Germany's Valley of the Clueless

TV-tower Dresden
@MALUSE (69388)
Germany
March 5, 2017 12:05pm CST
Going up the river Elbe on a paddle-steamer ship from the city of Dresden, capital of the Land of Saxony, in the direction of the Czech border one passes a transmitting tower for television and radio broadcast. Its shape was inspired by a champagne glass or so it's said. It's 252 metres high. It was the second highest building in the former GDR (German Democratic Republic) after the TV tower in Berlin which is 368 metres high. Why should anyone be interested in this tower? Who cares for No 2? Ah, there's more to this tower than meets the eye. This tower was (in)famous for what it did NOT do. You may think that the task of a transmitting tower for television and radio broadcast is to transmit. This is correct in theory, of course, but in the case of this tower it wasn't in practise. It did NOT transmit the channels from West Germany. The citizens living in the middle of the GDR were near enough to Berlin, meaning West Berlin, from where they could get the channels from West Germany. This was also true for the ones living near the German-German border. The north east and the south east, however, were too far away and were thusly completely cut off from the news from 'the free world'. They had no idea what was going on. They lived in the 'Valley of the Clueless'. Some technically talented Ossis (nickname for the citizens of the east. East = Osten) turned the antennae on their roofs so that they could get programmes from Western Germany. But that was dangerous. Especially in the 1950s and 1960s viewers of Western TV were often denounced by patriotic Stasi (state security) neighbours. By the 1980s, the authorities gave in and even tolerated the existence of communal antennae which enabled neighbourhoods to watch Western channels as well. Clueless Ossis were seen as positive by many Wessis (nickname for the citizens of West Germany). They used to send parcels to their poor brethren and sisters in the GDR. We also did this regularly. Ossis living near the border knew what one could buy in West Germany, they knew the TV ads by heart. Many forgot that one had to work for one's salary in West Germany, too, and demanded expensive presents and were miffed when their Wessi relatives told them that they were too expensive. Ossis from the two valleys of the clueless (about 15% of the population) were more grateful. They were just happy to get something at all. All this must sound completely crazy for people who've never had anything to do with the two Germanys. And yet, it was the reality for 40 years. --- photo: google
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@Ronrybs (17927)
• London, England
5 Mar 17
I used to wonder about those in the east and west watching each others TV programmes. I suppose that if you get the idea that the west is paved with gold, then I'd be cheesed off, too!
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@pgntwo (22408)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
5 Mar 17
@MALUSE Yes. I am trying not to...
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@MALUSE (69388)
• Germany
5 Mar 17
The whole situation is bizarre and difficult to understand for outsiders. Imagine living in a state for 40 years which then suddenly disappears.
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@Ronrybs (17927)
• London, England
5 Mar 17
@MALUSE @pgntwo Yes, as pgn says, it is something we are being forced to think about since last Summer
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@JohnRoberts (109848)
• Los Angeles, California
5 Mar 17
It's a picaresque view ans the tower looks visually appealing. I saw the movie The Lives of Others which touched on the Stasi.
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@MALUSE (69388)
• Germany
5 Mar 17
That is a good film!
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
5 Mar 17
This does not sound crazy at all, forced segregation creates a rather unique society. I love the title of Valley of the Clueless.
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@Poppylicious (11133)
5 Mar 17
I love these stories of what it was like for people to live in these countries back then. I still fondly remember my first visit to Czechoslovakia {as it was then} in 1992. It was such an innocent place, and such a privilege to visit and talk to people. It must have been hard for families separated by the East/West divide in Germany.
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@andriaperry (116860)
• Anniston, Alabama
5 Mar 17
I never knew all of that, thanks for sharing. I like the photo
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@fishtiger58 (29823)
• Momence, Illinois
5 Mar 17
How interesting, all this just to get a bit of television. I love the picture, I wish the US would make their towers for things like tv and cell phones more attractive. I would never have guessed that this tower was for more than just a nice visual.
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@DWDavis (25806)
• United States
6 Mar 17
The Cold War created many odd circumstances in Europe and other parts of the world. I spent 22 months in Korea in the mid-1980s, including 2 tours patrolling the DMZ between North and South Korea, and saw first hand how the division affected those folks.
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@jaboUK (64360)
• United Kingdom
5 Mar 17
They must have been frustrating times, especially if family members were separated,
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@jaboUK (64360)
• United Kingdom
5 Mar 17
@MALUSE At least it turned out that she was on the right side of the wall for her, but it must have been distressing for her not to be able to see her family.
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@MALUSE (69388)
• Germany
5 Mar 17
A student I met at uni lived in the GDR when she was a girl. She visited her grandmother in West Germany and in the night before she wanted to return to her family the Wall was erected. She couldn't go back but later was glad that fate had given her the chance to stay in the West.
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@Tampa_girl7 (49466)
• United States
6 Mar 17
I am glad that there is one Germany again.
@MALUSE (69388)
• Germany
6 Mar 17
So am I and especially my relatives in the former GDR.
@Inlemay (17713)
• South Africa
5 Mar 17
We have a similar looking telecommunication tower in Johannesburg - It has a height of 269 metres
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@pgntwo (22408)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
5 Mar 17
About the same length of time that the UK has been in the EU, strangely. I have not seen the "champagne glass" communications tower... Interesting.
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@MALUSE (69388)
• Germany
5 Mar 17
It's outside Dresden up the river Elbe.
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@pgntwo (22408)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
5 Mar 17
@MALUSE Hmm, didn't notice it, but the closest I got to the Elbe was a bridge over it.
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@MALUSE (69388)
• Germany
5 Mar 17
@pgntwo There are several bridges.You may mean the one which leads directly to the centre.
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@garymarsh6 (23392)
• United Kingdom
5 Mar 17
I always find your accounts of East and West Germany fascinating. It must have been terribly hard for those in the East. I understand how they were asking for such expensive gifts knowing you were living in the land of honey!
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@JudyEv (328597)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Mar 17
The scenery in the photo reminds me of driving up one side of the Rhine from Koblenz.
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@MALUSE (69388)
• Germany
6 Mar 17
You will remember that there are many medieval castles on either side of the Rhine. There are none on the banks of the Elbe, though.
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@JudyEv (328597)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Mar 17
@MALUSE Yes, I do remember the castles.
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@dwstory (1276)
• Roseburg, Oregon
5 Mar 17
The Berlin wall. Not right at all that the wall was build in the first place. But at least it was torn down.
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@MALUSE (69388)
• Germany
5 Mar 17
If it hadn't been built, the GDR would by and by have lost all its citizens. People were fleeing in droves.
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@beenice2 (2967)
• Sackville, New Brunswick
6 Mar 17
It is sad that there was so much division n only one country.
@BelleStarr (61047)
• United States
6 Mar 17
I remember it all very well and one of my girlfriends had half brothers who lived in East Germany.
@bluesa (15023)
• Johannesburg, South Africa
6 Mar 17
I could not imagine being cut off from the world like that @MALUSE . Hard to nowadays believe that there was two Germanys for 40 years, but a reality it was.