Perhaps I Am Overstating My Case Here

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Preston, England
November 23, 2018 1:25pm CST
This is the correspondence exchange between me and the local community centre regarding a manager revoking a party invitation already cleared for me by one of the other staff. I have changed the names here. My final reply to the site manager, Dee probably goes over the top but it is very much how I feel about this fiasco. E-mail from Hilda Hi Arthur, Can you please help, it has been raised with me that your name is down on the volunteer party list, but I don’t have you down as a volunteer on our data base anymore, so I am unsure how this has happened. If you feel you are a volunteer, this needs clarifying as no one of the staff have you down as there volunteer. Thank you Hilda My reply I have given talks in the last few months, as that is unpaid doesn't it qualify me as a volunteer for such services? Hilda’s counter reply HI Arthur - Guest speakers as sadly not part of our volunteering offer, we have roles within this group, but guest speakers are not seen as volunteers.Please check with Lyn if you are unsure, as she has a few guest speakers, they are also not volunteering roles. Sorry for any confusion you may have around this. My reply to Hilda & Lyn, which neither of them replied to Stuff it then. Liking one kind of volunteer but not another despite the work and preparation they do is actually insulting. Shan't be giving any more talks. A letter I sent the next day To Dee (their centre manager) To clue you in on my reply to the latest insensitivity towards me by your staff - With leaflets all round the centre telling volunteers about the Xmas party for volunteers scheduled for Wednesday December 12th, and as I have given talks arranged by Lyn, I RSVP'd my acceptance of the invite at reception on Tuesday 20th November but within 24 hours I got a breath-takingly insensitive e-mail from Hilda telling me that no staff recalled me volunteering for anything and retracting my invite. I reminded her by e-mail that i was a guest speaker only to be told bluntly that guest speakers do not qualify as volunteers. Oh, don't we! As giving talks is a free service offered to your service users and not PAID work it is VOLUNTARY so denying me or other VOLUNTEERS an invite to the xmas events for volunteers relegates us to some sub-species of unworthy specimens, like steerage passengers on the Titanic denied a place in the lifeboats. As your Scrooges want to begrudge people who research, write, edit, prepare and present talks and other events and treat us as unworthy to dine at the Grinch's table even at Xmas I hereby withdraw from any and all future volunteering, including talks. Do not expect me to apologize to anyone for this. Even thinking of treating volunteers in this way goes beyond disgusting. It takes a monstrous degree of ingratitude. If you agree that I was not a volunteer consider this a invoice for £30.00 for the assignment I did for your centre. Hope you have a nice Christmas. Thanks for having staff prepared to spoil it for me and other volunteers deemed somehow inferior specimens compared to the lucky elite who don't get their invitations revoked so casually in such a hateful ignorant fashion. Arthur Reply from Dee Our records show that you have not been an active volunteer for some time, and no longer attend the social club where you feel you may be attached. I have also spoken with Lyn, our Activities Co-ordinator who would be your supervisor, had you been a volunteer – she has had no contact with you and you have not approached her either. Our records show that you were informed that you would not be paid for a talks, as you had been in the past. We do not class this a volunteering as per our volunteer policy and guidelines. Page 15 in this booklet indicates that where volunteers have been inactive for over 3 months they are taken off our current records as being an active volunteers as we have over 500 records to manage on our database. I am sorry that you feel upset about this Arthur, but please do not let this deter you from using our services here at the Centre My last reply Thanks for your largely nonsensical reply. My last talk to the Friday group was 17th August - just about three months before the elitist party invites went out - I was not aware that attendance of the social club was so mandatory - many members recently asked me when my next talk is because they share my sense that the current filler events are often not worth paying £3 a time for especially now it runs 2ce a week with very lazy content. I had planned on asking about doing more talks in the new year but the vile policy in place here tells me not to trust the way the events are managed. I am confining my attendance to job club and the food supermarkets until further notice. Lyn could talk to me any time she wished - I attend job club for at least four hours a week right there. I also added her to my replies to Hilda’'s notice of de-invitation. I call that approaching her! If you wanted or needed me to volunteer for anything else you only had to ask - you squandered the opportunity - punishing me for your own managerial indifference to what I or others can do for you is your own faults. I did not expect payment - I am being sarcastic - The fact remains however, in keeping with every dictionary definition in every language that work is always for income or voluntary - as I wasn't paid to research, prepare, put together Powerpoint, edit and present the talks I was somehow not a volunteer - that is so far from the truth to be beneath contempt. You had a chance to invite me to speak to the group, and you wasted it and allowed me to be insulted in this way, - Lyn knew where to find me - I am not there to chase after anyone begging like a dog. I can only conclude that by not asking me to do something for three months plus, except the talk I was giving on the cusp of that time period, your staff intentionally allowed me to fall off the register that shouldn't be kept so judgementally - as you obviously don't want my help anyway, my withdrawing my support for such shallow callous policies isn't likely to affect you. I expect to see the Wednesday and Friday events deteriorate further in quality to the point of cancellation soon unless there is a serious improvement in such attitudes. Arthur Chappell
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@amadeo (111937)
• United States
23 Nov 18
maybe it is the time of the years.Not sure how to comment on this.Rude people?
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• Preston, England
23 Nov 18
@amadeo very much so sadly
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@amadeo (111937)
• United States
23 Nov 18
@arthurchappell that is too bad there.
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@Mavic123456 (21891)
• Thailand
24 Nov 18
wow... so hot... are you okay now?
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• Preston, England
24 Nov 18
@Mavic123456 I'm fine thanks
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@Mavic123456 (21891)
• Thailand
25 Nov 18
@arthurchappell looked like a long exchange of emails. so now, everything is ironed out
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• Preston, England
25 Nov 18
@Mavic123456 not really worked out - they are not going to change their minds regardless of so many reasons to do so
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@topffer (42155)
• France
23 Nov 18
"Page 15 in this booklet indicates that where volunteers have been inactive for over 3 months they are taken off our current records as being an active volunteers".Incredible somewhere. Don't speak to idiots, you may instruct them.
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• Preston, England
23 Nov 18
@topffer exactly, to me if a volunteer hasn't been in touch for 12 months they should contact them to ask if they are alright or if they want taking off the list, nit just delete them for not doing enough as if their contributions are being measured. The centre should be grateful for what they get, not trying to make anyone feel guilty for not doing more
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@topffer (42155)
• France
23 Nov 18
@arthurchappell Nothing against guidelines for volunteering, but this looks more like exploiting others. A volunteer deserves to be treated decently, get out of that.
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• Preston, England
23 Nov 18
@topffer I agree - they won't use me any more. - I'll just be using their job search service and discount food deals
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@crossbones27 (52933)
• Mojave, California
23 Nov 18
These Mofo's always ungrateful, and always find this funny because I have tried certain things like this here in this country. No you do not want a volunteer you want someone qualified just enough, not to much because if to qualified you will have to pay them. We want someone just qualified just enough so we can get free labor. Making everything corporate sucks and trust me no one gets this frustration better than me. It makes it awfully hard to be good people when they do things like that. Wake the hell up corporate world, you doing it wrong and taking the joy of life with it.
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• Mojave, California
23 Nov 18
@arthurchappell Yeah, that is straight bad leadership and can see why they do not believe in what they are doing, bottom line is they are looking at one thing. I wonder what that one thing is? They lost funding because they lost perspective.
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• Preston, England
24 Nov 18
@crossbones27 it has made them more mercenary which isn't helping their cause. I fear for the centre's future.
• Preston, England
23 Nov 18
@crossbones27 they are running a community centre that has just lost a lot of funding so they are getting more demanding on their volunteers and service users which can only drive more people away and reduce their ability to function even more
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@sunrisefan (28524)
• Philippines
23 Nov 18
Looks like their policy is similar to dormancy of deposits which is far better than theirs. In banks, your account could be considered dormant (at least in our country) when there has been no movement for the past 2 years but your club's 3-month policy - what the heck!
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• Preston, England
24 Nov 18
@sunrisefan it is too short a time period and carries a tone of threat - volunteer or you're out - it is actually quite an ugly imposing policy
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• Preston, England
24 Nov 18
@sunrisefan I certainly won't lose out from it. Lots of other projects to absorb my time
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@sunrisefan (28524)
• Philippines
24 Nov 18
@arthurchappell Yes, aside from the fact that the people running do not have the proper etiquette and diplomacy. Your non-participation thereafter will be their loss.
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@ledante (1086)
• Taipei, Taiwan
25 Nov 18
the fact that they got so worked up when you mentioned payment says it all
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• Preston, England
25 Nov 18
yes, and I wasn't even being serious with that
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• Preston, England
26 Nov 18
@ledante all too often sadly
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@ledante (1086)
• Taipei, Taiwan
26 Nov 18
@arthurchappell that's my point- you were being sarcastic and they totally overreacted. folks who do that are usually greedy and will try to screw you over on GP
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@cindiowens (5120)
• North Myrtle Beach, South Carolina
23 Nov 18
People can be so rude. I don't blame you for being angry and upset. I would be too.
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@NJChicaa (127159)
• United States
23 Nov 18
It was really rude to tell you that you couldn't go to the party. And then to say that you weren't an active volunteer when you hadn't spoken in just over 3 months--people have lives. I'm sure they don't have hundreds of others beating down their doors to volunteer. No reason to insult the people they DO have.
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• Preston, England
24 Nov 18
@NJChicaa I agree, they have had over 500 volunteers over the years and seem to fear that they might all suddenly turn up for the party if they don't impose such restrictions but it is just a lame unconvincing excuse - they should really ask themselves why so many volunteers feel undervalued enough not to want to serve the centre any more
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@kobesbuddy (78833)
• East Tawas, Michigan
24 Nov 18
Guest speakers aren't considered volunteers? Then, send them a bill for your services! I can't believe they are being so rude and insensitive, after you gave of your time and efforts, to help them out. It's an insult, how they're handling things at that office!
@responsiveme (22923)
• India
24 Nov 18
I think your replies were very correct but they may just go over their heads as they don't even have a basic idea of what volunteer is. Not the Christmas spirit at all and I suppose it was a Christmas party by the centre
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• Preston, England
24 Nov 18
@responsiveme yes the spirit of good will to all is rather lost on them
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@Courage7 (19626)
• United States
24 Nov 18
Very appropriate replies Arthur in fact straight to the point which of course they won´t like. Yes scrooges indeed. I never head the like I tell you Arthur..there is something seriously dysfunctional with those people. So sorry they are such nitwits to say the least and so insensitive and greed mongers to begrudge you an invite.. I would like to write them a stinking letter too on your behalf.
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• Preston, England
24 Nov 18
@Courage7 Thanks, I think mine probably stings well enough
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@Courage7 (19626)
• United States
24 Nov 18
@arthurchappell Oh yes it will sting them alright..they really need to change their policy if that is what it says indeed..what kind of a place is that anyway so grudging and unappreciative.
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@Janet357 (75638)
24 Nov 18
You did say the right thing arthur, you dont have to worry about it.
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@CarolDM (203396)
• Nashville, Tennessee
23 Nov 18
People just do know want to act right these days. Plain and simple.