If you're a US Voter, have you ever considered voting Third Party?

@DWDavis (25797)
United States
March 27, 2016 9:11pm CST
Despite Bernie's good showing over the weekend, there is little doubt that unless the Democrat Party superdelegates turn on Hillary she will be the nominee from the Democrats. And unless something radical happens, Donald Trump will most likely be the nominee from the Republicans. That leaves me in a bind as I cannot see myself, in good conscience, voting for either candidate. Do I just leave my vote for President blank? Do I choose a Third Party candidate whose platform I mostly agree with? Do I write in "None of the Above?" Never in the 37 years since I've been old enough to vote have I found myself in such a conundrum. As I've seen elsewhere, how can I choose between the lesser of two evils without still choosing to support evil?
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@softbabe44 (5815)
• Vancouver, Washington
28 Mar 16
Between a rock and the hard place a dilemma when it comes to Hilary and Trump its a hard place to be what about Barry sanders he could lock it into place.
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@DWDavis (25797)
• United States
28 Mar 16
I don't think Hillary will lose to Sanders in the end. She has a pretty good lock on the superdelegates and with them and the delegate count she has now Sanders would need a lot of the supers to defect from the Hillary camp.
@DWDavis (25797)
• United States
29 Mar 16
@softbabe44 Take a look at Gary Johnson, the Libertarian candidate. Give some thought to the idea of voting third party. When people tell you a third party vote is a wasted vote, remind them that Abe Lincoln was a third party candidate.
• Vancouver, Washington
28 Mar 16
@DWDavis So what can we do n a lot of anything huh
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@LadyDuck (502729)
• Italy
28 Mar 16
I am pretty sure that the two candidates will be Hillary and Donald, this is a hard decision I know, but I know for sure the one I would never want to see as President of United States. We have enough hate in the world.
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@DWDavis (25797)
• United States
29 Mar 16
The difference in the hate between Donald and Hillary is that Donald shows his on the surface, while Hillary hides hers in well thought out rhetoric.
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@DWDavis (25797)
• United States
29 Mar 16
@LadyDuck Donald was born into wealth and has always had someone there to bail him out when he failed, which was often. He's got an arrogant and inflated sense of his own importance and has always gotten what he wants through bullying and intimidation. Those are the only tactics he understands. Those are not good qualities for a President. He is, as you wrote, not fit for the role.
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@LadyDuck (502729)
• Italy
29 Mar 16
@DWDavis Donald is so aggressive, he does not seem fit to be a President, he completely lack diplomacy.
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• United States
28 Mar 16
I agree with you DW. It is a conundrum for sure. From what I have seen I wouldnt be enthusiastic about any of it. Yes I would like to see something else. I wouldnt vote if I didnt support the candidate. Just me.
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• United States
29 Mar 16
@DWDavis I do as well, I think most thinking people are not happy with the choices available at this time DW.
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@DWDavis (25797)
• United States
29 Mar 16
I think this may be the year a well organized third party could make enough of a dent in the popular vote to earn some respect from the news media and a real place on the debate stage.
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@LeaPea2417 (40058)
• Toccoa, Georgia
29 Mar 16
I understand exactly how you feel. I am thinking about "writing in" a candidate if those two are the nominees.
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@DWDavis (25797)
• United States
29 Mar 16
@CoralLevang is contemplating a write-in campaign to elect me President. I'm not sure what the write-in rules are in Georgia. You can also look into the third party candidates. If enough people vote for the Libertarian Candidate (the only third party with even an outside shot at making a difference) it may just shake up the major parties enough to get some changes made.
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@DWDavis (25797)
• United States
29 Mar 16
@CoralLevang It would be interesting to see what would happen if my name came up on write in ballots in several states. I wonder if I'd get any mention in the media.
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• United States
29 Mar 16
I'm where you are! I so prefer voting for someone I like and feel comfortable with - so far not happening. I've never considered voting for a third party candidate.
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@DWDavis (25797)
• United States
29 Mar 16
I've been giving the idea of voting third party a lot of thought this year as I cannot see myself, in good conscience, voting for either of the front runners.
@JohnRoberts (109841)
• Los Angeles, California
28 Mar 16
The problem with voting third party is you are wasting a vote for all practical purposes. Bill Clinton should never have been president because Ross Perot split the Republican vote in 1992. Ralph Nader also damaged the Democratic vote when he ran third party. If you truly dislike Hillary Clinton, you can't waste the vote and have to vote against by casting with whomever represents the Republicans. If you truly dislike the Republican nominee, you can't waste a vote on Bernie or some third party. Yes, you have to decide between the lesser of two evils.
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@DWDavis (25797)
• United States
28 Mar 16
I respectfully disagree. By your reckoning, unless the polls showed the race to close to call come election day, everyone who votes for the projected loser is wasting their vote. As long as I vote my conscience, my vote is not wasted. Your argument is loved by the Democrat and Republican parties alike because it feeds into their desire to forever quell any real dissent among the voters. As for Ross Perot, polling data shows that he actually reduced Clinton's support more than he did Bush's by a ratio of 4 to 1, and Clinton still won. The margin of victory without Perot in the race would likely have been nearly 16 percentage points in Clinton's favor, handing Bush the worst election loss since FDR beat Herbert Hoover in 1932.
@JohnRoberts (109841)
• Los Angeles, California
28 Mar 16
@DWDavis You are incorrect about Perot. I have seen the hard numbers and done the math. Bush votes plus Perot votes easily defeats Clinton. The hard right conservatives went for Perot and the last person they would ever support was Clinton. Even at that Clinton's margin of victory over Bush wasn't that great. I understand voting your conscience. But do you seriously think a third party candidate stands a ghost of a chance? History says no. Woodrow Wilson should have never been elected as Taft should have been re-elected but Teddy R. ran third party splitting the Republican vote. Yes, your conscience may be appeased but is the distaste of Trump so great as to give a third party vote which is essentially a vote for Clinton? If you can live with that, then one is not in a position to complain about Clinton or whomever because you had your chance to prevent them from office and voting third party may be noble but not viable.
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@DWDavis (25797)
• United States
28 Mar 16
@JohnRoberts You are assuming all the Perot voters would have voted for Bush. Surveys of Perot voters before and after indicated this was not the case. While a good number of them may have voted for Bush, it would not enough to win him the election. Trump's negatives among almost every demographic group except angry middle class and low income whites are huge. His supporters are overwhelming white, non-college educated, opposed to immigration, and racially biased, according to a study of who is voting for Trump in the primaries and caucuses. While that may win him the Republican nomination it won't win him the general election. According to the latest average of national polling data, as of March 24, Clinton is leading Trump by just over 11 points, 50-38.8% In the meantime, the Libertarian Candidate is showing well for a third party at 11%. Even CNN, the Clinton News Network, has picked up on this story. With or without my vote, the Libertarian Party is likely to have its best showing in a long time, perhaps ever. It is not unheard of in our history for a third party to not only win the Presidency, but to ascend to become a major party and herald the end of a party that has lost the support of the people. The Republican Party was once such a party. America needs a viable third alternative to the two current parties. A choice between a fascist oligarchy controlled by corporate elites and a socialist oligarchy controlled by, surprise, those same corporate elites is really no choice at all. Whether Hillary or Donald win, it will still be the 1% who are really calling the shots and making sure the rest of us 99% are kept in our places.
• United States
28 Mar 16
This really is going to be a tough election year. I have never felt at such odds before. I know who I would like to see as President and who I would not like to see take office. As you can see, I do not discuss my preferences. It is easier to do this to avoid a heated discussion.
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@irishidid (8687)
• United States
28 Mar 16
I guess it is up to the conscience of the person. No matter who moves into the white house we'll all survive.
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@DWDavis (25797)
• United States
29 Mar 16
We survived Grant (arguably one of the worst Presidents ever), Hoover (his hands-off approach to Wall Street set up the conditions that led to the Great Depression), and Carter (whose answer to America's economic woes was turn down the thermostat, put on a sweater, and get used to a lower standard of living). I'm sure we'll survive Hillary or Donald, though I don't look forward to what it is we'll have to survive through.
@jstory07 (148764)
• Roseburg, Oregon
28 Mar 16
I have never voted third party before.
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@DWDavis (25797)
• United States
28 Mar 16
Would you consider it if the two main party candidates were totally unpalatable to you?
@GreatMartin (23670)
• Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
28 Mar 16
Only your first time??? You are lucky!!!
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@DWDavis (25797)
• United States
28 Mar 16
My first Presidential election was in 1980. 80, 84, and 88 were pretty easy for me to decide. 92 not so much. 96. 00, 04, 08, and 12 were more of a challenge. This year, choosing who to vote for will be more of a challenge than ever.
@Tampa_girl7 (54730)
• United States
28 Mar 16
It is a stinking mess
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@DWDavis (25797)
• United States
29 Mar 16
Have you checked into your state's rules on write-in candidates? Would you ever consider writing in your vote?
@sol_cee (38669)
• Philippines
28 Mar 16
It's like choosing between the devil and the deep blue sea.
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@DWDavis (25797)
• United States
29 Mar 16
I see it as more between the devil and his nasty, hateful ex-wife,
@teamfreak16 (43655)
• Denver, Colorado
28 Mar 16
Until someone with a chance of winning runs, I figure that would essentially be a vote for the person I'm voting against.
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@DWDavis (25797)
• United States
29 Mar 16
Thinking that a third party vote is a wasted vote is exactly what the Democrat and Republican Party want you to think. It helps them keep their Binopoly on the electorate.