Girl Declared Dead Gives Doctors a Thumbs Up Before They Can Harvest Her Organs
By AnjaP
@Rollo1 (16676)
Boston, Massachusetts
February 29, 2016 6:45am CST
You have most likely heard about the shooting in Kalamazoo, Michigan, in which a crazy Uber driver drove around town randomly shooting people. Six people were killed in the senseless attacks.
One person who wasn't killed, but nearly died anyway was a 14 year old girl named Abigail Kopf. Doctors called her family for permission to remove organs, even though they had managed to get her heart beating again. While her mother was saying final goodbyes, Abigail squeezed her mother's hand. She also responded to the doctor when he asked if he could hear him by giving him a thumbs up sign. At that point, they started treating her as a patient instead of an organ donor.
I read about Abigail yesterday and this morning while looking for the article I read, I discovered a slew of news articles about people waking up and becoming alert just before doctors harvested their organs. I was a bit disheartened to see how often this happens.
And it worries me because the best organs come from bodies that are not yet dead. Death causes damage to organs. Doctors keep organs in good condition for transplant by giving patients drugs that thin the blood - heparin, for example. These drugs are not meant to restore the patient, just to keep the organs healthy. If you have internal injuries, the last thing you want is a blood thinner.
It worries me that patients are so often being declared dead or irreversibly injured so quickly because of the demand for healthy organs for transplant. I don't begrudge anyone a new heart or liver to save a life, as long as it doesn't cost someone else his life. Or my life.
This is why my feelings towards being an organ donor are ambivalent. When I go to the hospital, I want to be the most important person the doctor attending me is thinking about. I don't want him to be assessing the number of organs I might donate because it might influence his decisions about just when my life ends.
Are you an organ donor? Do you feel that it's possible that sometimes doctors make these pronouncements of death a bit prematurely? Do you think the possibility of organ harvesting and the need to do that quickly can influence how much effort is put into saving the patient's life?
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/kalamazoo-shooting-abigail-kopf-14-strong-willed-survivor/
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@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
9 Apr 16
I'm curious as to where you found this information as it's incorrect.
I found this when researching organ donation some time ago:
For more recent and up to date info I found this: http://www.tc.umn.edu/~parkx032/CY-DEADD.html
Organ harvesting is the practice of removing usable organs from a cadaver for transplantation. The process of organ harvesting is...
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@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
9 Apr 16
@Rollo1 From that same journal "An eagerness to procure viable organs for positive transplant outcomes must not be the guiding force in protocols that allow the administration of heparin to the potential NHBD. Heparin administration is supported for these donors within specific parameters."
i don't believe any medico would be so unethical as to bump his patients off with the use of Heparin simply in order to take the organs required.
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@AbbyGreenhill (45490)
• United States
29 Feb 16
I don't think anyone would want or need my old worn out body parts.
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@Tampa_girl7 (54741)
• United States
29 Feb 16
I am not a donor, because we had a bad experience with the doctors wanting to harvest, (I hate that word when used in this meaning) ,my brother-in-laws organs.
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@Jessicalynnt (50523)
• Centralia, Missouri
29 Feb 16
I can see it being hard to tell when someone is gone gone, because they can force the body to stay alive. Hard decisions there.
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@Marcyaz (35316)
• United States
29 Feb 16
I am not an organ donor and will not be one. When my husband passed and I had a call asking if they could harvest his organs I said NO definitely not and it was extremely upsetting to me that they would call when he had it on his drivers license he would not be a donor.
@celticeagle (190074)
• Boise, Idaho
29 Feb 16
Especially situations in the ER. Makes a person wonder.












