They Tried Not Honoring The 20% Discount

Picture of the restaurant we dined last night, Valentine's day.
@SIMPLYD (90717)
Philippines
February 15, 2017 4:44am CST
Yesterday, I made a reservation at a famous restaurant for a table of eight (8). So, at 7:00 we were there dining at the private room we reserved. So, when father-in-law asked for the bill, the waitress asked for the senior citizen cards of my parents-in-law and aunt-in-law, because senior citizens here in the Philippines have 20% discount one dish that they would order in a restaurant. But she came back saying that it was the decision of the cashier that because we made a reservation, which was downstairs in a private room , since my father-in –law can’t climb the stairs where the main dining room is , the 20% discount cannot be honored anymore. Thus, brother-in-law went to the cashier and told her that had they known that they won’t be honoring the 20% discount of the senior citizens because of the reservation, then we would have not dined there. He also reiterated that there wasn’t a provision in the Senior Citizen Act that any reservation in a restaurant will make the establishment , not honor the discount. He also told her that he will pay all the bill without the seniors’ discounts, but he will report this establishment for not honoring it. Further he said that although applying the 20% discounts would be minimal compared to the overall bill we had, what he would like is at least honor the seniors by giving their due discounts. The cashier relented and applied the 20% discount on 3 of the dishes ordered, since they were 3 seniors. Sometimes, we should really be assertive of our rights or privileges. What about in your place, do seniors have this privilege too?
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
15 Feb 17
It is not commonplace here, but some places do offer discounts for senior citizens.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
15 Feb 17
@garymarsh6 I do know a barber that gives a discount and I enjoy free travel in Greater Manchester, but that is all that I am aware of.
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@garymarsh6 (23978)
• United Kingdom
15 Feb 17
OH Mr I think if you spent a bit more time in the country you would realise that there are lots of places that offer discounts to pensioners. B&Q 10% off on Wednesdays. Some restaurants and barbers have special pensioner days. Rail travel you can save a third off even discounted or free bus travel. I am sure if you go to amusement parks they would give you a discount to go on the scary rides too!
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@garymarsh6 (23978)
• United Kingdom
15 Feb 17
@Asylum I get an even better discount as I cut my own hair or what is left of it. Have done for years when the prices were going up each time but there was less to cut. So I go up and over and from side to side all on a number two grade clipper!
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@Happy2BeMe (99353)
• Canada
15 Feb 17
Glad they decided to honor the discount. It never should have been an issue in the first place. Most restaurants and stores here offer a senior discount.
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
16 Feb 17
That is true. It should never have been an issue had they didn't try to honor the senior citizen discount. That is good to hear that the restaurants and store also offer senior discount. I suppose those seniors have their senior cards?
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@Happy2BeMe (99353)
• Canada
16 Feb 17
@SIMPLYD yes they do so that they don't miss out on the discounts being offered.
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
16 Feb 17
@Happy2BeMe I am happy to know that.
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@MarymargII (12422)
• Toronto, Ontario
15 Feb 17
i totally agree with your brother-n-law! People take advantage all the time! I'm glad they gave in and honoured them!
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
16 Feb 17
Perhaps the cashier is thinking that we will not mind if the seniors' cards weren't honored becausel it was dismal to the whole amount of what we paid. Some people can really be trying sometimes.
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
17 Feb 17
@MarymargII That';s true.
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@MarymargII (12422)
• Toronto, Ontario
16 Feb 17
@SIMPLYD But it is the principal of it all plus they should care if the customer is happy or not!
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@sunrisefan (28524)
• Philippines
15 Feb 17
You know what? A manager of a cooperative store in a university here was imprisoned for several months and made to pay thousands in fines and damages. His fault? He did not give senior citizen's discount to a consumer/member who bought a bottle of Sprite on several instances. The consumer/member reported the matter to DTI and filed a case against the manager thus the manager was meted with imprisonment. He was respected and protected by his co-prisoners though in the city hail. I'm not joking and this is true.
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
16 Feb 17
Is it I suppose to be DIDN'T, as you said [/u]He did give senior citizen's discount, [u] , right ? See, so it is true indeed that an establishment can be slapped penalty or in this case imprisoned ( I find it so heavy penalty) if they don't honor the discount due to a senior citizen. Though maybe this one was given imprisonment because it was done on several instances. But I wonder, why that senior citizen just filed a complaint after many instances? Maybe one or two will still be not worth reporting. I suppose he was imprisoned for just a day or two?
@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
16 Feb 17
@sunrisefan Oh , that long! I think that served as a hard lesson to him. But I think the complainant should have talked to him about it first. If he still won't give the discount, then he can file the case. That caught the manager so surprised. Poor manager.
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@sunrisefan (28524)
• Philippines
16 Feb 17
@SIMPLYD He was imprisoned for several months - I think more or less 6 months. Some of my friends say that the one who reported and filed a case is a usual "trouble maker".
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@shaynas (5486)
• India
15 Feb 17
Your brother in law did the right thing, we must speak for our rights. Here, we don't have any such privilege as yet.
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
16 Feb 17
Had he not been with us, I will do the talking with the cashier, because we know that restaurants were explicitly stated in the said Republic Act for Senior Citizens. Aren't senior citizens there given some privileges at all?
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@shaynas (5486)
• India
16 Feb 17
@SIMPLYD It's always good to speak for our rights. We have privileges in government facilities, like train travel and all, but not in private places.
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
17 Feb 17
@shaynas Here too, it's like that.
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• Agra, India
15 Feb 17
Sometimes this us the real demand of time...things really work out this way many times
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
16 Feb 17
What do you mean? Can yo please elucidate?
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
16 Feb 17
@amitkokiladitya I agree. They thought all seniors are submissive. They just wait when I become a senior citizen- I would be the most aggressive senior citizen there is .
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• Agra, India
16 Feb 17
@SIMPLYD I mean some people try to act smart and keep people devoid of their rights.. It is only when you speak aloud they open their eyes and ears to you.
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@allknowing (153544)
• India
15 Feb 17
Don't you know rules are meant to be broken. Sad that you had to fight for your rights. What's going on?
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@allknowing (153544)
• India
16 Feb 17
@SIMPLYD But why give up a privilege even if one can afford?
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
16 Feb 17
@allknowing Well for those who can afford, they don't have to ask for discounts. My father doesn't ask discounts from vans when they go to the city, He said it's minimal and he considers it as help to the drivers.
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
16 Feb 17
That is true. Perhaps the cashier was thinking that we won't mind, because we can even afford to eat in their expensive restaurant.
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@topffer (42155)
• France
15 Feb 17
I do not know any "famous" restaurant offering a discount for seniors, but I am not yet a senior. I know they can buy cards to get discounts on transportation and hotels, but it is private offers, not a law.
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@topffer (42155)
• France
16 Feb 17
@SIMPLYD The only discount they have is a discount on their local taxes, for those having a low income. There is no official senior card.
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
16 Feb 17
So there they don't have this senior citizen discount nor issue a senior citizen card in your place.
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@LadyDuck (502215)
• Italy
15 Feb 17
We have no seniors privileges at the restaurants, but we have 50% discount on transportation (trains and buses).
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
16 Feb 17
Wow, that is even nicer because you have 50% discount on transportation. That is very much needed especially for those seniors who frequently travels to visit their children living far from them
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
16 Feb 17
@LadyDuck What about those seniors with cars? Can't they be given discounts on their car's gasoline?
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@LadyDuck (502215)
• Italy
16 Feb 17
@SIMPLYD Most people have the car here, even those who are 70 or 80 years old, but it is nice to offer a 50% discount to the seniors. I do not drive, so I can profit of this.
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@just4him (323168)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
15 Feb 17
It isn't a law, but there are many places that do give senior discounts. I always ask for it when I go to a certain eat in restaurant.
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
16 Feb 17
Here it is a Republic Act for senior citizens. That's why restaurants and pharmacies follow this. Although, some restaurants don't follow this, although all pharmacies do.
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
16 Feb 17
@just4him Yes. thank you .
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@just4him (323168)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
16 Feb 17
@SIMPLYD I'm glad you were able to get the discount.
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@josie_ (10033)
• Philippines
15 Feb 17
Just got my senior card and I haven't any problems so far. These establishment shouldn't make it hard for elder people to get their discount since the gov't will reimburse through tax rebates. They don't lose anything. To ask an old person to climb up the stairs just to get a discount is unconscionable.
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
16 Feb 17
So it's how these discounts are being compensated. Then they really should give the seniors their due discounts. I hope it isn't that way with our seniors. They can take the elevators in malls if they want to eat in the other floors' restaurants.
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
16 Feb 17
@josie_ I do agree that for smaller stores don't honor that. So the seniors should know what stores to patronize. In the Generics pharmacy, where some medicines of my in-laws would be bought, there are a lot of senior cards forgotten by the seniors .
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@josie_ (10033)
• Philippines
16 Feb 17
@SIMPLYD _Most big and well known business establishment follow the law. It's the less known and smaller ones who don't. Usually we just shrug our shoulders and pay the bill to avoid the hassle and arguments.
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@ilocosboy (45155)
• Philippines
15 Feb 17
that is right, we should fight for the rights of every people, 20 percent is applicable to the senior citizens
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
16 Feb 17
And since the seniors cannot do it for themselves, we have to do it ourselves. What is 20% anyway. I know those pharmacies have already jacked-up their medicines' prices so then the 20% discount is applied, it is still with a profit.
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
16 Feb 17
@ilocosboy So, were they penalized? That's good. One case would be an opener already to ther other pharmacies.
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@ilocosboy (45155)
• Philippines
16 Feb 17
@SIMPLYD one pharmacy in our city was bought to court because of not honoring senior citizens discount
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@syeow1 (5138)
• India
15 Feb 17
In my country Senior citizens did not get discount but get respect..
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
16 Feb 17
Well at least the seniors are respected there too. Here, seniors are always given due respect. But some seniors can be abusive of their rights sometimes.
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@syeow1 (5138)
• India
16 Feb 17
@SIMPLYD oh no..
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@sans224 (1803)
15 Feb 17
thats a good previlage. i respect your country's respect to the elders. we dont have it yet.
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
16 Feb 17
From what country are you, my friend? So, there's none like this yet.
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
16 Feb 17
@sans224 Well, at least they get some discounts. Maybe the government should give them more privileges.
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@sans224 (1803)
16 Feb 17
@SIMPLYD i'm from india. we have travel discounts here for seniors. but nothing like this
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@jstory07 (148731)
• Roseburg, Oregon
21 Feb 17
There are some places where you can get the senior discount and some where you can not.
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
21 Feb 17
Yes, sometimes it's true here also. Some restaurants (even the big ones) won't honor senior cards and I know seniors avoid them.
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
21 Feb 17
@jstory07 Yes.
@jstory07 (148731)
• Roseburg, Oregon
21 Feb 17
@SIMPLYDIt is best to go to places that allow the discount.
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@garymarsh6 (23978)
• United Kingdom
15 Feb 17
Yes there are discounts for pensioners here. One large hardware store discounts things on a Wednesday for pensioners, Cheap or free travel on the buses and trains. No cost of medicines once you reach pension age. Some restaurants and hair dressers have pensioners days where they can eat or have their hair cut cheaper.
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
16 Feb 17
Wow, it is so nice to be living here because you know that when you become seniors you will be accorded these nice privileges. No cost for medicine too, would be a great help to the pensioners. How nice that restaurants and even hair dressers have pensioners day where their foods and services respectively are cheaper.
@HazySue (39265)
• Gouverneur, New York
16 Feb 17
In some places there is a discount for seniors. I can't believe they tried to get out of giving the discount. I think I would not be going back there. I am glad your brother-in-law stood up for his rights.
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
17 Feb 17
That is nice to know. So, you have been here already?
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
18 Feb 17
@HazySue me too.
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@HazySue (39265)
• Gouverneur, New York
17 Feb 17
@SIMPLYD no, I am just saying that if I had I wouldn't be going back. Any place that doesn't do what is right is not a place I want to frequent.
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@brokenbee (11937)
• Philippines
15 Feb 17
Yes, that is the right thing to do... The seniors should enjoy that privilege... But what I experienced last Sunday was different. Although the senior citizen has the right for a 20% discount, she should show her ID to avail it at the bus. Her companions were so ungrateful even if the bus conductor had already given her the discount even without the ID. They still wanted not to pay for the kids who are already more than 6 years of age. It's good the bus conductor was calm in dealing with those passengers.
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
16 Feb 17
Some senior citizens can indeed be abusive and inconsiderate. They would insist what they think is right when it is not already right. So, they didn't pay for the kids?
@sunrisefan (28524)
• Philippines
16 Feb 17
It would have been nice if you volunteered to pay for the kids, Ms. Arbie hehehe!!
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@Kandae11 (57233)
15 Feb 17
I wonder why the excuse of not honoring it because of the reservation , -- doesn't make sense to me.
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
16 Feb 17
Precisely. That's what was refuted by my brother-in-law.
15 Feb 17
Yes we need to stand firmly for our rights.In India there is no such provision for senior citizens in restauranst but they do get concession in bus and train tickets.
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@SIMPLYD (90717)
• Philippines
16 Feb 17
AT least there the seniors are also given discounts. What bout medicines and hospital care?