Would you use a PIN instead of a password?

@Asylum (47893)
Manchester, England
October 14, 2015 11:00am CST
Windows 8 and Windows 10 are configured to use a Microsoft account when logging in to the system. The reason is presumed to be so that you will have direct access to Mail or Onedrive without having to log in to them separately. However, Windows prompts you to set a 4 digit PIN to use instead of the password, which Microsoft insists would be more secure. There is no doubt that Microsoft has a far better comprehension of the system than I ever will, but I find this suggestion laughable. I regularly update my Microsoft password, always ensuring to create a secure password of decent length being alphanumerical along with a few symbols. With 26 letters available and usable as either lower of higher case, along with 10 digits and a myriad of available symbols, the possible permutations are in the billions. With a 4 digit PIN the possible permutations are 10,000, which despite being secure falls well below the password level. Would you use a PIN, or do you feel like me that the suggestion is a joke.
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• United States
15 Oct 15
I don't remember being asked to create a pin, but I did find out how to separate signing into the account from my mail. I think connecting accounts with our e-mail is STUPID! Especially on a desktop computer that is used by more than one person.
@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
15 Oct 15
This should not be an issue because you simply make separate login accounts, one for each user. Nobody will see your email if they use a different account on the computer.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
19 Oct 15
@Carmelanirel2 Surely you could have logged into the one account that was okay and then amended the other one via User Accounts in the Control Panel.
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• United States
19 Oct 15
@Asylum I do have two accounts, but weary of making too many. See on my laptop, I had two accounts and one of them ,messed up and I couldn't sign in. I went to a Microsoft forum and was told to do something I never should have, because I ended up messing another account up. Of course that was on Windows 8.1, but sometimes I get error messages when trying to sign into my new account on the laptop.
@cahaya1983 (11116)
• Malaysia
15 Oct 15
In a way it's good, because it increases the security of your Microsoft account. The PIN is only for the computer, so if someone else has access to it they only have access to the device. But if you login using Microsoft account password then it makes your entire Microsoft account vulnerable (email, etc.)
@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
15 Oct 15
If they access your account via the PIN they will still have access to your emails etcetera.
@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
14 Oct 15
I thought that they added the uppercase and numbers to add security, so why would they want to go to a 4 digit system is beyond me.
@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
14 Oct 15
This is precisely why upper and lower case used, generating a vast number of possible permutations. A 4 digit PIN is a pathetic comparison.
@topffer (42155)
• France
14 Oct 15
It depends what security is behind the PIN. If the account is blocked after a few attempts, it can be good enough. If it is only the IP attempting to access to the account which is blocked, it is a no, no, for me. And if there is no limit for attempts, you are right, it is a joke.
@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
14 Oct 15
If you enter the wrong password when logging into Windows you will get an error message, but you can continue to try for as long as you wish.
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@skysnap (20152)
14 Oct 15
I'd say it depends most of the time my work gets done with the password and PIN are good only for transaction. So Id not use that for that.
@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
14 Oct 15
Yes, a PIN is fine for credit cards etcetera because if someone acquires our card they will have a very limited period in which to try to use it. The card would also be retained if they entered a wrong PIN 3 times, whereas you can constantly try for a computer.
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• United States
14 Oct 15
Personally I wouldn't be happy having to use a PIN
@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
14 Oct 15
It does not appeal to me either, but my biggest surprise is that Microsoft actually claim it to be more secure.
@valmnz (17095)
• New Zealand
15 Oct 15
It all seems far too mind boggling for me, I just do what I have to do.