The Butler did it
By winterose
@winterose (39887)
Canada
October 2, 2012 10:23pm CST
This news story from the Vatican gives a new meaning to the the term the butler did it.
Leaks of corruption and payoffs concerning the Vatican got to the news and apparently a book has been written about it. Although the Pope was not named as part of the corruption, his administration was.
Of Course they had to find out who was the one responsible for the leaks and it was the butler.
The butler denies the acussations but says he has betrayed his best friend the Pople.
Now he will go to court and if found guilty he will get 4 years in prison on italian law.
However the Pope can pardon him if he wants to and he will not have to serve jail time.
What are your thoughts?
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9 responses
@celticeagle (189915)
• Boise, Idaho
4 Oct 12
I remember hearing something about this and then nothing more. Probably cause it hadn't been to court yet. So he denies the accusation but say he has betrayed his best friend, the pope. So how does that work? I will be curious to hear what comes of all this.
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
5 Oct 12
Yeah I would like to know how that works too.
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@mysdianait (66005)
• Italy
5 Oct 12
The trial is taking place right now and the sentence is expected tomorrow.
I have left 2 links in a comment above.
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@celticeagle (189915)
• Boise, Idaho
5 Oct 12
Some people are just amazing in the way they think and what they do.
@yoyo1198 (3641)
• United States
3 Oct 12
The Vatican is the smallest state in the world. Its inner workings have been kept secret for literally ages. So, people are going to be interested in the book about it. I wonder if it is selling well?
As far as the case about the butler, is that being tried in secret as well? I know there's the news about it but I haven't seen anything about the trial.
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
5 Oct 12
Well they haven't had the trial yet and I don't know if we will here because it will be the Italian court that decides.
@mysdianait (66005)
• Italy
5 Oct 12
The trial is taking place now (this week) and the sentence is expected tomorrow, Saturday.
The 2 links will update you:
http://ansa.it/web/notizie/rubriche/english/2012/10/02/Pope-butler-pleads-innocent-pontiff-manipulated_7567024.html
http://ansa.it/web/notizie/rubriche/english/2012/10/03/Vatican-denies-butler-mistreated_7569357.html
@mysdianait (66005)
• Italy
6 Oct 12
It is now Saturday over here and the sentence is: guilty
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19850385
@mysdianait (66005)
• Italy
6 Oct 12
As I said in my previous comments, the trial took place this week and the sentence arrived today.
Guilty and jail for 18 months.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19850385
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@mysdianait (66005)
• Italy
22 Dec 12
Now he will no longer have to serve his sentence:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20824814
@lampar (7584)
• United States
7 Oct 12
The latest news is that the butler had pleaded guilty on the charges, but he added that he did that out of his love for Vatican and the pope. He want to see that corruption and payoff get rule out from Vatican during his life time even it means he is going to jail for the leaks. The next move is for the Pope to grant him pardon, then he will be able to live as a free man again. It is no doubt Pope does weild much power inside Italy to set him free. All bets are on Pope right now. 
@winterose (39887)
• Canada
8 Oct 12
I read that as the Pope he has the authority to grant him a pardon, because even though he was tried in Italy, it is a vatican matter. The vatican does not have a court system.
@mysdianait (66005)
• Italy
8 Oct 12
The Pope has no 'power' in Italy but he is indeed head of his own state, the Vatican.
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@lampar (7584)
• United States
8 Oct 12
@ ..dianait; May be 'power' is not the right word in this case, he does has the authority of a state to pardon him and prevent him from going to jail after the sentencing is handed down by Italian's civil court. I assume he is more like a Governor rather than a President in certain way.
@purplealabaster (22085)
• United States
3 Oct 12
I am not entirely sure what to say about this. If you are hired in a place that upholds secrecy, then obviously you should respect and honor that and not leak the secrets. On the other hand, when those secrets are harmful, especially if they are about people hurting innocents, then I think those secrets need to be made public, even if you might have to face some sort of punishment, although I think that jail time is quite extreme.
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@goldenteardrops (747)
• United States
3 Oct 12
my thoughts , if someone does the crime , he does the time, no matter how rich or how poor. if the crime is for the good then it should be discussed in court, if not for the good then treat as all as equal..
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
5 Oct 12
It will be interesting to see if he is held responsible or not.
@danishcanadian (28954)
• Canada
3 Oct 12
My question is this.
Why doesn't the Pope tae a vow of POVERTY like all the other Nuns, and Priests, and Monks? Come on!!! I don't think religion should be about wealth, or royalty, or sitting in riches. I'd have a lot more respect for him if he didn't have such a wealthy lifestyle.
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@allknowing (153529)
• India
3 Oct 12
Vatican has been the place for money laundering since time immemorial. What is there to leak since it is an open secret. Why all this hue and cry now?
I have lost respect for all religions which are commercialised. Just the other day there was an announcement made here where I live, that if donations of over (whatever figure) was made then the Bishop will garland that donor. Ugh.. I say!!
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@winterose (39887)
• Canada
5 Oct 12
I really don't know but it would be interesting to read the book.
@winterose (39887)
• Canada
5 Oct 12
I don't know if he does or not but like you I hope he has no part of it.
