How do you Define God????

@bird123 (10496)
United States
July 15, 2017 10:24am CST
How would you define a God who would create Hell knowing someone would go there? How would you define the Quality of Justice in a God who creates an eternal punishment without the possibility of redemption? I have been told by some that God does not send people to Hell, they volunteer to go. What does that say about a God who is unwilling or unable to fix the problems with His creations? Some say God is helpless within the realm of free will. A saleslady in the mall sold me some cookware that I didn't even need or want under the realm of my free will. If this lady is not helpless under the realm of free will, what does that say about a God who is? Some say God can't stand to be around Evil and that is the reason for Hell. How many times have people had to be uncomfortable in order to solve the problems of the world? What does that say about a God who won't live up to the same standards that His creations must? Some say God is perfect, yet in the next breath they say all people are flawed from birth. What does that say about a perfect God who can't create perfect people? Some say God is Unconditional Love, yet in the next breath they list conditions in order to get God's favor for things such as eternal bliss and heaven. As I see it, Real Truth must always add up. How could I define God as all these people do when it doesn't add up? When things do not add up, that is the time one should Question. If one merely accepts it, one is not really after the truth. Can one choose to live outside reality in a realm of beliefs? As I see it, many are doing just that today. What many do not realize is that living in true reality is better. Our actions and choices define who we are. God's actions and choices define who God is. How do you define God? Does it Really add up?
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@FourWalls (33576)
• United States
15 Jul 17
If I come to your house, spray paint graffiti on the walls, rip up your furniture, steal your valuables, and and break your dishes, what are you going to do to me? Are you going to say, "Hey, that's cool, glad you came here and expressed yourself," or are you going to have me arrested and punished? God made simple laws: it's really not all that difficult to not do something. You have to go out of your way to steal, but not stealing is really easy. Yet, people choose to take the hard road and steal. It's very easy to not murder, but people murder. It's much easier to tell the truth than to lie, yet people opt to lie. Bob Dylan once said "you gotta serve somebody." You'll spend your eternity with whomever you opt to serve.
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@bird123 (10496)
• United States
15 Jul 17
I understand that society must protect themselves, however is the answer really to attempt to alter others through punishment? The Real God does not act like mankind. The Real God will return one's actions back in order that one might understand all sides of one's choices. How many crimes would never happen if mankind would discover the real causes of crimes? It's easier to sweep it under the carpet and payback with punishment than it is to Fix the real problems. On the other hand, the problems will never go away until the problems are fixed.
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• United States
15 Jul 17
Amen
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@dlr297 (5416)
• United States
7 Jan 18
@bird123 The real causes of of crime is EVIL.......God told us very clearly how to fix it....But most like you just do not want to listen.....
@dlr297 (5416)
• United States
7 Jan 18
God is the most Loving and Just......everything about God adds up perfectly.... God also keeps his promises.... God created Hell for satan and everyone that chooses to follow him..... Everyone can be redeemed for their sins....Everyone has the same choices....God did not make it difficulty he made it very easy....God also made it the same for everyone....One way...one choice.....either you Believe or not..... Yes you choose to go to Hell.....God gave us free will to choose....God will never take your choice away from you...God also told all of us how to be able to spend eternity with him....either you choose to Believe or you choose not to.....All your excuses will never change that fact....Trying to change Gods rules will also do you no Good....Thinking you know better, and not liking the rules will not change them either..... The sales lady in the Mall is not God....and yes God gave us all free will to choose....God will never take your free will to choose away from you......It was your free will to choose weather to buy the cook ware or not....It is your free will to choose to go to heaven or Hell...... Yes God hates Sin....God hates Evil.....God also told us what he considers Sin, or Evil..and God also told us all what to do about it....How to keep it out of our lives.....How to be forgiven for it.....How to be redeemed.... God is Perfect....Man is not God and will never be perfect.... Yes God loves everyone the same..... YOU ARE THE ONE THAT DOES NOT ADD UP.............
@bird123 (10496)
• United States
9 Jan 18
You accept far too easily; all for promises mankind makes for God. They do so to get you as a follower. I think you ignore all the issues brought up in this discussion. There is no real justice in your view of God. Frying the kids for all eternity without the possibility of redemption, makes that god a Monster. The sales lady and I both had free will, yet I bought that cookware anyway. I would never had bought the cookware if the sales lady was never there. The sales lady surely was not helpless under free will. Why do you think God is? You think so only in an attempt to make your stories add up. They don't so you ignore what you have to in order to stay in that box of beliefs.
@dlr297 (5416)
• United States
11 Jan 18
@bird123 I do not follow mankind....I follow God.... I have not ignored any Issue at all.... Their is Justice with God...He gives you all the facts, He tells you everything... Everyone has the possibility of redemption....Everyone......Has the same rules for redemption...It is very easy.....ABC...... God gave each of us the same choice...... You just do not like the rules ......You make all kinds of excuses....You do not like the fact that you have the choice to make up your own mind as to where you want to spend eternity......God will never take that choice away from you..... The choice of buying the cook wear or not was never taken away from you.....The choice was always yours....You could have walked away.... You chose to buy.....You chose to let the sales lady talk you in to it......The sales lady was doing her job...You must not have a very strong will to let someone sell you something you did not need or want.......That is on you.....Not the sales lady....You had free will....and you chose to buy........Do not try to put the blame of your stupidity on the sales lady.... I do not need to do anything to make God add up......His word adds up perfectly....It is all his way....and their is only one way for redemption of your sins....ONLY ONE WAY......either you want it or you do not....The choice is all yours........God gave each of us Free will to make up our own mind...You want things to be the way you think they should be...That will never happen no matter how big a fit you have, or the excuses you make, or how many names you call God....The choice is all yours.....God will not make your choice for you......... You can not sell me the garbage you are trying to sell me..... I have used my free will to make my choice and that is to BELIEVE in what God has told all of us.....I have choose to be redeemed for my Sins....I have chosen to be with God for all of eternity in Heaven........I made my choice with my eyes wide open.......
@bird123 (10496)
• United States
12 Jan 18
@dlr297 your quote:Their is Justice with God...He gives you all the facts, He tells you everything... My answer: Ask your God why He creates People He knows is going to Hell even before He creates them. Time to Ignore?? Your quote:Everyone has the possibility of redemption....Everyone. My Answer: Are you changing your story?? Can those in Hell change their minds?? Your quote:The choice of buying the cook wear or not was never taken away from you.....The choice was always yours....You could have walked away.... You chose to buy.....You chose to let the sales lady talk you in to it......The sales lady was doing her job...You must not have a very strong will to let someone sell you something you did not need or want.......That is on you.....Not the sales lady....You had free will....and you chose to buy........Do not try to put the blame of your stupidity on the sales lady.... MY Answer: You must stop thinking in petty ways. Forget blame. Think Logic. If the sales lady is able to alter my actions regardless of my wishes, why do you think God is so helpless???? God is not helpless and if your god fries his kids then he is a Monster. It all adds up. your quote:You want things to be the way you think they should be... My Answer: When one is on a journey to Discover the Real Truth, one must be open to ALL possibilities. One must also consider that which one does not want or does not believe could be the Real Truth. This thinking is not Narrow as you strive to be. You must consider that answers exist outside the box you are living in. Your quote:their is only one way for redemption of your sins. My Answer: No one needs redemption for their sins. These choices are a mistake and will create learning experiences that lead forward toward perfection. Sin is part of God's learning system. Can one really do without it? No!! One comes to Understand. One learns by Living the Lessons. Our new Discovered intelligence will then make the best choices which at that point will not include sin. Your quote:You can not sell me the garbage you are trying to sell me. My answer: I am not selling you anything. I am placing Real Truth in your life. What you do with Truth is up to you. Your journey does not depend on me. Be who you must! It's a part of the plan!!
@Prshnth (909)
• Bangalore, India
15 Jul 17
Okay my comment might make you angry and i might be completely wrong in what i belive. I believe in science and i belive that god doesnt exist. Whatever exist on this universe or whoever created this universe is not god. There is scientific explanation for everything.
@bird123 (10496)
• United States
15 Jul 17
I could never get angry with free speech. Can you see no evidence of God? Can you see no evidence of high Intelligence behind everything? Don't you see method behind it all? How does it all add up? Science is the study of God. I have always said that science will discover God before religion will. Why? They are walking straight toward God. On the other hand, I have found no religion that really understands God. You know, all the secrets of the universe including all that about God stare us in the face. Perhaps, it's a test of intelligence. Who can discover? Who can see? Who wants to see? Who is the hungry student? I am that hungry student. Sometimes those who search find what they search for. On the other hand, there is an almost limitless supply of knowledge to discover. For a hungry student, the journey will never end.
5 Aug 17
Really@pras.But there are things science can't explained. how do you reconcile that??
@Shiva49 (21377)
• Singapore
1 Jan 18
My inner voice guides me and also "do unto others as you would have them do unto you". As long as we give more than take, do our part as co-creators, no selfish motives, ego, greed, then we are doing fine. Then accept whatever and I will not live in fear when god is love - siva
@bird123 (10496)
• United States
2 Jan 18
I can see you have the right thinking. God loves us all Unconditionally. As far as our choices and actions go, you are right. If we give nothing but unselfish goodness to the world, goodness is what will return to us. In reality, that is the only real intelligent choice.
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@augusta123 (6657)
5 Aug 17
To me,my God is all -knowing and he is the giver of all good things. he does as he like with his children which his thought for us is always good.
@bird123 (10496)
• United States
6 Aug 17
Yes, so many times one sees the challenges in their life as bad, however one can never advance without them.
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@kiran8 (15401)
• Mangalore, India
15 Jul 17
God is different to different people . For me nature that created us and all living beings is God..
@bird123 (10496)
• United States
15 Jul 17
God is different to different people. On the other hand, the different views that people have of God are not always based on reality. Isn't God much more than nature? Isn't God actually Someone??
@prashu228 (26786)
• India
15 Jul 17
God is power , who can't be defined..
@bird123 (10496)
• United States
15 Jul 17
Isn't everyone defined by their actions? If God can not be defined then that means God is taking no actions. I do not see it that way. God's actions are all around us. To understand God's actions will bring knowledge, wisdom, intelligence and understanding to one. Yes, that is the right path toward discovery.