Is there always a reason why things happen in the World?
By emptychair
@innertalks (23739)
Australia
December 16, 2018 8:18pm CST
Does everything happen for a reason, or does everything happen for no reason?
If for a reason, who's reason is behind it all?
If for no reason, why does the World work, given there would be no reason for it to be working, and by now it should have ground to a halt, if it was merely randomised firing of blanks, without any reason behind it all?
If everything happens for a reason, is there a primary reason, a reason behind the reason, chaining back to a starting point?
But maybe nothing happens without a reason behind it, and yet that reason behind it, has no reason behind it.
This means that one thing leads to another, but for no other reason than that the one thing is always changing, moving, and going past itself forever in the direction of change.
The reason for this is merely that when something started, it didn't wind itself down, but wound itself up instead.
The energy behind this is God, but there is no reason behind God. His energy just moves through his creation as it does because it does.
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Is there always a reason behind the why?
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@hillhjill (23761)
• United States
17 Dec 18
I believe that everything happens for a reason, you might not know why or what the reason is at first but it will come to you.
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@innertalks (23739)
• Australia
17 Dec 18
Yes, that might be so, but is there another reason behind that reason?
What is the primary cause for all things happening then?
If things happen for a reason, we should be able to keep asking why, why, why, like kids do, until we get right back to that underlying reason for everything happening.
What would that underlying cause for everything be, some say it's God?
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@innertalks (23739)
• Australia
17 Dec 18
@hillhjill I like to go deeply into these things. As I want to know if the reason comes from some part of myself, or outside of myself, or what.
If we take it back far enough, we get to questions, about why the Universe exists, why it has certain laws about it, are these laws unchangeable, and if so, who then put them in place? What is the reason behind life, and myself?
I think about this type of stuff all of the time.
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@hillhjill (23761)
• United States
17 Dec 18
@innertalks I really don't get too far into that thought on how deep it can go.. and yes it might be God.
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@RasmaSandra (97991)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
17 Dec 18
I always believe that things do happen for a reason. That is why I always thank the Lord for the blessings I have and when anything good happens I first look up and thank Him.
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@innertalks (23739)
• Australia
17 Dec 18
Yes, I think so too.
But here is just one example of this.
This morning I bought some milk at a shop. I placed it in the boot of my car. I then went to the bank. The queue was very long. I was annoyed and worried now about my milk in my car, as it was getting hot outside. Maybe, it was already spoiling.
I had left it in my car because my reason was I didn't want to carry it into the bank with me. I had no bag, and these days, they don't supply you with plastic carry bags here in Australia, in supermarkets.
Anyway, a while later I returned to my car, and drove home.
I went inside my house. I pottered around for an hour, or so. I then placed my hand in my pants pocket, to get a tissue, for my nose. I pulled out the milk receipt from my pocket.
Suddenly, I realised, feeling immediately upset, with myself, that I had left my milk still in my car-boot outside, luckily now in my garage though.
The milk was still cold, so I brought it in, and I placed it now in my fridge.
Now that's a complicated, sort of connected list of happenings.
One thing caused another thing. Each reason followed another.
Was the primary reason then, that I was just forgetful?
Was it my intuition that came to the rescue of me, allowing me to find my receipt and twig to what I had done, before the milk got spoilt?
Was something else involved?
Did I perhaps have a higher self, or guardian angel, for example, trying to get through some type of a learning lesson for me, about my staying more aware, not letting myself get upset, by events, largely out of my control, or was I really still in control?
Am I responsible for all that happens to me, if so, where does this idea of a reason, causing things to happen, fit into this idea?
Are some reasons for things happening to me, out of my control?
Should I remember next time to take with me a canvas bag to carry the milk into the bank with me, for example?
There are hundreds of reason we could come up with, is any of them right though, or did all of this happen, for no reason at all, just part of life/life events rolling over us all, with itself?
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@RasmaSandra (97991)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
19 Dec 18
@innertalks and I would say that for whatever reason you put the milk receipt in your pocket it was meant to be a reminder in case you forgot. If you had just thrown out the receipt like I so often do then you would not have remembered until you looked in the fridge for the milk and who knows how it would be by then. Oh, yes and that was also a connection placing the receipt in the pocket with the tissue otherwise it would have been just sitting in the other pocket. This is like a chain of events.
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@innertalks (23739)
• Australia
19 Dec 18
@RasmaSandra Yes, I didn't think of the connection to the tissue. Perhaps my nose dripping was orchestrated by my inner self to set off these chain of events as well.
Sometimes too, when you only buy one item, these days, they do not even give you a receipt. The trend here is towards saving paper. They often won't give one, unless asked too. But the man serving gave me a receipt here without my asking for it.
So this little event was set-up to teach me something, as are all life-events, I think. Nothing happens without a reason or two attached to it then.
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@1hopefulman (45111)
• Canada
17 Dec 18
I think that there are reasons behind a lot of things but there is no reason for many others.
I'm going out soon. The roads are icy. If I slip and fall, the reason could have been the ice, a distraction, because I went out or something else. It was an accident and here was no reason of universal scope.
I'm not going to sit on the floor wondering for hours why I fell. I fell, I should get up if I can and move on!
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@1hopefulman (45111)
• Canada
18 Dec 18
@innertalks There is cause and effect. If that is what you are talking about.
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@innertalks (23739)
• Australia
18 Dec 18
@1hopefulman Yes, to my mind, there must be a reason behind this law of cause and effect too.
Why do laws exist as they do?
God must have created the laws too, when he created creation.
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@innertalks (23739)
• Australia
17 Dec 18
Well, because we exist, this gives us a reason for things to happen to us, and because we have consciousness, we notice things and are aware of things happening.
If there was no reason or no cause for something happening, there would be no science either.
The Law of cause and effect is one of their fundamentalist of laws. Something happens, because something else has caused it to happen. The cause is the reason.
Even Einstein said that nothing happens by chance, without a reason for its happening, when he infamously said, that, "God does not play dice with the World."
Nothing happens by chance or randomly then, without a reason for it happening.
There are no trifles, everything affects everything else.
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@innertalks (23739)
• Australia
17 Dec 18
Do you think that ultimately God had anything to do with, or is behind any part of the reason for what happened to me then in my life, or is that all just lower world stuff?
If we accept that God is behind it all, and that he has a purpose for the overall plan, as for each one of us too, he then must have a finger in every pie.
He must be aware of every happening. He must allow things to come about to try to achieve his overall purpose, and to help us to fulfill our own purpose for him too.
Perhaps, he allows us to meet certain experiences to learn from them something that will help us ultimately to move forwards, and closer to our own purpose, while helping God in his overall one too.
In that case, God's reasons are behind all other reasons, if this was not so, God would be out of control, there would be a reason, that he allows to happen, that is not part of his own reasons.
I do not think this could be so. Ultimately God must have a reason for allowing all that happens to happen.
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@Shiva49 (28375)
• Singapore
18 Dec 18
We are given many choices, innumerable, every day.
We exercise them as others do. Some are flippant without much thought and emotional too.
Once the words are out of our mouths, the damage is done when it hurts another. Our lives change then.
We meet some people who can change our lives in different ways and a few have a negative influence.
I think in individual cases, it is our call but on a wider realm, our influence is limited like a big meteor strike or a super volcano that can wipe out most lives. That is not decided not by us.
So I think we have free choices leading to cause and effect, but our creator reserves his right to decide the overall destiny of the universe - siva
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@innertalks (23739)
• Australia
18 Dec 18
Good points Shiva, but what is the reason why we are given choices?
It must be tied in with the granting of free will to us, I think.
And yet that free will also comes with aspects of non-freedom to it.
God still rules the roost overall.
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@innertalks (23739)
• Australia
19 Dec 18
@Shiva49 That's not good news for the New Agers then. They think that the Universe is their oyster. It will provide anything they desire to them. They just have to ask through some law called the Law of Attraction.
The fact that it's called Attraction shows the fallacy here right away though. It is a desire wishing strategy based on greed, and me first, rather than the altruistic approach that God asks us to follow instead.
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@Shiva49 (28375)
• Singapore
19 Dec 18
@innertalks God sets the limits. He knows how to keep us guessing, under his thumb even!
It is a sumptuous spread, a feast for the eyes and our senses with a recall without notice!
Enjoy the moments is his message and also account for our actions.
There is no unlimited freedom and choices come with consequences; fair dinkum - siva
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