Have you ever tried giving advice and yet it wasn't appreciated?

@Aja103654 (5646)
Philippines
December 12, 2012 11:53pm CST
Recently around mylot, I tried giving a good advice to someone. I really hated it because I tried hard to understand the grammar of that person and tried to help the best way I can so I can help with the problem. But in the end, this person just seemed to have assumed I am a better person and that I must have gone through many failures to have given my advice that way. (either that or I am just tad too sensitive, or maybe the bad grammar pissed me off because I can't totally understand.) I feel so mad about this. Don't you guys hate it when that happens? I rarely feel angry against other members here, but this time, I feel so insulted. I feel that person is so immature and not careful with words. Plus, the grammar is terrible. I just hope that had something to do with it and that person is not really able to express their intended message properly. Cause if that person meant those words like the way I understand them, then I don't want anything to do with that person anymore. One positive thing about this situation: my anger helps me write more and earn more here... ahhh.. that feels so much better.
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@Otanetix (508)
• United States
13 Dec 12
No, I do not mind if my advice was not appreciated. For me, I don't expect too much from the person that I gave some advice. When I write on myLot, I do like earning more for my posts, but I don't feel bad if my posts were not appreciated. If they appreciate and consider using my advice, then that's fine. If they do not, then that is also fine. On myLot, users are allowed to express themselves as long as they are not being inappropriate towards other members. Usage of "bad grammar" also does not irritate me. In addition, not all members have the same grasp of the English language. I actually enjoy seeing that a lot of these discussions are from people of various countries. Since there's so many people from different areas of the world posting on myLot, I get to learn more about what other people are thinking about. Generally, I give my advice out to voice my opinion. If the people do not like my advice, they are free to feel that way. To all myLot members, please keep posting your thoughts.
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@Aja103654 (5646)
• Philippines
14 Dec 12
I didn't really expect that person to follow my advice. I just wanted to express my idea about the matter. I don't particularly hate bad grammar because it's bad. I can understand that some people have difficulty with it. I just didn't like that because of bad grammar we developed a misunderstanding. So we were not able to communicate better.
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• Philippines
13 Dec 12
i agree. we don't construct sentences in the same way, we don't even use the same words. i think how we were taught, our native language and culture are all factored into it. it's possible that there was an unintentional disconnect between the words used and the meaning intended. sometimes, your advice might not be appreciated by the person who asked for it, but they helped the others who came across it. i know that there are many discussions here that i read and learned a lot from without participating.
@sishy7 (27169)
• Australia
13 Dec 12
I've been misunderstood here; fortunately, not to the point where I feel insulted. And as I read through some topics here, I'd find exchanges where clearly one's comment or response could be interpreted the wrong way by the receiver simply because of wrong choice of words or lack of English skills. There were times I'd offer some explanations when I see such situations; mostly would be well received, but yes, few of my advice were taken the wrong way also.
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@Aja103654 (5646)
• Philippines
14 Dec 12
It's also good that there are members who would help out when a misunderstanding is happening. One good English skills should be able to do it. But even someone with good English skills sometimes make mistakes.
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@choybel (5042)
• Philippines
13 Dec 12
Definitely not what we want but that's the facts of life. There will be times when we will be ignored or unappreciated despite our efforts to help, while there would be times we would even receive negative feedback or reactions for it, but I guess what is important is that we offered help. How they respond to it will be their problem. Don't feel too bad about it, especially here in myLot. Back in the days here, I used to see many discussions that have many negative reaction from responders, it's actually a bit rare here now. You'll get used to it, but I truly hope that it will not change the goodness in you. Keep on sharing and keep on trying to help, that's what is important right?
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@choybel (5042)
• Philippines
14 Dec 12
Sometimes, things can really go rough here and it can go to that level. Anyway, like I said, eventually you'll get used to it and maybe even learn things from it so you shouldn't really let that keep you down. I hope you are still having as much fun as a lot of us here do.
@Aja103654 (5646)
• Philippines
14 Dec 12
Hehe, thank you choy! I don't think I'm good, really I think I am bad. However, I enjoy giving advice and sharing what I learn. That must be why I love mylot so much because I earn from doing that. yeah, it's their problem right? I don't really mind them any more. I would have been fine if that person just ignored my answer and carried on, but that person said something personal about me that is not even accurate. Kinda pisses me off.
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@Aja103654 (5646)
• Philippines
15 Dec 12
LOL, those kind of things won't ever let me leave the site. There are more people here to interact with and I learn a lot from them and they can also learn from me. Thanks, choy!
@cupkitties (7421)
• United States
14 Dec 12
A friend poured his heart out about a girl he loves and has had an off on relationship with. He told me about all these horrible things she's done to him. One being that she keeps cheating on him. He asked me what he should do. So basically I told him he has given her too many chances, he needs to stop getting back with her and how to go about it. Later on he contacted me saying ." Thank you so much for listening to me, but I'm not going to take your advice. I love her and just not ready to let her go." Okay, sure he thanked me, but I don't even know why he bothered to ask me if he's not even willing to change things. It kind of hurt my feelings a little, but I only wished him the best. He's going to learn the hard way.
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@Aja103654 (5646)
• Philippines
15 Dec 12
You did your part. I think that person was expecting a different advice. He didn't have enough courage to take action towards the problem. Don't worry though, I'm sure someday he will remember your advice and do something about the situation. If he needed help, he needs to know that he should help himself first.
@dream_ozn (1754)
• Singapore
14 Dec 12
Hey aja, I get what you mean. However, we need to understand that we as an outsider, ultimately cannot make a decision. We can only give our best advise and then it depends totally on the other person whether they want to listen to our advise or not. I know in this case, it is worse for you becaus the other person had bad English and you tried you best into understanding it. Perhaps instead of feeling angry, why not just feel since you had already done your best to help this person and hope the best for him or her. Another plus point was that due to you anger, it has given you the motivation to earn more :)
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@dream_ozn (1754)
• Singapore
16 Dec 12
Hey aja, Icic. So it was because the person made some assumption on you. hmm, since you were trying to help him/her, then that's not the way he/she should reciprocate. Even if the person does nto follow your advise, they should at the very least say thank you for giving some advise and not making some assumptions. Just remember who that person is and then don't bother to reply anymore.
@Aja103654 (5646)
• Philippines
15 Dec 12
I know hahaha! That person made me angry that I'm actually earning because of it. I didn't expect the person to follow my advice. What I really hated was the fact that person seem to have assumed things about me. I suppose I did the same so I really am in no place to take it out on that person.
@Mavic123456 (21898)
• Thailand
13 Dec 12
Yes, that's positive, angry + discussion = earning. wheee heeee... Now this is the answer to your question, have I ever tried giving advice and yet it wasn't appreciated? Yes... but I don't mind. These are series, so I hope you have your popcorn and soda with you. LOL An author discuss something about a certain habit like smoking. and ask what do you think are the implications of smoking. Of course, I want to earn, I commented based on my opinion. The author, responded back and said.. "really?.. blah blah blah" as if the author was in doubt. (the author wants to earn too I know. ok, play along... I responded again, and this time I supported my answer with the link about smoking. Author came back again.. "Oh I have been smoking for 10 years but I never felt that. thanks anyway... by the way here is the link. read it first and then you comment again, I can't read it for now I have a to go for a party." I was like this --- I really don't like people who post discussions then don't go back to answer that they have read the comment at least. Author's Discussion: I am so helpless this time.. please tell me what to do... Me: (for earning)... I have some suggestions I hope you won't mind.. blah blah blah.. yadda yada yadadadadada After a few minutes... ........ then.......... then........ Me waiting for the reaction from the Author.. ok.. then.. ME, are you okay??? then I will just see the name of the author posted another discussion entirely different from the first one. This time the author discussed, "What delicious chocolate it was" .... HUH???? I read the delicious cake discussion thinking it has to do with the first discussion... whaat.. it was the about the chocolate cake of a certain cafe and totally has nothing to do with the first discussion. LOL [i] I thought you were desperate... I thought.. you were helpless... OMG, you just wasted my time, tired my brain I thought you were seriously in need of help should I known that this discussion is just a phoney or another soap opera's script I could have advised you to hang yourself or jump off the bridge. LOL.. [/i] just another of this face ---- ok that's all. LOL
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@Aja103654 (5646)
• Philippines
14 Dec 12
hahaha, that person is kind of stupid. I don't think I will be insulted by that person, that person just clearly wanted some attention and he got and when he got responses he even bragged about his knowledge and corrected you. He did ask for help, right? Naturally people would give the advice. If he didn't want help, he should have talked about the smoking thing as good and that he has proof and that he is okay. His smoking must have affected his brain that way. hahaha, so bad! It's annoying yes, good thing we earn from that response or else it would have been a pleasure to bash that person. But that is against mylot rules so... let's not do that. hahah!
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@Mavic123456 (21898)
• Thailand
14 Dec 12
Yes, and once I experienced that with a user, I never come back to his/her discussion. I have lost already my appetite to ever think of what ever to comment to his/her discussion.
@Aja103654 (5646)
• Philippines
15 Dec 12
That's for the best. Avoid trouble as much as possible. What's the point of risking banishment?
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@ctryhnny (3460)
• United States
13 Dec 12
lol...the bad grammar makes me crazy too. A lot of times I can't write anything because I don't understand what they are saying. I try to stay away from discussions I don't understand because they might not even understand what I'm trying to get across from them.
@Aja103654 (5646)
• Philippines
14 Dec 12
I experience that sometimes. I try to respond still, by only giving my opinion which is somewhat related to the discussion. Even if it isn't related, it's fine. I still earn hhahaha
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@ElicBxn (63252)
• United States
13 Dec 12
I agree. There are some I won't bother with because they can get rude.
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@Aja103654 (5646)
• Philippines
15 Dec 12
That's right.
@sender621 (14894)
• United States
14 Dec 12
Sometimes we can find that advice is not taken in the spirit it was given and intended. something gets lost in the translation and the advice seems void and unaccepted.
@Aja103654 (5646)
• Philippines
15 Dec 12
I understand. -sigh- tough for people like me whose got English as second language.
@katie0 (5203)
• Japan
13 Dec 12
Oh many times, I end up not trying to help anymore. Specially those people I worried so much and gave advice, they say no and then end up following it later and see that I thought it through and my intentions were good, if they just keep not accepting for being stuborn I give up. I appreciate so much when someone try to help that I don't like when someone just cut this friendly hand off.
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@Aja103654 (5646)
• Philippines
14 Dec 12
I'm guilty of being stubborn to. Now I know how it feels to have my friendly hand cut off. I will never be very stubborn ever again. Some troubled people are not ready to help themselves, that must be why they are so stubborn or maybe they think they have done what they could. Or may they are just annoyed because they think people are patronizing them when actually those very people were only trying to help them.
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@Paper_Doll (2373)
• Philippines
14 Dec 12
Yes, it happened to me a couple of times but I just ignore them. I still reply to their discussions but this time, I already expect that they won't listen nor consider my advice. Yes, I do feel annoyed sometimes especially when they replied something that is below the belt, taking everything personally and using your own advice to criticize you and your whole personality.
@Aja103654 (5646)
• Philippines
15 Dec 12
Exactly, that is what really pisses me off. They wanted some advice, they get it and those who kindly took the time to do so they attack personally? It's so annoying. Some people just have little to no consideration for others. Selfish people.
@BabyCheetah (1911)
• Australia
13 Dec 12
I haven't had anything that made me really angry or that I've been insulted but I've disagreed with some things people have said but those don't come up often at all. I'm pretty easygoing though
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@Aja103654 (5646)
• Philippines
14 Dec 12
No problem then
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13 Dec 12
Helloo Aja i have really read your discussion and i think you have the course to be angry but i think you being on mylot needs a lot of patience since we are all from different countries so i think the language will differ a little bit but never the less i think you should please excersise patience with everyone no matter what the issue is.But still you are a great FUN of mine.
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@Aja103654 (5646)
• Philippines
14 Dec 12
Thank you chrisaiks! I know haha I should be more patient. I guess I did well by not arguing with that member. I just made a quick exit with one last note, wanting that person to know that I only gave the answer that person which I think that person needed. You're right. It takes a lot of patience. Thankfully, there are many patient people in mylot that help this site become a better place to be a member in.
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@ZoeJoy (1392)
• United States
13 Dec 12
Be understanding. There are a lot of people on Mylot who don't speak English very well. English is not their first language. I offer 'suggestions' and then, I am objective. If they don't take my 'suggestion' I know I offered it with my good intentions. Everyone has to figure out their own lives. What I suggest may not be what is best for them. But it could help them, just to know that someone is trying to show that they care. On the internet, especially in an international program like Mylot, we are not going to totally relate nor understand each other at all times. Living in different countries means living in very different cultures. Don't be angry nor insulted. Be kind and patient and considerate of other people's situation. It is best to stay positive by thinking the best of others.
@Aja103654 (5646)
• Philippines
15 Dec 12
My bad, I know I'm being rude. Just wanted to let out some steam. Anyway, it's over now and I have gotten over it.
@cobalt20 (1318)
• Philippines
13 Dec 12
There are some who is not appreciate your advice. Life goes on. We do not mind them. I do appreciate all advices from Mylotters. Just keep calm down and be cool.
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@Aja103654 (5646)
• Philippines
14 Dec 12
I will do just that.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
14 Dec 12
Aja 103654 oh my dear go read the guidelines as that person had every right to be angry with you. in the guidelines it explains that we are not to criticize others who come from many other countries and have English as a second language so you broke the admins rule about not criticizing others grammar.She had every right to be upset with you as you could have read the guidelines and learned to overlook others grammar as they are learning English for the first time. Give the poor person some slack.Let her or him come to you asking for help then advise. giving unwanted advice is criticism to the person you were so called advising.
@Aja103654 (5646)
• Philippines
15 Dec 12
Well, I already regret how upset I am with that. I blamed the grammar for the misunderstanding we have. If I could delete those words... I would. but mylot is not set to work that way with discussions.
@jaiho2009 (39142)
• Philippines
13 Dec 12
I experienced the same thing months ago. I am trying to help one member here since they're newbies here (I want to speak in general) But that member took me wrong, so I decided to rest my case. Sometimes it's frustrating when good things turn bad, but such thing is beyond our control. Since then, I avoid responding to any topic started by that member (not because I am angry, but because I want to avoid any more misunderstanding) Yah, the more we interact, the more we earn...so let's enjoy this site as long as we do not violate any guidelines.
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@Aja103654 (5646)
• Philippines
14 Dec 12
It's awful but people have different ideas so conflict is natural. Good thing you let it rest, no point in arguing risking getting banned.
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@jenny1015 (13366)
• Philippines
13 Dec 12
I did experience being unappreciated by a former classmate. I was trying to help out with the line up of activities for our 25th reunion, and she just shut me off by saying that the jobs needed for the reunion has been delegated to other members of our batch. Well, I didn't feel bad about it when she said it then. But 10 months after, I have seen nothing happened for the preparation of our reunion except having 2 exclusive film showing as a fund-raising activity.
@Aja103654 (5646)
• Philippines
14 Dec 12
Wow, some people are just like that huh. They have too much pride that they don't accept help. I know people like that back in school too!
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@jenny1015 (13366)
• Philippines
14 Dec 12
Doesn't it just infuriate you when you know that a lot of help can be extended to them so that they would not be too pressured in preparing for the said activity and yet they wouldn't even bother to reply to a text message even to just to say, "No, thanks. We can handle everything ourselves". But no! They didn't even bother to react to the message sent to them just recently.
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@Aja103654 (5646)
• Philippines
14 Dec 12
If they don't want help don't give it to them. I know it's infuriating because you care for the activity and you are not satisfied with the way they are handling it. Are you close to those people? Maybe they are just very busy preparing for it or maybe they don't care so much so they didn't bother to reply to you.
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@jodylee (946)
• United States
27 Dec 12
My lot is full of people of all kinds I have noticed. It is nice to find people who can appreciate what you say. Feel free to stop by my discussions and give your advice. I like to hear others perspectives and ideas, it helps me shape my own. That is how we grow. Unfortunately for certain people, they take longer to realize the importance of others wisdom.
@jodylee (946)
• United States
27 Dec 12
It is true we grow wiser faster when we listen and try to understand others. I certainly do not take all advice to heart and use it, and sometimes I hear some advice and I think to myself well that is the exact opposite of how I feel. But, that just makes me feel stronger in myself. Most of my posts are seeking advice from others. Feel free to check my profile and comment on any of interest to you :)
@Aja103654 (5646)
• Philippines
27 Dec 12
Thank you jodylee. ^_^ When we think like that we learn more and grow wiser faster. Okay then, I have not see you make discussions yet, I have not come across them... But no worries, I'll take a look and see.
@cvbr71 (31)
• India
13 Dec 12
We help someone by way of an advice is in the context of any problem arisen to a person because you feel concerned about his/her problem.Whether that advice is taken in a positive or negative way is up yo him/her,You did your bit of job you felt right.If someone responds to it in an insulting manner,it should be left to his Conscience.Although his/her words are humiliating,we should not take it to our heart because your heart knows what you did.You should take bad and good things positively and try to be as honest as we can.
@Aja103654 (5646)
• Philippines
14 Dec 12
I'm too honest sometimes but I control it in a way that the bad things I want and really mean to say won't come out so that I won't upset anyone or to avoid trouble. We shouldn't take it personally however, that person was being personal towards me because that person said I must have gone through failures, and then added a disapproving face. That's just annoying and insulting to me. Maybe that person was insulted by my post too, maybe it's my mistake for thinking that person would understand it.