disgrace of the family

Philippines
September 29, 2012 3:10am CST
I've watched and read much news lately- murder, stealing and other crimes. The world is getting crazier as days pass by. Yesterday, there was a chef guy who boiled his wife's corpse, the lady who admitted killing her five babies..killers every where, every day. Now it made me think, how do the families of these criminals feel? How do each family member live a peaceful life knowing his/her son, sibling or relative brought great shame to their family? Do people judge the son thru his father's dark past? Would people doubt your honesty if your sister/brother was engaged in stealing? It's so sad to think that innocent members of the family will suffer the shame brought by one prodigal daughter/son. We can hate them but we can't deny them from being our family.
10 responses
@SinfulRose (3527)
• Davao, Philippines
29 Sep 12
I can honestly say I don't blame them. In this society they live in, where stress and pressure is the norm, I won't be surprised to seeing my neighbors kill each other. We're living in an insane world whose normal actions/habits are that of a crazy person. You barely get enough rest, yet you need to wake up early--to work your butt off and come home late feeling like you're making a dying instead of a living and despite how many jobs you take, it seems that no money is enough to pay off your expenses and debts and bills. I mean, hello! Ain't that crazy? Working a lot, resting little. You feel more stressed in work and you can't enjoy the luxuries you can buy with your money. Where's the sense in that, seriously?
• Davao, Philippines
29 Sep 12
I'm willing to bet that you won't be able to say that once you lost your mind. Stress can make you do many destructive things--including temper. I don't say that it's enough excuse to justify their actions. Only that we are still responsible why people like this turn up near us time and again. Try to be sensitive to your surroundings. Listen to each people's problems, they may sound the same but each problem has a different impact on each one. And each person has some way of coping up stress. For those who can't cope up with their own problems, they sometimes turn killers and murderers--most of the time, they just kill themselves and not one of their family members knew the reason why. Try studying a little background of psychology and you'll see what I mean. Reading a little about these kind of people will really open your eyes as to what they've been through. Instead of judging right away that they are a disgrace to their own family, try and understand their side first.
• Davao, Philippines
1 Oct 12
Indeed, as long as we are living, we will always have problems. And that we also get to choose, which among those problems we make our own problem. But you can also choose to just let the problem run after you. "It is not the fault of other people if we choose to be drowned by our own darkness inside." I agree, they are responsible for the consequences of their decisions and actions , but we are still responsible for them to a certain extent. (Look into Morals for this) He/she maybe a total stranger but if one would look at the world as a very big picture, one's actions somewhat affects other aspects of the world such as the life of another total stranger. (This is true in Economics and the Ecosystem--Biology.) A person going crazy or had gone berserk may also not be his own decision. So can you say that going crazy is his will thus his fault? I do not mean to impart to you that those labelled as criminals are the ONLY victims of the society and the other thing you added in the end. But you've got to admit, you must be thankful that you are in better place than they; well off than they--mentally,psychologically and possibly physically--not knowing what they've been through; what decisions they have to make; what thoughts they've been burdened with. Let's just say, putting yourself on their shoes; Can you be certain that you can do the right thing? Or choose the decision they took? I know if I answer that I'll say, "I don't know". If we people are judging these criminals (right away)...etc. I do not mean that. Here, let me clarify: Because word goes out that the person is a criminal because he did something--people already judge the person as a whole to be bad or evil right away (excluding the judge and the jury). I do not mean, the current society extracting vengeance right away. Nor the absence of the judgement of the court and its corresponding punishment. Geez. Seriously, everybody knows that there is always a trial for people unless if you're living in a different society that doesn't have their "common" justice system.
• Philippines
29 Sep 12
There might be reasons why they commit crimes but "ends don't justify the means". Having a miserable life is not an excuse to commit crimes and harm other people. We are civilized people, we are rational beings. We have the capacity to think, and so to do the right thing despite how cruel life may seem. It's not always getting what we want "whatever it takes". This is the life in the temporary world. We struggle, we act responsibly, we have the freedom to be happy without harming other people. Thanks for your response Rose.
@Paper_Doll (2373)
• Philippines
29 Sep 12
They say that you can choose your friends, but you can not choose your family. Whatever they do, you seem to be connected with it even though you are not. It is natural for people to protect themselves. Many times, they would protect themselves not only to those ones who committed the crimes but to their families as well. They maybe thinking that there are possibilities that another member of this family would do the same. They think that this is some kind of thing that can be inherited although in my opinion, this can be very unfair to them. An individual can decide solely for himself. If he wants to do bad instead of good, it is really up to him. His family may not support him for doing wrong things but in the end, it is up to the man if he would listen or not. But when everything turns wrong, it is not only the man that would be in shame but as well as his family. I believe that our family has a great impact in our behavior and our personality as a whole. But the moment we walks out of our house, there are so many factors that can affect our personality some of which are our friends, our environment, our school, and our experiences that our parents do not know. In fact, I know some who would try to hide their activities from their parents because they know themselves that what they are doing are wrong and that their parents won't approve to it. So it is just really sad that when things get bad, they are the first persons to be greatly affected. This is why we hear that some families whose a member committed a serious crime do change their names to protect themselves. These kind of requests are being granted as they deserve to live a peaceful life and have their privacy despite their family member has done.
• Philippines
29 Sep 12
That is so true paper doll. You can never choose your family. Each act according to his own choice/free will but the consequence strikes everyone close to him/her. I feel esp. for the parents of these crazy people. Though we don't have the right to condemn them, it is but normal to hate them and their actions. Many factors do influence our decisions, and most are not because of genes. The thought of having a criminal in a family is very disturbing..as bad memories can't be forgotten that easily. It's like an disease without cure inside people's minds. Thanks for your thoughts:)
• Philippines
1 Oct 12
You're welcome :D
@nivorn (33)
• Philippines
30 Sep 12
Well, in the case of the husband who boiled his wife, if he had kids, i'm pretty sure that the people in their community wouldn't judge his kids for what he has done. I mean that would be absurd! However, my concern is on the kids. I'm pretty sure knowing that their mother was murdered by their father would be traumatic alone. On top of that, he killed her in the most brutal and gruesome way imaginable. So I pity his kids. Now on the topic of shame, it is indeed embarrassing for a family to have a member of their family engage in shameful actions. However, family is still family. You can choose your friends, you can choose your wife, you can choose your boyfriend/girlfriend, and you can even choose your dog but you can never choose your family. So the best thing to do there is find acceptance and forgiveness for yourself and for the erring family member. There's nothing really more to be done. And even though they've erred, it doesn't mean you no longer love them or support them. They might have made a mistake through a lapse of judgment but it will be your call whether to still accept them as family or shoo them away disgracefully. But whatever you do, it will never change the fact that family will always be family.
• Philippines
4 Oct 12
Blood is always thicker than water. No matter how wrong they may be, they will still be our family. Despite the pain they've caused us, we can't just turn them down and leave them. No matter how far we are from them, we can still feel them and their need of your acceptance and forgiveness.
@Austina (92)
• Philippines
2 Oct 12
Crimes among family members is really alarming. Its a disgrace of the family. But come to think of it. Why do we have like them? Maybe the family members also have faults. We never know whom to blame. As a family, they should work on their relationship. Life is beautiful if we live peacefully inside our homes.
@Jatelo2 (166)
• Nairobi, Kenya
29 Sep 12
I think that when does a crime, he doesn't do it for the befit of the family, mostly! I feel that it is very unfair to bring all these criminal activities to the family name! Everyone should be judged according to their own deeds!
• Philippines
4 Oct 12
That's correct. Yet people can't help but be judgmental. Such that one should think of the consequence of their actions before doing them 'coz it's still the family that suffers most.
@Jatelo2 (166)
• Nairobi, Kenya
29 Sep 12
Most peoeple are experts in blanket condemation. They wont have any problem calling you with an ugly prefix. The Bother of a thief!
• Philippines
4 Oct 12
Indeed. It's just too easy to condemn other people of their wrong act, like we haven't done any wrong in our entire lives :(
@GardenGerty (157665)
• United States
29 Sep 12
This is true. My son has had some trouble, legally and did something wrong. He is suffering the consequences for it, but not only that, the restrictions on his life right now affect all of us, and he says that it is true, the whole family is punished for what he did wrong. I do not think he will ever do it again.
• Philippines
3 Oct 12
No matter what they have done, we will always accept them and comfort them. No matter how it hurts us, we will always find ways to help them get through and most important of all, let them realize their wrong doings. I'm sure your son has learned his lesson, he won't disappoint you again:)
@prashu228 (37525)
• India
29 Sep 12
yes the crime rate increased ,drastically. yes ,we feel bad ,if any of our family member is a criminal, but we cant stop loving them, no cant live with peace either.
• Philippines
3 Oct 12
True. We can't lose our love and care for them no matter what they've done.
@subhojit10 (7375)
• India
29 Sep 12
Well yes, everyday u get and read a newspaper and there u can see the same old news of murder, stealing or such crimes. It is very disturbing to see how human beings are loosing out their mind and killing other people with such ease without even giving a single thought to the consequences. Yes of course, they are not only bringing bad name to the family for for the entire human community. The family members especially the parents must be feeling extremely shameful of this. What say?
• Philippines
29 Sep 12
You're right. It is always easy for them to do such shame without thinking the effect of their actions. But still their parents can't do a thing but accept them.
• India
29 Sep 12
Hi friend, sad to hear about the news shared by you, it is really hard to live with this kind of family members, as we have fear about them at every moment. Better to keep distance from them and live separately from them to avoid unwanted issues
• Philippines
1 Oct 12
yes they put fear in us, but we can't just reject and disown them 'coz they're still our family.