Sin of Gluttony

@Masihi (4413)
Canada
September 13, 2012 11:22am CST
I will admit I've had dealt with eating disorders all my life (mainly compulsive overeating) and I've tried as hard as I can to keep aware of it and keep on top of the situation, and sticking with as healthy as food as I can afford, even food foraging in the wild, that sort of thing. But it's really, really hard, you know? Overeating and obesity with its accompanying health issues is so rampant here in North America, yet the church (and messianic synogogues, which is still Christian) is still staying silent on it. The only church that proactively promotes a health message is seventh day adventist church, and us Messianic Jews are not far behind, we abstain from pork and shellfish, and last night our rabbi preached on moderation of our food consumption at the torah service. But there's no real doctrine on the issue. No real admonition from the pulpit about taking care of our bodies (as the body is the temple of the Holy Spirit) and that include our food intake. My question to other Christians and the leadership in all of Christianity is that if gov'ts around the world are recognising overeating as an eating disorder and obesity as a health issue, even paying for gastric by-pass in severe cases then why is the Church still silent on the issue? Why not admonish from the pulpit as a doctrine for the sake of health. You're concerned about spiritual health but isn't physical health and unhealthy practises as important? Do you even realise that people overeat to cover pain and other issues? You rage again getting drunk and some church denominations prohibit alcohol altogether and cite addiction but don't you also realise that a lot of us struggle with food addiction? Just a thought to chew on....
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
13 Sep 12
I agree Masihi, and I am going to try and not be judgmental here, because I have my flaws, I mean show me a pastry with creamy filling or icing and I want to take it all for myself... But other than the typical church carry-ins, where if it is not Torah observant, you do have pork and shellfish, and many over eaters. I have seen people so obese at these gatherings, I can see the pain it takes one just to walk a couple feet, and I think, why are you living this way? I know there are medical issues, from gland disorders to medications, but do you know how many of these conditions can be solved by diet alone? and when I say "diet" I don't mean going on a diet, but changing their lifestyle on what and how much one eats.
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@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
13 Sep 12
Our rabbi admitted to addiction to different food and addiction to dr pepper and there's another rabbi whose teachings we listen to as a congregation one week night a week is 700lbs and his dr wants him to get down to 500lbs before he's eligible for gastric bypass surgery. So overeating and obesity is an issue in Torah observant circles as well. I am happy to say that our local rabbi is recognising the problem and is doing someothing about it.
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• United States
13 Sep 12
There is really only one Messianic congregation and the members were not too overweight and one I know of is a vegetarian, and yet she wasn't model thin. Another congregation I thought was okay, I left for another reason, but they ate pork, so I rarely ate their food...:P
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
1 Oct 12
Ihere are reasons for overeating and sometimes it is the matter of the soul. You think of the sins of the youth and sometimes people overeat to forget the pain and the consequences of their youthful indiscretions. Sometimes a person eats the wrong food because he or she loves food and worships it as an idol. In other words, eaten because the end all . Other times they eat to forget the pain of what happened. When you use the word obesity, you muddy the waters. You cannot say to the congregation you must eat this and must not eat that, because that makes it legalistic. What has to happen is to speak to the person's heart and gt him to recognize that he is using food to cover up a sin or a set of sins. For example, worry or that person harboured resentment against another and uses eating the wrong food to cover it up. Then there is allergies, and gluten intolerance, chemicals in food, trans fats and the empty feeling in the stomach that is not hunger but pain and grief. The reason that so many are fat is because they are using food to cover up an emptiness in their heart. Or they cannot afford the right kind of food -high utility bills, spending on bad things, etc. Or it is ignorance.
@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
7 Oct 12
I understand that we can't tell people to not eat so much and what to eat, and all that stuff but still, it can be an issue addressed from the pulpit. I know myself I overeat to hide my pain or drink too much tea but I also recognise it's a problem so I'm thinking what can I do to attack the underlying problem, and to be able to regard food in a healthy manner. If the Reverend, Priest or Rabbi can address deep underlying issues and is approachable, then people should be able to come forward to ask for healing, prayer, and even counseling sessions to help deal witht he hurt inside themselves, because if they're eating to cover up their pain, they're only inflicting more pain on their physical bodies, and have life-threatening diseases and conditions related to obesity.
@GardenGerty (169406)
• United States
13 Sep 12
This is one of the many contradictory things in our society and in our worship. The Bible does admonish that we are not to be gluttonous at "love feasts" and advises people to eat before they come. We hear an occasional sermon from these passages, but yet we are struggling. I do not see many in my local church who are obese,of the four I can think of two for sure have actual health issues that cause it. One woman has fought diabetes her whole life, I have watched her walk daily and regulate her food. She is now going to get stomach surgery, she is 67. They are finding that in a lot of people it cures diabetes. I knew her over thirty five years ago, and she has never been really thin. The next lady has more health related problems than you can shake a stick at and knows how to eat healthy and again, walks daily, but does not lose. The other two are brother and sister and although they have lost some, and their respective spouses and every one else in their family is thin, they are large even yet. I think the dichotomy here is that we need to eat to live, and we are also admonished to break bread together, and to feed the hungry and we just think about food all of the time. Potlucks or carry ins, which could serve as a vehicle to minister to those who are needy often turn out to be a showcase for our cooking skills and it seems that food has no calories once blessed in the sanctuary. Even the healthiest of foods can become deadly if taken in excess. On the other hand, many churches offer their facilities for programs like TOPS free of charge. They sponsor programs like 3D, which I believe is associated with the Baptist Church, and Weigh Down Workshop which is non denominational. There are aerobics classes and walking clubs that meet in the recreation areas of the church as well. To many, food is love, and the sweetness of candy and desserts is like manna to them. Or honey from the honey comb. It is important that we should both love and feed the people we encounter.
• Philippines
14 Sep 12
I used to have problems with overeating but I've outgrown it. People wouldn't believe me when I tell them that I used to overeat because of my slender physique.I've always been slim but I could finish at least 3-4 platefuls of rice.One of the reasons why I overeat was I desperately wanted to put on more weight but doctor's told me that I burn food easily because of my metabolism.
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@Masihi (4413)
• Canada
7 Oct 12
You're one of the lucky few with a high metabolism, then. I have a friend who has to eat a lot because if she doesn't she'll only lose weight, she focuses a lot on rice and pasta but she makes sure she eats very healthy. She's still quite thin, much thinner than the average canadian woman is but at least she's got the nutrition she needs. I, on the other hand have a super-slow metabolism, all I have to do is think of myself eating a chocoalte bat and I gain wieight :-p haha