Do we get what we deserve?

Corruption is minimal in advanced societies unlike in poorer countries where cunning leaders still manipulate the system. Greed is like a cancer within society that shows no bounds. Justice is almost absent in many countries or it is politically manipulated to "fix" opponents. So democracy is a sham in those countries - siva

@Shiva49 it is the evil that is making things bad and unfortunately at this time there is more evil than good in this world.

@RasmaSandra Im sure there is also good somewhere,but bad is much more than good,wish it was other way round.

@Shiva49 I am not giving up hope as the prophecies are all coming true and The Divine One knows the best time to intervene. He is concerned with every one on earth and I am mainly concerned about me and a few people.

Though we all desire there will be divine intervention, even retribution, many generations have come and gone hoping against hope all their lives. And I do hope they have received final justice. I see around me even the devout looking away from inconvenient truths to the extent of being hypocrites - siva

@1hopefulman All is well that ends well. I know you have your reasons. For me I just do my best and then leave it at that. If there is nothing further, so be it. A clear conscience is the best reward for me - siva

At least in the US people are able to question and get answers. In few supposed democracies people do not even bother to ask as they know all leaders are same feathering their own nests. Hope America, the bastion of free world, is able to show others the way forward. Let the rich become richer but not at the cost of the poor - siva

@Shiva49 That is so right Siva. More transparency is happening in the world today and it is needed. Little by little ..I hope for all of us.

@Shiva49 You are most correct Siva about the America.

We should not lose hope and the plot. There are tremendous injustices all around us that we take for granted and as par for the course. We should fine tune our democratic process so that we move towards justice for all. Even the whole system seems to work against the common folks but there is more awareness now as financial institutions are removing the veil of secrecy of money flowing across countries; some are illegal hoardings, others to avoid taxes. We need a clean-up of the system and modern technology can help - siva

@Shiva49 The greed of the common man will be the collective man's downfall. I heard on the radio just this morning that China are now making 24 million cars a year, and the second biggest producer is still America, at 12 million cars a year. With that type of production rate, what hope have we for global warming, if that is really happening to us, as it appears to be? Everybody wants what everyone else has got, as to getting what we deserve, I would not like to be the judge on that one!

@innertalks I do hope electric cars can provide us the escape hatch and also cheap electricity from renewable energy . I read about breakthroughs in conversion efficiency of sunlight into electricity from the now below 20% to 30%. "Engineers just created the most efficient solar cells ever. Australian engineers have taken us closer than ever before to the theoretical limits of sunlight-to-electricity conversion, by building photovoltaic cells that can harvest an unheard-of 34.5 percent of the Sun's energy without concentrators - setting a new world record. The previous record of 24 percent was held by a large, 800-square centimetre solar cell produced by a US company, but these new photovoltaic cells aren't only more efficient, they also cover far less surface area, which means they're going to make solar power even cheaper." Hopefully, we can be saved at the nick of time! We need global consensus on basic issues but it has always been "getting even". We have all sinned, so let us turn a new leaf than point accusing fingers. Today I heard America is going to supply all the weapons they need to Vietnam to counter China! Who is behind this move and what is the real reason for the sudden concern for the erstwhile enemy! siva

Yeah, we become cynical as few run away with the spoils denying others their just dues. No harm the rich becoming richer but not at the cost of the poor. After all, no material possessions can be taken away from here. So cannot understand the need to accumulate till the last breath - siva

I wonder what is our role in the whole creative process? Are we indispensable like some think we are? Then, why are we more selfish than others though aware of the Creator and even think we are co-creators? Then what is progress - is it material comforts only? We seem to know the cost of everything at our fingertips but the value of nothing! Are we thinking more in terms of humanity or as individual parts with one god pitted against another? It is all predestined and we just go through the motions, not even foot solders? What will keep us going as a species with a role to make this a better place? Or we just cannot do by ourselves and need higher intervention? I think the jury is still out or maybe permanently! siva

@Shiva49 That's a lot of big ticketed questions there siva. Our role like all roles is simply to be our self in it all. Each part has their own part to play, and when they do so, they are also contributing to the whole process, but when they do not, they are missing being themselves, (their real selves) and so working in one way against the collective goals of God, but even this works for God in the end, as anything working against him is also still indirectly working for him, in a sense. Nothing can work against God. How is this possible? It is because this part, seemingly working against God, does not know that it even though it is not being its real self, all it does, even being its false self, still teaches or grows the whole in one way or another, even if it is only to dismiss parts of the journey that do not work, in the grand scheme of things, as all other parts also see the results of these parts not working, and so can decide to work better to be themselves, by not doing these things, these others are doing. Free will is a creative process that allows creation to move past its initial position into new vistas of itself, and when we are joining God in being our part in it all, we are part of this creative process then freely, but when we act against ourselves and God we too still add to it, but not quiet in the same way, so generously in the sense that we grow it consciously rather than just unconsciously automaton likely. Our negativeness still helps the positiveness, because positiveness always gains something from everything else too.

@innertalks Good points Steve, thanks. Yes, we have to believe that every action has a say in the final product - even those we consider as negative. They should go towards strengthening the core of the creative journey. Just like in a drama/film there should be villains especially in James Bond films! The Bard's words ring in me - "All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players". In fact, the "villains" play crucial roles too taking in the mantle and showing others how not to be like them. That re-enforces the classic duality in creation to maintain the balance. We have an innate awareness and few try to understand more about life and reach a different realm adding to the variety. Everyone does not want to be run of the mill - siva