Have You Ever Signed As A Co-Borrower

@ARIES1973 (11426)
Legaspi, Philippines
February 10, 2013 4:14am CST
I have an office mate who believes that she made one big mistake by signing as co-maker or co-borrower with one of her friends who filed a a loan several years ago. After several years my office mate received a collection letter from a small claims court requiring her to pay the amount stated on the letter. She was shocked because she never thought that this thing would happen considering that the said loan was applied several years ago and the fact that the main borrower is still in service. How about you my friends, did you ever been asked by a friend to sign as co-borrower when they file a loan? Have a nice day!
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@yallit (3677)
• Philippines
10 Feb 13
No, I won't do such a thing. My mom did though. She acted as a co-maker for her previous subordinate to help him out with a loan. And like your story, my mom received a letter a few years later demanding her to pay for the remaining payable amount of the loan since the principal borrower failed to do so. She contacted the principal borrower and advised him to settle his obligations. I think the guy did because my mom no longer received a follow up notice.
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@ARIES1973 (11426)
• Legaspi, Philippines
10 Feb 13
Hi yalit! Yes we better not. I was also surprised about the demand letter because for all those times that I am working this fellow, I know how prudent she was and she will always see to it that she settles her financial obligations on time. As of now, I am very much afraid to sign any paper about loans. We don't know what will happen. It is better to be safe. Thank you for sharing!
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@ravisivan (14079)
• India
10 Feb 13
Aries it is really sad one is compelled to pay the money he has not taken because he has given guarantee. my parents use to advise not to sign for others but give what we can so that we can forget about that. no way but to pay--maximum can ask for compromise.
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@ARIES1973 (11426)
• Legaspi, Philippines
10 Feb 13
Hi rav! My husband would always remind be of the same thing also. He also had several office mates who were deducted big amounts from their retirement benefits because they sign as co-borrower several years before and the principal borrower was not able to pay the loan. Thank you for sharing!
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@Austee (131)
11 Feb 13
I never sign a co-borrower. I do not want to take a risk. I remember a friend of mine also asked me to be a co-maker of his partner in business. I did not sign but my friend did. Then it turns out that the borrower did not pay her loan. And now my friend is paying the debt.
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@ARIES1973 (11426)
• Legaspi, Philippines
13 Feb 13
That was really bad for your friend. In our mind, we want to help but in the end we will be the one who will suffer. This is the sad thing when all of a sudden, we will just know that we are already liable to pay something we did not even seen. It is really a good thing to be careful. Thank you for sharing!
@pahak627 (4558)
• Philippines
10 Feb 13
I have signed as co-maker for my officemates and a few friends. I have experienced receiving a demand letter from the bank where my officemate borrowed money with me as co-maker/borrower. When I received the letter I immediately approached my officemate and he promised me that he will pay his loan. From that time on, I don't immediately sign as co-borrower as I don't want to experience that same incident again.
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@ARIES1973 (11426)
• Legaspi, Philippines
12 Feb 13
At least your office mate was able to settle his obligation otherwise you will be the one to pay the amount. What I don't understand is that why other financing institution would run after the co-maker when in fact the principal borrower still has the capacity to pay. There are really times that I would refuse to sign as co-maker and I would simply give a reason that it is not allowed in our religion. Thank you for sharing!
• United States
10 Feb 13
If you have any sense you never put your name as a co-signer because that does make you the co-borrower. You must assume that at some point you will have to pay off the note because the borrower couldn't get the loan on his or her own credit standing. Oftentimes, parents will go into huge debt by signing on as a co-borrower. It's a foolish thing to do because they are responsible for paying it back if the borrower fails to. The only way I would become a co-borrower is if I wanted to maybe but a car for my own kid is if I knew the kid would be responsible enough to honor the debt, and if it wouldn't put me in a bind if I got stuck with it. I've never co-signed for my daughter. I feel if a kid wants to build credit they can start small. They can borrow $200 from a finance company and pay that back on their own. They can build their credit just like we had to.
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@ARIES1973 (11426)
• Legaspi, Philippines
12 Feb 13
Yes that is a part of our obligations that we should be aware of. It is safer to sign as co-borrower if we are on the same office and the loan is being deducted directly from the our salary. But with other financing institutions, it would be very risky. Thank you for sharing!
@ardoy0731 (7308)
• Philippines
13 Feb 13
So far I havent do it at all. But one of my colleague did to one of our colleague as well yet that colleague was already resigned. Then afterwards the bank where our former colleague loaned certain amounts called looking for the co maker of the loan which is one of my colleague. Well she was really shocked about it since she never know that the loan is not yet fully paid. I dont whats the update now about this matter.
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@ARIES1973 (11426)
• Legaspi, Philippines
13 Feb 13
while it is true that we are helping our friends or office mates to solve their problems regarding finances by signing as co-maker, we are also taking a great risk in relation thereto. Good for others who understand the situation and would do their best to settle their obligations. How about others who after they were able to get what they want forget about everything? We should be careful especially when it is about money matters. thank you for sharing!
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@julyteen (13252)
• Davao, Philippines
11 Feb 13
I did it many times to some of my closed friends. So far, no one give me headache about the money which they didn't pay the lender. I borrowed also money before from a bank and I need a co-borrower so I asked them also to signed for me.
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@julyteen (13252)
• Davao, Philippines
13 Feb 13
But I encountered somebody borrowed me money and never paid. It's from my own experience. Need more careful about this matter
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@ARIES1973 (11426)
• Legaspi, Philippines
13 Feb 13
You are lucky that you haven't encountered problems in relation to this. Ye that could also help if you are doing it for business purposes. Thank you for sharing!
@ARIES1973 (11426)
• Legaspi, Philippines
16 Feb 13
We need to conduct background investigations whenever we lend money to some person. But better to refuse if there is really a way.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
10 Feb 13
hi Aries I have been asked but I have also refsed just because; I do nit want ot get a notice telling me I owe somolene lese's debt. This way ant debts I make are all my doing and I dol not make debts I cannot afford to pay,. this way I am never in any financial difficulty. viva saying no at all times to aiding a borrower.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
10 Feb 13
not not nit,someone else's any not ant,
@ARIES1973 (11426)
• Legaspi, Philippines
12 Feb 13
Yes we should know that doing so will be very risky and we can refuse because that is our right. Thank you for sharing!
@joliefille (3690)
• Philippines
10 Feb 13
No, I haven't. I would be wary of doing so. Even if I have to loan and ask someone to be my co-borrower I would be doubtful as well. We don't know what will happen and if I might not be able to finish off a loan, then I am ruining my friendship with that co-borrower as well.
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@ARIES1973 (11426)
• Legaspi, Philippines
12 Feb 13
Perhaps we can do some agreement so that we will both benefit from the act. You sign as her/his co-maker and she/he also sign as you co-maker. Personally, I also request a certain person to be my co-maker but the loan that we have are being paid through salary deduction so we don't encounter any problem so far. Thank you for sharing!
@LaurenInLA (2270)
• United States
11 Feb 13
Not by a friend but by a family member. I was young and I was stupid and my cousin immediately defaulted on the loan and I was stuck for the bill. Never ever sign as a co-borrower for anyone.
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• United States
13 Feb 13
Yes, I was. I was young and stupid and my parents matched every payment that I made with an equal amount so I actually paid back half of the loan but my parents paid the other half. Needless to say, the whole incident created a huge rift in the family and I have not spoken to that cousin since that episode.
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@ARIES1973 (11426)
• Legaspi, Philippines
13 Feb 13
Oh, that is really sad. Well, my husband think of me as some kind of, I am not sure how to say this, a little stupid and a little kind, because I am pitiful I can be tricked easily so he would always remind me not to sign any document that is requiring me to sign as co-maker. Have a nice day!
@ARIES1973 (11426)
• Legaspi, Philippines
13 Feb 13
So you were made to pay the entire loan? Thank you for sharing!
@aerous (13434)
• Philippines
11 Feb 13
No...I don't want to be a co-borrower because it will be worse case if the principal avoid to pay or not pay the said amount that he/she borrowed. I refuse even a guarantee in anything because there are consequences that the guarantor is the one who responsible when the principal or the borrower didn't pay the said amount he/she borrowed...
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@aerous (13434)
• Philippines
13 Feb 13
I said it because of my experience which is give me trouble and pay the debt that someone gain for it. That is why I am very careful now because a friend that I trusted so much will betrayed me and didn't pay the money he borrowed but escape somewhere else...
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@ARIES1973 (11426)
• Legaspi, Philippines
16 Feb 13
At least you have learned from this experience. We cannot just trust anybody when it comes to money.
@ARIES1973 (11426)
• Legaspi, Philippines
13 Feb 13
Yes, that's true. We cannot be sure if the person will be paying the loan religiously. So we should always be careful when dealing with matters like this. Thank you for sharing!
@andy77e (5156)
• United States
16 Feb 13
Never. The Bible says someone who signs for a loan is foolish. This is why. I'll never co-sign for a loan for anyone. It's a huge mistake.
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@ARIES1973 (11426)
• Legaspi, Philippines
16 Feb 13
Hi andy! Thank you for this additional information. I don't know about it. But it is really a big mistake to sign as co-maker and the principal borrower did not pay the loan. Thank you for sharing!
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
10 Feb 13
hi friend, I would advice everybody to stay away from doing or engaging in such, why? Ask your self first what benefit you would get if you sign or agree to be a co-maker? Most likely the answer would be " nothing" and the liabilities are so numerous. I think there are quite a bit or few exceptions especially if you are in business like, if the person is a business partner and he or she is more qualified to secure a loan that both of you would be benefiting from. Also make sure that you have access to the borrowed money from the moment it is released like a joint bank account that would be used for your joint endeavor, other than that, stay away from it even with close friends and relatives, learn evasion techniques and how to make good excuses even to people you find very hard to refuse
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
13 Feb 13
I just tell them that with any such decisions me and my wife always consult each other first and we both agreed never to become a co-makers to anybody and everybody ( and that means including the person i am talking to), then I continue with my little white lie LOLby saying that I do not want this to be the source of our quarrel, that's it folks! Yeah Happy Valentines Day!
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@ARIES1973 (11426)
• Legaspi, Philippines
13 Feb 13
Since you are my idol, then I have to follow this advice also. he he.
@ARIES1973 (11426)
• Legaspi, Philippines
13 Feb 13
Yeah one of my excuses is that my religion would not allow such kind of act. Can you give other excuses? Happy Valentines day! Thank you for sharing!
@911Ricki (13588)
• Canada
10 Feb 13
I would never do this, for this exact reason. I know many people who do this, and end up in hot water with their credit, and debt because of others. No matter how long you know them, or even family they are more likely to screw you over.
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@ARIES1973 (11426)
• Legaspi, Philippines
13 Feb 13
Hi ricki! I agree with you. When it comes to money matters we cannot trust even our closest friends. there are many relationships that were ruined because of this concern. For me it is better that my friend get angry because I did not sign-up at the start rather than feeling sorry at the end. Thank you for sharing!
@911Ricki (13588)
• Canada
13 Feb 13
You are absolutely right on this. It's not worth the loss of a friend or family member, or the hassle to our credit.
@Fishmomma (11377)
• United States
11 Feb 13
I have been asked by one of my daughters and didn't do it. She didn't make payments lost the house and the company called me to try locating her. I received 100's of calls from the company and am glad I refused to sign.
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@ARIES1973 (11426)
• Legaspi, Philippines
13 Feb 13
Hi fishmomma! Oh, that is sad for your daughter. It would be a great loss on our part if we already pay the down payment yet we were not able to pay for sometime. The financing institution would surely foreclose the collateral made. Thank you for sharing!
@dpk262006 (58675)
• Delhi, India
11 Feb 13
I have signed as a Guarantor for a loan in one or two cases. Those were either close relatives or close friends and they were clearly told that am just completing the formality and I should not receive any reminder from the concerned authorities for repaying loan. I told them that if at all it comes, I would fire them. I was not put in an embarrassing position in both the cases. Both the parties repaid the entire amount from their own sources.
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@ARIES1973 (11426)
• Legaspi, Philippines
13 Feb 13
Glad to know that you haven't encountered problem. Although problems may arise from time to time, there are also people who have word of honor and would do their best to comply with their obligations. Thank you for sharing!
@saundyl (9783)
• Canada
11 Feb 13
No I haven't - however i have had a co-signer for myself in the past. I would only do it for a family member or spouse if necessary.
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@ARIES1973 (11426)
• Legaspi, Philippines
13 Feb 13
Yes, that would be a good decision to make. We just have to be careful or just sign if we know that if ever the principal borrower would not be able to pay the amount, we can be able to pay it. Thank you for sharing!
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@blue65packer (11826)
• United States
10 Feb 13
I have never been a co-signer on any loans. I had to get one once to pay off some debt. My best friend was my co-signer. I had not trouble paying back the loan. The bank took the payments out of my checking account every month until it was paid off.Don't recall how long that loan was. Doing the same thing right now with my current loan which is a three year loan. I didn't need a co-signer on this one which was nice! This loan is also to pay some some pain in the azz bills that are no longer going to haunt me anymore! At least I am smoart on the line with money just wish i was more with other money situations!
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@ARIES1973 (11426)
• Legaspi, Philippines
13 Feb 13
Hi blue! Yes,other financing institutions require that a borrower issue in advance post dated checks. That a can be a good option. It is also good to know that you were able to pay the amount already and was not required a co-borrower on the second loan. Thank you for sharing!
• China
11 Feb 13
I have no loan for I am a housewife, I know the credit card will have interest when you are not pay the loan in the previous mmonth, in order to save money ,I get rid of credit card. I have not sign as co-maker or co-borrower for I don't need to borrow money to earn money. I signed some web to earn money directly with no money put in. Wish you earn money more in your spare time.
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@ARIES1973 (11426)
• Legaspi, Philippines
13 Feb 13
Hi jane! Yes owning a credit can also add to our burden so it is necessary that we know how to handle it. Thank you for sharing!
• United States
10 Feb 13
Hey ARIES, how's it going? I have indeed made the mistake of co-signing with friends on two occasions. The first, I was interviewing a potential flat-mate, and she had me co-sign at a furniture rental place that day, then backed out of the arrangement. Another time, I co-signed a bond to get a co-worker out of jail on a traffic related charge. She went on to get two more charges in two other jurisdictions. Then the three cases came up in inverted order, last one first. I began to have my doubts about being on her bond. Thankfully, the bondsman was a schoolmate and helped me find a way, but it wasn't easy. I would not recommend either of the two circumstances for anyone. Keep your signatures to your own affairs. As for your office mate, if she lives in the States, she can see an attorney for a free consultation and they can probably recommend a solution for her.
@ARIES1973 (11426)
• Legaspi, Philippines
13 Feb 13
Hi belinda! We are from the Philippines and I think she was able to settle the case already because she talked with the principal borrower regarding this matter. It's good that the borrower settled the debt after several demands. Thank you for sharing!