Gay men versus nongaymen and what about bi's?
By GreatMartin
@GreatMartin (23670)
Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
August 15, 2016 10:01am CST
There are many discussions here about parents, wives, husbands, kids, etc., all in a way, unknowingly perhaps, flaunting heterosexuality. In a way I expect to hear 'as long as you don't shove it in our face' when I write a gay based discussion and yes I expect a 'christian' put down as happened in my last discussion BUT if I write 1 or 2 gay oriented discussions out of the 100 I may write I feel as long as I keep it PG rated or less there should be no complaints so here goes
Having been (and still am) active in the gay world for 80 years and most of my life surrounded by nongay people I came to the conclusion many years ago that there is no difference between the two except the gender they have sex with. (I am not referencing women here--either gay or nongay--because 'one's from Venus, the other from Mars' while ALL the men are from the same planet! :o) )
There are certain stereotypes attributed to the gay man that can also be found in the nongay man and the reverse. Not all gay men are feminine--in fact most aren't--just as not all nongay men are macho.
Many gay men are award winning athletes just as many nongay aren't. Liking show tunes doesn't make you a gay man. Abusing someone is not only in the nongay mens orbit.
Are gay men more promiscuous than nongay men? I think so only because it is more readily available, less game playing takes place and there are more establishments out there for gay men to play.
Do gay men commit more adultery--can you apply that term to gay men?-- than nongay men? Okay, here is where I'll probably get bashed by my 'community'--it has been MY experience which consists of knowing many long termed gay relationships (and having worked in an XXX rated bookstore where one member of a couple would 'die' when they walked in and saw me) that I have never known a gay couple that were 100% physically faithful to each other.
Am I being a cynic or a realist when I hear a gay man say that he and his partner are 100% faithful and I think either they aren't having any sex or are lying?
The only difference I have seen between gay and nongay men is the sexual aspect. There are good and bad in both types--there are 'playas' and lovers in both--some lie, some don't, some steal some don't, some physically fight some don't (though it has been proven that there are more fights in nongay bars than in gay bars), some are tender, caring concerned while others aren't--some make good parents, some don't, some dye their hair, some don't, some try to look younger, some don't and the list goes on.
Show me something a gay man does and I will show you a nongay man who does it, too, and this can be regarding emotions also.
Now on to another subject--bisexuality--which I really don't understand. Most men I have known who say they are 'bi' have more sex with men than women--a married man who has sex with his wife will claim he is bi and yet every encounter outside of his marriage is with a male--most men I have known (and know) whether married or not, have had sex with a woman once or 4 times, say they are gay. How often does a man leave his male lover for a female? In way more cases it is the latter.
I remember a line from a movie "Only gay men say they are bi."
Having been (and still am) active in the gay world for 80 years and most of my life surrounded by nongay people I came to the conclusion many years ago that there is no difference between the two except the gender they have sex with. (I am not referencing women here--either gay or nongay--because 'one's from Venus, the other from Mars' while ALL the men are from the same planet! :o) )
There are certain stereotypes attributed to the gay man that can also be found in the nongay man and the reverse. Not all gay men are feminine--in fact most aren't--just as not all nongay men are macho.
Many gay men are award winning athletes just as many nongay aren't. Liking show tunes doesn't make you a gay man. Abusing someone is not only in the nongay mens orbit.
Are gay men more promiscuous than nongay men? I think so only because it is more readily available, less game playing takes place and there are more establishments out there for gay men to play.
Do gay men commit more adultery--can you apply that term to gay men?-- than nongay men? Okay, here is where I'll probably get bashed by my 'community'--it has been MY experience which consists of knowing many long termed gay relationships (and having worked in an XXX rated bookstore where one member of a couple would 'die' when they walked in and saw me) that I have never known a gay couple that were 100% physically faithful to each other.
Am I being a cynic or a realist when I hear a gay man say that he and his partner are 100% faithful and I think either they aren't having any sex or are lying?
The only difference I have seen between gay and nongay men is the sexual aspect. There are good and bad in both types--there are 'playas' and lovers in both--some lie, some don't, some steal some don't, some physically fight some don't (though it has been proven that there are more fights in nongay bars than in gay bars), some are tender, caring concerned while others aren't--some make good parents, some don't, some dye their hair, some don't, some try to look younger, some don't and the list goes on.
Show me something a gay man does and I will show you a nongay man who does it, too, and this can be regarding emotions also.
Now on to another subject--bisexuality--which I really don't understand. Most men I have known who say they are 'bi' have more sex with men than women--a married man who has sex with his wife will claim he is bi and yet every encounter outside of his marriage is with a male--most men I have known (and know) whether married or not, have had sex with a woman once or 4 times, say they are gay. How often does a man leave his male lover for a female? In way more cases it is the latter.
I remember a line from a movie "Only gay men say they are bi."5 people like this
4 responses
@celticeagle (189988)
• Boise, Idaho
16 Aug 16
I had never been around gay people until I started working for a answering service back in the 80's. I met my first one there. He was the sweetest fellow. He was going to college and was always decked out in the nicest clothes. He used to help me shop too. I helped him write a paper for a class he was taking. I helped him write it, typed it up for him and he got an A on it. He was very passionate and emotional. He was forever getting hurt because he was so sensitive. He had such a great sense of humor and he was such fun to hang out with. We had some great times.
I think 'bi' is a cop out.
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@GreatMartin (23670)
• Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
16 Aug 16
The thing is most people don't know when they are 'around' gay people because they look, act just like everyone else! :O)
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@GreatMartin (23670)
• Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
17 Aug 16
@celticeagle Sometimes not even that! :O)
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@Letranknight2015 (52665)
• Philippines
15 Aug 16
They're all human for all I care, they are good and bad too, it doesn't make any difference.
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@GreatMartin (23670)
• Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
16 Aug 16
You are in the minority--wish there were more like you.
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@Letranknight2015 (52665)
• Philippines
16 Aug 16
@GreatMartin we got gays and lesbians here that does the same bad things as the straight people...despite of being treated equally.
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@GreatMartin (23670)
• Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
16 Aug 16
@Letranknight2015 People are people--good and bad
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@GreatMartin (23670)
• Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
18 Aug 16
I don't--it makes gay life fun, interesting and ever changing--physical faithfulness is meaningless--I could go on for hours about this but gay men are more open and honest about their being physical unfaithfulness many even agreeing to sharing the experience.
@GreatMartin (23670)
• Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
16 Aug 16
Generally I am just here Monday when I post a new discussion and over the weekend when I try to respond.
Sadly some 'people' think they are better than other 'people'.
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