I am sorry that you get upset, but it can't stay there forever.
By SomeCowgirl
@SomeCowgirl (32189)
United States
December 11, 2012 6:26pm CST
I'm trying to organize things, clean them up and make my space look nice and become mine. A lot of people know that my room was once my brother's but he's passed on. I live with my grandparents, a lot of people should know that as well.
Well, I'm trying to clean things up, make them nice. I've been recycling / throwing away some of my brother's magazines. I miss my brother, I love my brother, but he doesn't need those magazines in Heaven. He doesn't need any of his stuff in heaven.
It's been years and she (my grandmother) has to learn to let go. I opened up the closet, took out a few of the plastic crates that were my brothers, that she wanted to keep. She needs them, she says. Well she gets upset that I doing that, tells me to get a box or two down that she wanted to look through years ago when he passed.
Well it isn't there, I must've moved it. She gets upset at me, gets a little emotional and has to leave the room. I love my brother, I miss my brother as I said above. It hurt me when I first started to get rid of his stuff, his magazines, but it can't stay there forever.
I am thinking of a lot of things, about how the house is a mess, how my grandparents aren't getting any younger. The older they get, the harder it is for them to get around. The house is a mess, it's not good for any of us, or anybody who comes to visit. Which isn't many people.
I can't even invite friends over because of the condition of the house, not that I would anyway.
I guess I needed to vent this because I understand where my grandmother is coming from on her opinions, but I also know that life has to go on. It's not fair to any of us to have the house a mess, and part of that is because a lot of stuff was mine, was inherited when my mom died, was brought when I came back to live here.
I don't know what I have anymore, I need to know.
I'd rent a storage building if I could trust the stuff to be okay in it, or if I could afford it. I can't afford it, even a temperature controlled storage building can not help things stay preserved.
I'll continue to clean a little bit at a time, I'll continue to do what I can...
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
12 Dec 12
I am the same as your grandma I cant get rid of my hubbies things He still has a side of the closet not in my way at all other things that he did wear I have givien to someone that the stuff would fit.
Hubby didnt have much mostly work clothes that he could wear even after he retired I did have to buy him new stuff when he lost weight. he has been gone now for 8 years dont seeem like it tho
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
12 Dec 12
Is this a house or an apartment for We have 2 sheds full of stuff and we really need to go thru them to find what we havent saw for a year since we moved here.
DOnt know how to tell you to get stuff out of hier way maybe stress if hey fall you can take care of them so they need to get rid of things
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@SomeCowgirl (32189)
• United States
12 Dec 12
I can understand completely keeping things that were another's to remember them by, I can understand it being hard to let go. It's been years since my brother has passed, and she did get rid of some, but not nearly enough things. She gave some things to family who would use it, but there are a lot of things that no one will use that she didn't get rid of. These things are magazines, yes part of who he was, but not something necessarily needed to remember him by.
These things are so much that, and there are other things that were my mom's that are so much... It's literally a mess here, and a danger for as they grow older (my grandparents) they are more likely to fall and with things right there to catch them? No, these things will get in the way.
@SomeCowgirl (32189)
• United States
13 Dec 12
It is a 5 bedroom three bath house. Built in the 70's so rooms are moderate in size but sufficient. The fifth bed and bath was an addition built in the 90's. We have three buildings. One is a metal building, the other attached to the house and the third is my grandfather's alone.
My grandmother has already fallen several times, but this was also partially due to misuse of medication that caused her to be very groggy and off balance combined with too much sleep as is. She can take a sleeping pill and be wide awake. We've of course since remedied her overdosing by pretty much saying no you aren't taking care of your own medication.
She is very cognitive so this was not because of a memory loss, she was doing this on purpose as she has done for many many years.

@celticeagle (190011)
• Boise, Idaho
12 Dec 12
The condition of your grandparent's house is very sad. It could be a very real health hazard too. I am sure know about mold and such that can make a person very sick. Have you ever watched Hoarders? It usually comes down to the hoarder feeling they have lost any power over their lives and keep things(everything) to make up for this fact. I think it would be very healthy for your grandmother to get rid of alot of the 'stuff' that is making her home so cluttered. But it would also be very hard for her. Doing what you can and alittle at a time is great but I doubt you will really see much change until your grandmother gets some help.
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@SomeCowgirl (32189)
• United States
12 Dec 12
My grandmother hasn't taken very good care of herself, and honestly partially it is because she was always taking care of others. She really stopped taking care of herself and laying around sleeping all day back when her mother passed away. That has been many years. She went to the doctors, got put on antidepressants but has not really been the same since. She used to keep the house clean, along with my brother. My brother took on a heavy burden of taking care of the house, and he often just threw things away or under the house because he knew no one else would. It isn't just my grandmother though but also my grandfather.
I do understand the need or want to keep things the way they were. That's partially my grandmother's mentality and I know that it is a hoarder's mentality. I can't say I am not also a hoarder, but the worse of them all is my grandfather. He keeps everything.
They both grew up during a hard time and with hard / tough parents. So way they've learned they stick to, and there is really nothing wrong with it.
I just have to do what I can to get rid of things. My grandmother says things like "He may come back to haunt you." I always say that my brother would want to see the house clean, that my brother would want to see his things being used. If things aren't being used it becomes a mess.
I am the only one who will / can do it. My grandmother either can't because of her health, or because of her emotions. It all depends on what it is we are talking about getting rid of or re-purposing.
My brother had a lot of plastic crates that he put his magazines and movies into. I am moving the movies into another room and getting rid of his magazines. My grandmother wishes I wouldn't move the totes but I'm not doing my mother's stuff any good being in boxes when they should be displayed.
So many lifetimes of things are in this house. So many things once though to be useful and kept are no longer used, no longer needed.
I'm working on it, and working through it. It's not easy for me though because I do not like to clean. I just have what the room will look like once I'm done in my head, and I know I can get it to that point.
If I can get my things organized it will open up the house a bit more, things will be sorted through.
Sorry I know this is long-winded.
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@SomeCowgirl (32189)
• United States
12 Dec 12
Oh yes he is, I suppose I don't have as much gripe with him as I do with my grandmother. My grandfather is the type of man that demands respect and doesn't really care if you live him or not, or so he puts on. I think deep down he wants you to love him but he's not one to really show affection.
Like for instance when I cook, the only real way I know that he likes it is if he keeps going back for seconds, he won't tell me that he liked it. However, I hear from my grandmother that he praises my cooking.
My grandmother has been on anti-depressants for a long time and I believe they've upped them several times. She also takes sleeping pills. Sometimes are better then others, but some are very bad.
All I can do is what needs to be done even if it is hard on her. Eventually she will see how everything looks much better and she'll realize it was needed to be done. I do not know if perhaps other family members will then finally start to visit or not, but one thing is that the only person we ever see over here anymore is my sister and her kids. My brother in law doesn't even like to be here.
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@celticeagle (190011)
• Boise, Idaho
12 Dec 12
Have you ever watched any of the Hoarder episodes?. What you describe sounds like some of the people on the show. And she does sound depressed. The antidepressant may not be right for her or enough to really help. The doctors usually start a patient with the lowest amount and it may be that she needs it upped a bit.
These 'things' that you speak are just that-- things. It sounds like there alot of things that can be done away with. I think it would be better to do that and have a cleaner living environment. Everyone would feel better.
It sounds like you have a rather healthy way of looking at the entire situation and i applaude you. Slow and definite wins the race.
You never speak of your grandfather. Is he still living?
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@KrauseHome (36445)
• United States
16 Dec 12
Yes it is hard to be able to move on with your life looking at all these things and constantly being reminded of your brother or your mom who has passed on. And since your grandparents are getting older it is important to get these things done as well. All I can say is it sounds like you have your work cut out in front of you. Have you considered having someone come in and help you?
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@SomeCowgirl (32189)
• United States
17 Dec 12
Family would not help me and for some, no offense to them, I couldn't trust them not to take something home that is mine now.
Friends would help but I am not sure that my grandmother would really want that. I do have a lot cut out for me, but I am coming along way already. I need to just recycle all the magazines and that will have opened up the room a great deal. Step two will be to find a nice curio cabinet or hutch to display things.
The hutch may work better as though they can be much heavier, they have storage capabilities underneath.
My grandmother wants to sell some of her dolls but perhaps if I can clean up enough in another room for them to be displayed properly again she will re-consider. If not I may assist her in selling them as my grandfather hasn't yet.
@marsha32 (6631)
• United States
12 Dec 12
I've not had to be in this situation.
I can only imagine it is very hard to part with stuff of a loved one that's passed away.....especially one that was taken away way too early.
I can' understand your need of making room for you.
Marsha
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@SomeCowgirl (32189)
• United States
12 Dec 12
I think with my grandmother it is she feels that with some of his things gone, his memory will be gone with it. My family members have some of his stuff, I'm giving an old poster to my nephew, the poster was my brother's.
I am working through everything. I think once she really realizes that I am not getting rid of his memory, I never can, that she will feel better. It's the fact things are being moved around...
@wilsongoddard (7291)
• United States
12 Dec 12
You just have to keep pressing on. Yes, it is difficult for your grandmother; however, a house that is that much of a mess is, as you know, unhealthy for all of you.
It is driving me crazy that things are still messy after having moved in here several weeks ago. However, there are some things with which I really need my boyfriend's help, and he has been so overwhelmed with other things that I have been left to work around some things until his schedule gets less crowded in another few days or so.
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@SomeCowgirl (32189)
• United States
13 Dec 12
Slow and steady wins the race. Working on the little things means that when he can assist with the bigger things, there will be much less left after and your space will have opened up more.
Oh we have organizing genes in this family, but it's so hard now to clean anything.
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
13 Dec 12
It's hard to let go of things when they represent good times or important moments in our lives. I think you are doing the right thing. It's not the stuff that holds their memory..it's the person. Pictures..well..that's different. I think that those are priceless, but all the other stuff, well, it just becomes stuff after a while. Maybe if there are some pictures, you could tell you grandmother they can be displayed for everyone easier if that stuff was gone. That it is there that all the memories can be held. May not work but it is a thought.
@SomeCowgirl (32189)
• United States
13 Dec 12
I think she is coming around to it a little bit, but with her there is no telling. She may be quiet on it but it doesn't mean she's completely okay with it either. I just hope it doesn't become a big blow up.
I am only getting rid of magazines, nothing else. Pictures are staying, even nuts, bolts, little wheels to model cars, they are all staying.
We will see as time goes by, I am feeling good about the change. The house already feels a little more open, but I think that's because of the little progress I am doing and how it's making me feel.
I am thinking of myself, yes, but I am also thinking of my grandparents, I am thinking of my niece and nephew whom have not seen a clean house (this house) in years if ever.
My nephew, maybe, but he was also too young to really appreciate it.





