Starters

@allknowing (130292)
India
September 23, 2012 4:45am CST
I wonder what the idea is in serving starters before the main course. I for one cannot eat anything after I have started on the starters. Starters are served when one is very hungry and we get tempted to consume a lot of it doing no justice to the food that follows. What is your view on this. Do you also have this system in your house when you have invited guests? Are you in favour of such a system. Every hotel here follows this norm.
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@sishy7 (27169)
• Australia
23 Sep 12
Is it supposed to be appetizers or different idea? I know some places offer appetizers while we are waiting for the main course being prepared. As the name suggests, whatever is offered as appetizer is supposed to increase your appetite for what follows after...
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@sishy7 (27169)
• Australia
23 Sep 12
To serve its purpose, I would not have more than a single small serve of whatever is there. Perhaps a small bowl of the cream soup would be enough; then I'll be waiting for the main course with anticipation... And still leave some room for dessert too.
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@allknowing (130292)
• India
23 Sep 12
At a time when you are famished and almost fainting then it is your stomach that will direct you! In many restaurants they take too long to serve the main menu. I sometimes wonder if they do it on purpose! Just a thought!
• India
24 Sep 12
Even I heard starters are supposed to be appetizers. You have various sorts of foods and stuff. Probably its the time you take to unwind yourself at the dining table. We do order starters when we are at a restaurant.
@dpk262006 (58675)
• Delhi, India
23 Sep 12
Hi ak! In Indian food context 'starter' could be confusing word. We Indian eat everything together and we in our homes do not go step by step e.g. Starters them main course and then desserts. We know that if we are being served lunch everything should be available on a platter and we could eat at one go. However, at eating joints or in big hotels there is concept of starters. I am not sure if this helps in flow of gastric juices (as one mylotter has mentioned) but small portions of a starter could either satiate our hunger (as in your case) or will ignite the fire for having the complete meal at once ..... Lol!
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@dpk262006 (58675)
• Delhi, India
24 Sep 12
Yes, you are right serving 'fried items' (like Pakoray etc.) in the beginning will destroy the fun of main course meal. Serving everything together is better. Thanks for sharing the experience.
@allknowing (130292)
• India
23 Sep 12
Even in homes this concept is existing. I too feel there should be no starters but food should be served at the right time. I remember an incident when we were just married we were celebrating some event and we were ordering home made food. That lady advised us that we should first serve an item or two of some fried stuff so that consumption of the main food will be less. Ofcourse we did not do that as we wanted our guests to eat well!
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@allknowing (130292)
• India
24 Sep 12
• United States
23 Sep 12
Hi, I don't really have nothing much to add to the other responses. I do think sometimes the restaurants do it so they can deal out smaller portions of the dinner that you're waiting for, lol! I like to eat my meal all at once. I do not eat my salad first which is common, I like it with my meal. Same with the appetizers. I might have one or even two if I'm absolutely starving, but prefer to wait for my whole meal. I am not a small eater, just a small person. People still wonder how I could eat so much and not gain a huge amount of weight. Although when I did quit smoking last May I did gain 8-10 pounds but that's nothing in comparison to what I've heard you normally gain. I guess I'll just have to wait and see if this eventually comes back off as its staying the same now. I think the restaurants have to offer these because it does take at least 15-20 minutes go get your dinner to the table. Now I'm hungry.
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• United States
24 Sep 12
You can do this! Have a drink, it does wonders for the soul, lol!
@allknowing (130292)
• India
23 Sep 12
But the kind of starters that they serve these days cannot be called appetizers. I would call them fillers. It is that time of the day when one is hungry and so there is a tendency to get busy with the starters until the main menu arrives. Could just juices do? Any suggestions?
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@allknowing (130292)
• India
24 Sep 12
"Time and tide wait for no man" I would add one more word there - 'hunger'. How can anyone resist those starters Kash when hunger takes over. If it is Al a karte then there is a choice but many times one goes for the buffet system and these starters are placed on the table as part of the package. Willpower seems the only solution. I will try it the next time but have little hope that I will succeed!
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
24 Sep 12
The hotels are doing it to make money. Like you, I can only eat so much, and if I fill up on the starters, I won't have room for the main course. Starters, or appetizers, are supposed to keep you busy and tide you over until the entree comes. I have known people who like to have a lot of variety and order different things as starters. Quite often the food goes to waste because they don't consume all of it.
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
24 Sep 12
I really hate to see food go to waste and I think this is a huge problem in the U.S. We have a saying "the eyes were bigger than the stomach." If you take it home and eat it later, it's fine. If it get's thrown in the trash it's just wasteful, and not because there are people who have no food, but because it's wasteful.
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@allknowing (130292)
• India
24 Sep 12
We have the doggy bag concept here where we can ask the hotel to pack it for us and I do it all the time. I have seen it happening in the US when I was on holiday there. The garbage bins next to restaurants are filled with wasted food and even in homes I have seen people buying even though they would have enough in their fridges already.
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@allknowing (130292)
• India
24 Sep 12
I am fully with you on this Canellita. I have seen food going waste just because guests have had their fill on starters. And hotels benefit from this!
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@alberello (4752)
• Italy
23 Sep 12
Well to be honest, I almost never go to eat at the restaurant, because, unfortunately, my financial resources not allow me. However, what you wrote, it is basically true. In fact, the few times that it happened to me just to eat at the restaurant, the first dish is served, even two or three times, it's just the appetizer. I do not know why do you use this tradition, I still say that if the starter is to my liking, it breaks some of the appetite. Obviously depends on how hungry I am in the situation. If I am really a starter to me like it, so be it.
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@allknowing (130292)
• India
23 Sep 12
Most people opt for the buffet arrangement and I suppose if one begins with starters they will consume less of the main food which might benefit the hotel. This is just a thought.
@deazil (4723)
• United States
23 Sep 12
I like to have something before my meal because the appetizers (starters) are always so good. But I can't eat too much of it because I won't be able to eat all of my meal. I don't eat a lot and get full easily. Usually if guests are coming early, an hour or two before dinner, yes I serve appetizers. What and how much I serve depends on how early they're coming over. I like the custom of having an appetizer. Mostly because they're really good, light types of food. And that's what I like to eat. Some appetizers in restaurants are just like a meal or would serve as a meal for me.
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@allknowing (130292)
• India
23 Sep 12
When one is hungry one tends to over do and go for these starters. That done there is hardly any space left for the main menu which indeed is a disappointment. Many a time what is served as starters could be a meal for small eaters, like myself! If it is in my house I would start with and just may be cashew nuts. That's it.
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• India
24 Sep 12
Starters are like a prologue to a novel. Many say it is actually an appetizer. But for me, i actually sets the tone for the meal. Especially when we are with friends for a dinner, we always begin with starters. its not that we believe in appetizers and stuff. But we always prefer to have some pep talks over a soup or a paneer tikka. When you are India, you do have a hell lot fo starters to chose form. And I sincerely dont believe all of them are appetizers. I think its just some convention they are following with no scientific backing.
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@allknowing (130292)
• India
24 Sep 12
Vow! A prologue! Well said! What is often emulated however loses its meaning in course of time and same is with the starters' concept. Here in India even the well managed 5 star restaurants load you with starters and the gap between starters and the main course, time wise, is very little and this results in killing one's appetite for the main course!But if it is a cocktail 'do' followed by dinner then starters are most welcome. Normally the cocktails session starts around 7 and dinner is served around 9.30
@owlwings (43915)
• Cambridge, England
23 Sep 12
The origin and value of a 'starter' or "hors d'oevre" is to get the gastric juices flowing and to allow guests to settle themselves at the table and to begin conversation so that they are all ready to eat when the main course arrives. In a hotel or restaurant environment, the starter is important because it allows customers to settle themselves, become accustomed to the environment and have something to occupy them while the chef prepares their main course (which, of course, in every good restaurant is freshly prepared for each order!) Starters are (or should be) something light, small and tasty and the quantities should be only as much as to whet the appetite. Conventional starters include: Soup; a prawn or smoked fish salad; asparagus, globe artichoke or other unusual and tasty vegetable; a small amount of pate with toast or melon, grapefruit or some other similar fruit. A starter should never be more than a morsel and should merely take the edge off hunger so that the real business of eating may be enjoyed at some leisure.
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• India
24 Sep 12
I would like to thank you for shaing this wonderful information with mylotters. i guess only a few knew about these things before. I heard about starters, but never knew the history behind them. I think starters should be consumed in a way so as to justify the term.
@allknowing (130292)
• India
24 Sep 12
Owlwings' posts are always well researched and it is a joy to read through these posts.
@allknowing (130292)
• India
23 Sep 12
When there is no limit on how much of the starters one can consume there is a tendency to over do as they are normally served when one is very hungry. I have already experienced this and somehow feel disappointed that by the time main food arrives I have no further appetitie excepting ofcourse the desert which I will not give up no matter what!
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@cher913 (25782)
• Canada
23 Sep 12
we typically don't serve starters and seldom order them when eating out. i find that if i eat a starter, then i have no room for the main course!
• United States
23 Sep 12
allknowing...the hotels know about it for sure..they just won't bring out a stick of celery for you to chew on because they're not going to make any money. They KNOW you're hungry, so you spend more money all the way around, first on the "fillers" and then on your "meal."
@allknowing (130292)
• India
24 Sep 12
@allknowing (130292)
• India
23 Sep 12
If the right kind of starters are served which would help whet one's appetite that would be welcome. But these days not many hotels know about it.
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@chrystalia (1208)
• Tucson, Arizona
24 Sep 12
Starters are usually served before the first course when you're making a full 4 or 7 course meal-- the kind that can last 2-3 hours from start to finish, and sometimes longer. I personally don't see the point, unless I am having a party that will last a long time-- according to the other half, when we used to do our holiday open houses, our employees would stop by and come and go all day, we had an open buffet with the real food and lots of snacks and starters around as well for those that were going to multiple holiday dinners. Over here, people often start parties 2 hours or more before dinner to give people time to get to know one another and socialize and nibble on things while they drink, since you don't get drunk as quickly if you have food in your stomach. Since I don't drink, it doesn't matter to me. A lot of restaurants here have the appetizer thing, but you don't have to order them, it's a choice. Some restaurants provide free rolls or in the case of Mexican food free chips and salsa to snack on while you wait for the food-- I generally don't order appetizers because they fill me up and the meals are more than enough anyway. I don't think it should be automatic in restaurants and hotels, or on cruise ships, but I think it should be an order option for people who want it. At private parties, I just keep bowls of snack food around for people who feel like they have to munch on something.
• Tucson, Arizona
24 Sep 12
I know what you mean-- I have noticed that people just really don't like to leave behind paid for food. It is amazing sometimes-- when we have our Christmas open house, we always end up with tons of half eaten food that has to be thrown away, as well as the leftovers. But I have watched people go nuts and stuff themselves to the point of having to unfasten their belts in restaurants to eat every bite because they are paying for it. Since you also pay for the food you eat at home, what is the difference? I also have friends that always get "doggie bags" to bring home uneaten restaurant food (which I also do)-- but then it just sits in their frige until it goes bad and gets thrown out anyway. It amazes me how few people I know eat leftovers-- I also have one friend who can't eat the same meal 2 days in a row. I eat what I have-- I am not a food centered person anyway, I eat because my body needs calories, not for enjoyment, but some food habits are just strange.
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@allknowing (130292)
• India
24 Sep 12
At a party one needs to follow this pattern as there is activity. I do the same and normally there are drinks served too. But I was talking of just a meal one plans to have. If it is Al a karte the question does not arise. This is mostly when one opts for a buffet arrangement where starters are placed on the table which are already paid for. And what is paid for needs to be consumed. Right? No doubt there will be less food consumed thereafter.
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@allknowing (130292)
• India
24 Sep 12
Here the left overs are well packed which could be directly stored in the deep freeze. This food could be used after a few days. I steam such food and it turns out as good as new.This applies to home cooked food as well. Somehow I do not believe in a microwave. Over the years I have become wiser when it comes to cooking for parties and stuff. I have made mistakes several of them having cooked way too much and wasting it.
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@salonga (27775)
• Philippines
24 Sep 12
Starters or appetizers are served to give the guests something to nibble while waiting for the the main course. I think these starters should be just some light food that will trigger the appetite but won't really fill. But I notice some restaurants serving bread and various kind of spread as starters. Anyone who consume a lot of these will definitely get filled. When served with filling starters, the best way is to avoid too much eating. That would be to your advantage otherwise you will end up a loser.
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@allknowing (130292)
• India
24 Sep 12
The concept of starters has lost its meaning. They should be selective in that if the food comes on the table within minutes of your arrival then very light starters should be served. At parties this rule could be ignored. The trouble is when one sees something on the table one tends to not just nibble but actually consume what with hunger pangs that demand that you eat and not just nibble!
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@jazel_juan (15747)
• Philippines
24 Sep 12
We really do not eat that way here.. well for most of us here but i have seen people doing that in cooking shows and in television.. and i learned from watching that starters are there to wake up the taste buds for more food and often times starters are just light ones..and very little in size.
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@allknowing (130292)
• India
24 Sep 12
As is the case with so many 'starters' starters too have lost their originality in that what used to be just a cup of soup served as a starter now you find loads of snacks and within minutes the main course arrives. Surely those who have experienced this should realise that a change is called for!
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
23 Sep 12
Yes...it is customary here to have starters or "appetizers." If I eat appetizers, I will more than likely not eat as much or enjoy the main course as much as I would. I don't really serve appetizers at my house but if I were doing a party I guess I would. Just because it is the norm though.
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@allknowing (130292)
• India
24 Sep 12
It is only when there is a big gap between starters and the main course that I feel it is worth having them. This happens at parties where the event starts well before dinner time. With games, dancing and what have you starters are most welcome with some drinks thrown in too for good measure!
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• Philippines
24 Sep 12
I agree on that and it is also the system in our house.Serving starters dishes before the main course makes the guests more excited.Having also starters is a kind of strategy to other hotels.For me,starter dishes is most likely the decision dish.Because,if the guests or costumers likes the starter dishes they feel more excited to eat the main course.
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@allknowing (130292)
• India
24 Sep 12
In my case it has the opposite effect in that I lose my appetite for the main course! But if I am having a party then there will be starters thrown around tables while the party is going on where activity takes care of the starters' digestion and justice would be done for the food that follows!
@shaggin (71678)
• United States
24 Sep 12
I think that the appetizers are basically just to tide you over until your meal comes. By the time I eat the appetizers then I am to full to even each much of my dinner so when I go to a resturant I usually just order the appetizer and eat that as my meal. I've never been to someones house that does courses like that.
@allknowing (130292)
• India
24 Sep 12
That is not a bad idea at all. Some have small appetites like yourself who are content with small portions of food like the starters. Actually it is a waste if someone with a small appetite opts for a buffet lunch or dinner as no justice is done to the amount of food that one can eat and money too is wasted.
@ladym33 (10979)
• United States
26 Sep 12
I don't mind too much at restaurants because that usually means that I get to bring half of my meal home because I usually can not finish it and that means a yummy lunch the next day. Usually when we have guests over there is a big party going on. I just put all the food out at once. I do put a couple of snack items out first in case someone is starving while I get the rest of the food out.
@allknowing (130292)
• India
27 Sep 12
Bringing home left overs is indeed a good idea.But that cannot be done, if it is a buffet. The starters need to be such that they do not kill one's appetite for the main course. Although starters are meant to be appetisers they hardly play that role!
@lynnes75 (443)
• Malaysia
3 Oct 12
If you mean appetizers, then the name itself explains it. It's to whet your appetite for the main course. The restaurants and hotels I've been to all have starters/appetizers, but not in huge amount. There's the usual small bowl or two of nuts or chips you munch on while waiting for the real food. And when you finish the starters, they don't give you more. It's fine with me, makes me anticipate the food more :)
@allknowing (130292)
• India
4 Oct 12
Starters are expected to work as appetizers but they don't in most cases. Even in 5 star hotels sometimes they serve some fried stuff as starters which in fact kills one's appetite. If there is a big gap between starters and the main course this may not hamper one's appetite. This gap is noticed when drinks are served but not otherwise.