Doctors Aren't Always Right

@simone10 (54180)
Louisville, Kentucky
September 23, 2015 6:25am CST
First off, I want to apologize that this discussion is so long. I tried to shorten it but there was just too much that I had to say. About a month and a half ago I went to a new rheumatologist for rheumatoid arthritis (RA). At first I really liked him. Then he started telling me things that just didn't mesh with the last doctors I saw in Las Vegas. He blamed everything on fibromyalgia and said I didn't have RA. He also said I didn't have osteoarthritis in my left hip. When I mentioned to him how my back has been so painful that I couldn't stand for longer than 15 minutes and how my thigh goes completely numb if I sleep on my right side, he didn't seem concerned at all, said there wasn't any point in having an MRI, that it was firbormyalgia and just started talking about something else. I didn't know what to believe and about a week later I got a call from the doctor's office and was told by the nurse that I did have RA. He was wrong about me not having RA. I went back for a second visit about a week or so ago and there were a lot more red flags. When I gave him the MRI that I had taken a few years ago on my hip showing that I have osteoarthritis, he said he couldn't understand half of what the report said and then he went into explaining how the hip works. Okay, another red flag because he couldn't even read the MRI report. I talked to him again about my back and right leg. I told him that my thigh gets so numb that I can stick it with a needle and not feel a thing. I can walk though but it still scares me and worries me. I am concerned there is a nerve problem and if not taken care of, it could be become permanent. I asked if it could be a disk problem and could it have ruptured. He said that people have ruptured disks all the time. That was his exact words to me. He still didn't want to do an MRI of my back. He also told me that he still doesn't believe I have RA because if I had it for 7-8 years (like my medical records show) I would have bone damage by now and the xrays he had done in his office didn't show anything. Well, my doctors have always treated me aggressively with medications for RA and that is the whole purpose, to stop the progression of the disease. Duh!! I knew for a fact that what he had just said wasn't true. I was very frustrated and disillusioned when I came home. I decided that I would have to find another rheumatologist and in the mean time, I made an appointment with my primary doctor for the 28th and I am going to ask her if she can order an MRI of my back and also of my hip. I just don't understand. I know that doctors are only human and can make mistakes but this doctor knocked down everything I had to say or question and was convinced he was right. He wouldn't even listen to me. According to him, everything was fibromyalgia. I know my body better than anyone else does and I know there is something wrong with my back. It may not be anything serious but I want the peace of mind to know and I want someone to explain to me why my right thigh goes numb when I lay on the right side of my back. Is that too much to ask? My advice is, you know your body better than anyone else does. You know when something isn't right. Don't let a doctor bully you into believing something without the proof. If you have to, find another doctor or get a second opinion.
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@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
23 Sep 15
I think that for this doctor, saying "fibromyalgia" relives him of a lot of responsibility for treatment. It's just easier for him that way.
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@Marcyaz (35316)
• United States
23 Sep 15
He must be one of those doctors that doesn't have a clue. You are right easier for him this way.
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• United States
23 Sep 15
yepperz, they can now prescribe ya all sorts 'f meds by slappin' a benign label'n it. the pharmaceutical companies jest giggle all the way to the bank 'n yer left with bigger troubles :(
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@simone10 (54180)
• Louisville, Kentucky
25 Sep 15
@Rollo1 @marcyaz @crazyhorseladycx I think so too! I know that fibromyalgia is a real disease and I don't even doubt that I have it but to say every symptom I have is fibrmyalgia without any further testing is just wrong.
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@jaboUK (64346)
• United Kingdom
23 Sep 15
I don't know if you read @crazyhorseladycx 's diatribe against the medical profession on the other site, but most of her problems have been caused by misdiagnosis. So yes, go for a second opinion. I have lived with numbness in my buttock and groin area for years, and I believe it's due to a trapped nerve. I've never bothered to ask a doctor about it as it causes me no problems.
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@Marcyaz (35316)
• United States
23 Sep 15
If you feel you have been misdiagnosed go to another doctor, use and go with your gut feeling.
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• United States
23 Sep 15
sometimes its best to jest avoid those doc's, ms. janet. seen a thingy jest last night (early this morn??) talkin' 'bout 1 in 10 folks 're misdiagnosed/or their treatments incorrect. purty dang scary...
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• United States
23 Sep 15
@Marcyaz unfortunately, one's so many hoops to jump through to get those 2nd, 3rd 'n beyond referrals so's insurance'll pay fer such that many jest give up 'n go with the flow
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@drannhh (15219)
• United States
24 Sep 15
You might like to look up the term iatragenic illness if you haven't encountered it before. In short it is an illness caused by a doctor and/or medical treatment. Statistics on what percent of illness in the US is iatragenic vary, but some respected health professionals say that a third of all deaths here are caused by it and we are talking about hundreds of thousands of people dying of this every year. So what you say about us knowing our own bodies is crucial to our survival.
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@drannhh (15219)
• United States
25 Sep 15
@simone10 Glad you are looking out for yourself.
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@simone10 (54180)
• Louisville, Kentucky
25 Sep 15
@drannhh I've never heard of that but will look it up. I agree that knowing our own bodies is crucial and someone should listen and rule things out, even it if isn't any serious.
@simone10 (54180)
• Louisville, Kentucky
25 Sep 15
@drannhh I just looked it up and now understand. It made me remember something else that I talked to him about. He wanted to put me on Cymbalta. I told him that I can't take any anti-depressants because I also take tramadal and I had a reaction which my primary doctor said was seritonin syndrome. I had internal shakes and it scared me. When I looked it up, I was really scared because it can be life threatening. When I told him that he kind of laughed it off and still wanted to give me Cymbalta but I refused.
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@marlina (154103)
• Canada
23 Sep 15
I know exactly how you feel about this. I have Scleroderma and the doctors have a tendency to blame everything on this which is not always the case. Very frustrating.
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@Marcyaz (35316)
• United States
23 Sep 15
That would be very frustating.
@simone10 (54180)
• Louisville, Kentucky
25 Sep 15
@marlina It is frustrating. I'm not saying that I don't have fibromyalgia because I probably do but I don't think this back pain is caused from that.
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@marlina (154103)
• Canada
25 Sep 15
@simone10 I doubt that your back pain is caused by that too.
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@LadyDuck (502569)
• Italy
23 Sep 15
I completely agree with you. We know our body and we must listen to it. Some doctors are so much happy of themselves that they do not listen, they believe they know everything, that is almost never the case. I hope you can find someone who is able to listen to you and find the real problem.
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@Marcyaz (35316)
• United States
23 Sep 15
If I go to see a doctor and that doctor doesn't listen to me I will not go back. I know when I am hurting or sick and can tell them when something is not right with my body.
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@Marcyaz (35316)
• United States
23 Sep 15
@LadyDuck That is exactly how I feel and I will find myself another doctor.
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@LadyDuck (502569)
• Italy
23 Sep 15
@Marcyaz I do the same, I do not care if he is a doctor and I am not, I know my body.
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@fawkes62 (1276)
• United States
23 Sep 15
I would find another doctor too. Not being able to read an MRI report is a huge read flag and I would get out of that office as fast as I could. MRI's are fairly standard procedures for some and any doctor should be able to read that report. Hopefully you are able to find a better doctor.
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@ElicBxn (64169)
• United States
24 Sep 15
Well, reading an MRI might not be a red flag, after all, there is a specialty for reading those things. HOWEVER, if she had the MRI, it included the report of what was going on in the MRI, and that should be in at least standard medical lingo, even if not in plain English... I think this guy is a bit of a quack...
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@simone10 (54180)
• Louisville, Kentucky
25 Sep 15
@fawkes62 @ElicBxn Him not being able to read the MRI report was a red flag for sure. He is a rheumotologist and has to deal with xrays, etc all the time. He is in his 50's, not a young doctor right out of med school.
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@fawkes62 (1276)
• United States
1 Oct 15
@simone10 I agree that it would be a red flag, especially in a specialty where they are dealing with those on a regular basis. I hope you find someone you are comfortable with soon.
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@Marcyaz (35316)
• United States
23 Sep 15
I understand your frustration and am glad you are not going back to this quack. I would check him out online, I was once given two doctors names to call and see one of them when I checked out the first one he had some things on his record which was a red flag to me so I never went to see him. I then called my primary doctor and told her of this and she said they would be looking into his background and would not be recommending him to anyone else until they found out what the story was on him.
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@Marcyaz (35316)
• United States
25 Sep 15
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@simone10 (54180)
• Louisville, Kentucky
25 Sep 15
@Marcyaz Where would I go to check him out online?
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@simone10 (54180)
• Louisville, Kentucky
26 Sep 15
@Marcyaz Thank you so much for this! I am going to look at it right now.
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@Blondie2222 (28610)
• United States
23 Sep 15
Well I hope your primary doctor can do what you need him to do. That doctor sounds like he doesn't really care about his patients if he won't even listen to you and look at reports from the other physicians you went too. I would def seek another doctor to get better care for yourself. Good luck
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@Marcyaz (35316)
• United States
23 Sep 15
If he is a doctor that is, there are quacks in the medical profession just like everywhere else.
@simone10 (54180)
• Louisville, Kentucky
25 Sep 15
@Blondie2222 What blew my mind is that he didn't even know how to read an MRI.
@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
24 Sep 15
When i am not satisfied with what the doctor has done to check what i am not feeling well , i would usually ask for another doctor's opinion .
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
25 Sep 15
@simone10 Go, go , go !
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@simone10 (54180)
• Louisville, Kentucky
26 Sep 15
@SIMPLYD Thanks for the encouragement! I will see what my primary doctor has to say on Monday.
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@simone10 (54180)
• Louisville, Kentucky
25 Sep 15
@SIMPLYD That is exactly what I am going to do. This is getting really ridiculous.
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• United States
4 Oct 15
That is why I stopped going to the doctor.. First the doctor told me to wear a brace at night for tendentious, (she didn't tell me why I was in pain, I figured that out myself) and then after going back 2-3 times, she finally told me why and so I did my own research, seeing that if my wrist was not swollen, I could do preventative exercises. Another time I was sick for 3 straight weeks, (when I say sick, I am talking I am in bed and don't care if the house is getting covered in all kinds of dirt) going to the doctor in as many times. That said, I haven't been to a doctor since 2012
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• United States
15 Oct 15
@simone10 Isn't there natural ways to control RA? And I know that there is something for BP, yet I also know not everyone is able to do that. Take my husband, whenever he is sick or hurting, he goes to the doctor while I attack my sickness and pain naturally.
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@simone10 (54180)
• Louisville, Kentucky
20 Oct 15
@Carmelanirel2 There are ways to help RA naturally but I have had it for so long that stuff like that doesn't work for me anymore.
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@simone10 (54180)
• Louisville, Kentucky
9 Oct 15
I am on medications for RA so I have to go to the doctor. If I didn't have RA, I would only go once a year for a physical and BP meds.
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@cahaya1983 (11116)
• Malaysia
26 Sep 15
I'm lucky to have a few relatives who are medical practitioners. So when I go to a doctor and if after a consultation I find that the explanation given was unsatisfactory I would always get a second (sometimes third) opinion from them.
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@simone10 (54180)
• Louisville, Kentucky
27 Sep 15
I think that anytime you have any doubts, you should get a second opinion.
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@gudheart (12659)
23 Sep 15
I have and my family members have had the same sort of issue where doctors mis diagnosed health conditions. It is very worrying at times.
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@Marcyaz (35316)
• United States
23 Sep 15
I have had this happen a few times in my life but you have to find yourself a doctor who can help you.
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@simone10 (54180)
• Louisville, Kentucky
25 Sep 15
@gudheart When I go see my primary doctor on Monday, I cam going to ask her to refer me to another rheumatologist.
@gudheart (12659)
23 Sep 15
@Marcyaz The best thing to do is not give up. If one doctor does not understand then there will be one out there that will.
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• United States
23 Sep 15
ya know my thoughts on such, ms. simone. i've been through 37 docs/specialists myself. i do battles with 'em all. e'en momma's hematologist 'n i butt heads. he knew 'nough to test 'er fer a gene mutation, but'll not e'en read his own colleagues reports 's to how to prevent more disease from such. refuses to believe there's a diff'rence 'twixt folate 'n folic acid - the latter 'f which her body can't convert into folate. momma sticks with 'im, ya know, coz he's a doc 'n i aint. if'n yer thinkin' pinched nerve, perhaps a trip to the chiro'd be best? a good'un 'll order 'n mri 'n look through all yer reports 'n set up a treatment plan.
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@simone10 (54180)
• Louisville, Kentucky
25 Sep 15
@crazyhorseladycx I may give the chiro a try if there is nothing seriously wrong. I have an appointment Monday with my primary care doctor and I'm going to ask her for an MRI of my back and both of my hips.
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@simone10 (54180)
• Louisville, Kentucky
26 Sep 15
@crazyhorseladycx I won't give up. I am ready for the fight.
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• United States
25 Sep 15
@simone10 i wish ya the best 'f luck. the aunt'd been to a bunch 'f doc's in arizona who said nary a thingy was ailin' her. when she came here, i took her to my chiro (now retired, dang it) 'n 'fter a short visit with her sent her off fer an mri. what the others'd blown off 'n missed fer years 'twas she had m.s. like doc's, not all chiro's 're good'uns, but hopefully yer gonna find somebody who'll listen 'n do necessary testin', get a good sturdy treatment plan in place 'n help ya through all this mess. i'd not stop 'til i found myself one. don't get discouraged with all the hoops yer prolly gonna 've to jump through. insurance companies 'f not the patience best interests in mind.
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@ria1606roy (2797)
• Kolkata, India
23 Sep 15
I just don't get it....how did he come up with fibromyalgia out of the blue? I mean, thigh numbness and RA is no laughing matter! No doctor should just ignore what his patient is trying to tell him. Doctors are supposed to be listeners first, then diagnostics. This is just crap. @simone10 you had to go through quite the hassle, just ditch that blabbering idiot.
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@simone10 (54180)
• Louisville, Kentucky
25 Sep 15
@ria1606roy That is what I thought too about the fibromyalgia. I would think that most doctors would do tests to rule out other things before they give a final diagnosis.
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• Kolkata, India
25 Sep 15
@simone10 yes they would. This doctor doesn't even care about diagnostic tests. All he wants is a case of fibromyalgia, and now he has found you to pin it on.
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• Kolkata, India
25 Sep 15
@simone10 have you found another doctor? I kind of understand what you are going through. See, I am a med student. And we are always taught to record history of the patient first and foremost, in patient's own description. So any doctor who doesn't do that is not even following the rules. And yes, the patient in most cases understands her body better if she had been suffering from a chronic condition. So don't ever have doubt about it.
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@ElicBxn (64169)
• United States
24 Sep 15
Absolutely! Is there any way to check this guy's rating with the State medical board. You could also report him...
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@simone10 (54180)
• Louisville, Kentucky
25 Sep 15
@ElicBxn I don't know how to go about doing that. I'm going to wait and see what the results of the MRI are and then I just might do that.
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@MusesM (584)
24 Sep 15
haha yes your discussion is long:),but you are right,we know our body better than anyone else does,i dont like this doctor
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@simone10 (54180)
• Louisville, Kentucky
25 Sep 15
@MusesM I don't care for him much either.
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@GreatMartin (23670)
• Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
24 Sep 15
A smart person no matter how much faith they have in their physician should always get a second opinion even if they think their doc is right--I know I do!
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@simone10 (54180)
• Louisville, Kentucky
25 Sep 15
@GreatMartin That is exactly what I am going to do. I've just never had anything like this come up before.
@Tampa_girl7 (54715)
• United States
23 Sep 15
I m trying to find the source of my pain. It has been a nightmare.
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@simone10 (54180)
• Louisville, Kentucky
25 Sep 15
@Tampa_girl7 We have to be our own advocate because some doctors just don't seem to care. I know you have been having a heck of a time with your pain and I pray they find the source.
@Freelanzer (10782)
• Canada
23 Sep 15
Doctors are humans too and do make mistakes. I for one don't always follow my doctor's orders.
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@simone10 (54180)
• Louisville, Kentucky
25 Sep 15
@Freelanzer Making a mistake is one thing but not listening to your patient's concerns is another.