Enterprising, or budding petty thief? You decide!
By emptychair
@innertalks (23741)
Australia
October 2, 2017 7:05pm CST
When Alf Jones was a boy, he used to walk around the corridors of his school, and sometimes he would nip quickly into an empty classroom. He was looking for pens and pencils that some of the other more careless school-kids had dropped, and lost, in the last few days.
Alf was a shy type, and pretty wimpish about it too.
Large glasses, small frame, spindly bow-legs. He was the typical nerdish type, scholarly, but hopeless at any sports.
Anyways, Alf collected a whole schoolbag full of pens, pencils, and the occasional ruler too.
He would sell them back to the other kids at ten cents a pen or a pencil, and twenty cents for a ruler.
He made quite a lot of pocket money from his doing of this.
Alf would save up his money and buy for himself a phantom comic, his favourite comic character, and idol.
Alf's father was a tough-minded brute of a man. He never believed in giving his sons any pocket-money. Let them earn it for themselves was his thinking.
And yet, when he discovered his young son's hoard of comics stashed under Alf's bed in a cardboard box, he became very angry with young Alf then.
"Where did you steal the money from to buy those comics?" he roared at young Alf.
"You better come up with a good answer, or I will thrash the living daylights out of you, you little brat, you."
Alf told him the truth, about how he had found these dropped pens, and pencils, at his school, and how he had sold them to the other kids for money.
Alf's father looked at him queerly. He really wanted to thrash the kid, as he always got a sort of a morbid pleasure from his doing so. It made him who he was. A powerful despot figure to his kids indeed.
But was this stealing, or was it just showing some enterprising spirit?
For once, he let the kid off then with a warning.
He said to Alf,
"Well, if you really found those pens, and pencils, I guess, that's ok then. But if I find out from your teachers, that you have been stealing them from school-bags, and lockers too, I will double then this punishment, that you have so narrowly missed out on this time."
What do you think?
Was this really stealing that Alf was doing, or was he just showing an enterprisingly young spirit?
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@peavey (16936)
• United States
3 Oct 17
Interesting thoughts... I think he should be discouraged (although I wouldn't want to be the one to do it) because actions like this tend to grow in the wrong direction. Once he understands that he can get something for free and sell it for money, the getting something for free can become the most important part and that can lead to out and out thievery. If his entrepreneurial intentions were guided by some wise person, he could do very well in life!
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@peavey (16936)
• United States
3 Oct 17
@innertalks That's great! I'm glad to know that he did well with his talent.
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@innertalks (23741)
• Australia
3 Oct 17
@peavey His problem now is that he also has a "collector" obsession. He collects books, music, even computer programs, none of which he ever uses. His bookshop became overstocked with books, that he could never sell, even the toilet in the bookshop was stacked with books in it.
This obsession maybe developed also from his pen collecting in his childhood.
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@innertalks (23741)
• Australia
3 Oct 17
You make some good points there. Once the "getting something for nothing or for free" mentality is taken on board, it might be hard to let go of then.
This lad eventually went on and bought a second-hand bookshop. He would buy books cheap and sell them then at a profit, and so this mentality was being legitimately used then.
But it all started from his running this small business while at school.
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@arthurchappell (44941)
• Preston, England
3 Oct 17
technically he was stealing, but probably never thought of it as such and given how many pens I have had that I never actually bought (just putting them in my bag or pocket after using them, not intentionally stealing), I would be as guilty as Alf
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@innertalks (23741)
• Australia
3 Oct 17
Ha, ha, so would I.
The funny thing was that I was in a church meeting once, and one of the "elders" there gave me a pen from a large bank here in Australia to fill in my donation form with. He told me that every time that he goes into the bank, he walks out with one of their pens.
I just looked at him and squirmed my eyes up a bit.
My Dad always told me that that type of thing came under the "gleaning" law, and so was ok. He seemed to think that when you are at work, for instance, the pens that you use there are yours to take home, and use at home too. It was a benefit of your job.
But technically I think that you are right, all of these instances are really instances of stealing.
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@prashu228 (37518)
• India
3 Oct 17
Children should not be encouraged to pick up such things.
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@innertalks (23741)
• Australia
3 Oct 17
That's true. My own Dad always told us not to pick anything up. They could also have diseases, contaminants, etc. on them too, especially if they are found in unsavoury places.
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@innertalks (23741)
• Australia
3 Oct 17
Yes, I would probably agree with you there.
Or I might tell him to hand them into the teacher, so they might ask their students if anyone lost a pen.
Things lying idle are not necessarily ours for the taking.
It's a hard one though. If I find a coin on the beach, while walking along it, for example, I will usually keep it for myself, but a school is also not such a public place as that is either.
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@innertalks (23741)
• Australia
3 Oct 17
You might be right siva, but the boy did develop some pschological problems later on from his doing this, or maybe this was because of his overbearing father, always controlling, and domineering him.
Some of these traits are also heriditary or of karmic origin, as the boy's father was also an avid collector of books, and comics too. He also used to bring home pens, notepads and the like from his work office as well.
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@innertalks (23741)
• Australia
4 Oct 17
@Shiva49 And when we did speak, it was stand up, speak up, and then shut-up!
I was more often neither seen nor heard for most of my boyhood then.....if I could help it...LOL...
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@Shiva49 (28389)
• Singapore
4 Oct 17
@innertalks Yes the circumstances and how we come internally wired with karmic influences decide our outlook. I still cannot shake off vestiges of experiences, especially that are negative, from my childhood.
Nowadays parents are more friends than during my time when children were seen and not heard! siva
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