Still unable to use compatible inks with my Epson printer

Epson PX830FWD
@Asylum (47893)
Manchester, England
April 17, 2016 2:45pm CST
All printer manufacturers produce their own inks for use for each product, but these are usually very highly priced. As an alternative many people use compatible ink cartridges, which are available at far lower and economical prices. Recently Epson released a firmware update that disabled all but their own brand of inks for use in their printers, which is a very dubious business practice. Since people have already paid good money for these printers, it is outrageous that the company should attempt to extort money in this way. I have been searching for months now to find some way of downgrading the firmware, which does not seem possible. There is a company that boasts the ability to do this, but the claim is unfounded. Compatible inks are available for as little as £12 per set, but genuine Epson cartridges vary from £62 to over £95 per set.
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• United States
18 Apr 16
This seems unethical to me. Why is it legal? Makes no sense. Competition is a good thing. This practice is not.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
18 Apr 16
@ElizabethWallace I will be one of those ex customers as well. I would never buy another product from Epson because they cannot be trusted.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
18 Apr 16
The legality seems doubtful to me as well, but it has been done and they appear to have got away with it.
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• United States
18 Apr 16
@Asylum Here too, and it really bothers me. I feel this way about much in the new technology field. Don't they understand that if they make us hate them, we will find others to sell us these products?
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• United States
17 Apr 16
That is outrageous. I would get rid of it and buy a different printer.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
18 Apr 16
It would not alter the fact that I have spent over £200 on a high specification printer that I now virtually unusable.
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@akalinus (40509)
• United States
18 Apr 16
Me too. They will never get my business again.
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• United States
18 Apr 16
@Asylum that hurts! Owwwwwwch!!!
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
17 Apr 16
I never allow any updates from HP to my printer, but I still got skunked on some remanufactured cartridges that I bought from Amazon. The printer knew they were not genuine HP and rejected them. I have used cheap cartridges before with no problem. I am wondering if they manage to update when I wasn't paying attention or whether this was just a fluke and another vendor's cartridges might work.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
17 Apr 16
To the best of my knowledge only Epson have done this, so the problem is most likely the cartridges their self.
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@akalinus (40509)
• United States
18 Apr 16
My ink also came from Amazon. It worked fine on the Epson until the firmware update. I think Epson screwed themselves, so to speak.
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@BelleStarr (61047)
• United States
19 Apr 16
I have an HP Printer but I always use their brand of ink, that is just me.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
19 Apr 16
I have a small HP printer that I bought to print cards with and I use their inks with it. Of course it is a two cartridge printer, whereas my Epson takes a set of six cartridges which are highly priced.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
20 Apr 16
@BelleStarr I use,colour quite often.
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@BelleStarr (61047)
• United States
20 Apr 16
@Asylum Mine takes 4 cartridges but I rarely use the color.
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@amadeo (111948)
• United States
17 Apr 16
I have an Epson printer.But rarely used it.I only bought refill one time.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
17 Apr 16
Epson only became so popular due to the availability of cheap inks.
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@amadeo (111948)
• United States
25 Apr 16
@Asylum yes,your right .The refill I got was very cheap.Forgot how much that it was.It has been awhile
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
25 Apr 16
@amadeo The compatibles make printing very economical, whereas manufacturer's inks are expensive.
@pgntwo (22408)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
17 Apr 16
Like the coffee pod, the device itself is a loss maker, with the consumables being sold at grossly inflated prices. Heinous.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
17 Apr 16
It is blatant extortion. I paid several hundred pounds for that printer and now they have forcibly locked it so that I either throw it away or pay them ridiculous ink prices. This is no better than the notorious ransomware.
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@pgntwo (22408)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
17 Apr 16
@Asylum Very much so.
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• United States
18 Apr 16
@Asylum It is very much like the ransomware that hackers install to extort money from computer owners.
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@mkg123 (256)
• India
19 Apr 16
which model of epson printer do you have ?
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
19 Apr 16
It is a PX830FWD.
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@marlina (154166)
• Canada
17 Apr 16
I have a Brother machine and never tried another kind of ink, but it is very expensive. That's where they make their money, not with selling the printer.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
17 Apr 16
The only reason that Epson were so popular was the abundance of cheap inks.
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@akalinus (40509)
• United States
18 Apr 16
I have an Epson XP-400. I have bought ink on the Internet. There is no genuine ink for it available and I think they knew that when they sold it to me. When I ran out of ink the last time, I got a notice that I can only use genuine ink for my model and they will not accept my Internet ink. I am so upset. I need to get another printer and it will not be an Epson.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
18 Apr 16
This has made Epson so unpopular that I am surprised that they are still in business.
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• Midland, Michigan
20 Apr 16
Certain manufacturers here in the States try to do the same as your printer there. I've been getting my ink at a reduced rate for several years at a small shop called Cartridge World. They carry refills for most popular printers sold here. At first when I had a dell printer, the printer wouldn't recognize the replacement ink even if it was a new one. It still worked, but the printer constantly told me it was out of ink. Now I have a HP printer and it works great with the refillable cartridges. Many here come with a black cartridge and one for color, but they don't dry up at the same rate. I hope you figure out a way around their update that isn't expensive.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
20 Apr 16
There does not appear to be a way around it.
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• Dallas, Texas
25 Apr 16
Do you think this would be the same case scenario if you owned an HP? Reason being, I own an HP myself and use the HP cartridges and yes, they are expensive. Good luck with that firmware downgrade. Here is an article link as to why HP in particular don't recommend refilling inkjet cartridges due to their print quality diminishing with subsequent refills:
You’ve undoubtedly heard or seen advertisements for businesses that promise to save you money on printer ink cartridges -- one problem, though, according to HP: Refilling doesn't work.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
25 Apr 16
I honestly cannot envisage HP resorting to such tactics. I have a basic HP printer myself, which I use for printing greetings cards.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
25 Apr 16
@lookatdesktop Those will not work unless the new firmware can be removed.
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• Dallas, Texas
25 Apr 16
@Asylum , Here is a link to an Ebay article about the top 7 refillable ink cartridges:
The cost of printer ink cartridges seems to rise every year. Since many businesses and households use printers, many people look for alternative ways to save money on ink cartridges. Refillable ink cartridges...
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@Mike197602 (15487)
• United Kingdom
18 Apr 16
Don't know if it is the done thing now but I used to take printer cartridges in to a shop near me to get them refilled. Maybe with the advance in technology that wouldn't be doable?
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@miniam (9154)
• Bern, Switzerland
17 Apr 16
And im really struggling with my printer scanner here since 2 hours, driving me crazy really.Bought it 5 months ago but never used,now i have something i need urgently,seems it`s refusing to work
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
17 Apr 16
Printers should not be a problem in that respect.
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@Hannihar (129499)
• Israel
26 Oct 17
Yes, many people do not buy the original ink for their printers and save by buying the one that is not original. My technician only wants me to buy original ink for my printer. I have an HP. I agree with him on that because the other ink I do not think is as good as the original. He told me why once and I cannot remember but it made sense.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
26 Oct 17
I have always found compatible inks to be decent quality.
@Hannihar (129499)
• Israel
26 Oct 17
@Asylum Koalemos, whatever works for you.
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