Everything is perfect, or is it?

Yes, bills and other realities of life prove that we are all still a long way from perfection, that is if it's even ever possible. Lol.

Logically though, how could imperfection have ever arisen from perfection, unless God was just a little imperfect himself, as well? Either that, or his creation must have been not quite perfect, but allowed for the possibility of imperfection to develop in it, for some reason. Did imperfection start with Adam and Eve though, if so, the Devil would have been perfect too before that, but it seems that he was not? Something must have turned him away from perfection too, at some stage.

@innertalks We have the inner knowing telling us what is right. We have no control over what happens in the outside world. So when we do what is right then we can be perfect, and find fulfillment. Let us accept things over those we have no control of. That I think will give us peace of mind - siva

@Shiva49 Yes, to a point, I think you are right there. The inner knowing is the love spark in us of God's which constantly whispers his truths to us, and yet the paradox is that when we live only from love, we see the outer world is not so much then controlled, but is no longer out of control, just for us, because we see the thread of love and truth stitching all together for us again then too. I was in church the other day praying, and I saw the cross of Jesus pictured in the word "truth", in the letter "T" in that word. If we take the "T" away from truth, we have ruth. I got the message that truth means to ruthlessly follow the "t", the cross of Jesus Christ, and his truth, or to be emphatically steadfast in our following of truth. Are we to be ruthless with truth, or loving with it then? Love lives in truth, and all love is truthful, and yet when you do not live in that love, you live from non-truth, which then love becomes ruthless in its pursuit of the left truth in you, until it replaces the non-truth with truth, once more, and so then you become loving in truth, then again. Love drives you is the meaning here, ruthlessly finding aspects of truth in all things that you do, until you thread its blanket together again, and picture truth in yourself, and so see God there too again. We see the bigger picture of truth, when we see both ourselves and God as being in the same picture of truth, love, peace, and wisdomed knowledge.

I would probably agree with you, that our life here requires us to endure and learn through patience, by finding our own way, and so only then can we be sure this way works for us then. Taking someone else's way, will always leave us with doubts, about the way that we should have taken instead. Should we have gone our way, or theirs? Some "New Age" writers say the opposite of what the guy that I quoted in my discussion said though. Some people say that we live an imperfect life, stumbling blindly through life, oblivious to the truth of ourselves. They react rather than be. They do not change what isn't working, because they falsely believe nothing can be changed, or they are living from the "blanket" of perfection that this guy reckons warms them up perfectly. They never change or grow, because they prefer to just unfold. Unfolding brings perfection in the unfoldment in the long run, and perfection along the way too, in the sense that you are always being who you were meant to be. Living without unfolding in this way, is a false way of living. Perhaps this is what Jafree was really alluding to here.

@Shiva49 "Nobody can bring you peace but yourself." Ralph Waldo Emerson. I guess this might be true, because nobody can live our lives but ourselves either. And yet Jesus Christ, said, "my peace I give to you." So to really be at peace, we need to be both at peace with ourselves, and at peace with the world too, i.e. to be both inwardly and outwardly at peace.

@innertalks I have seen a few at peace with themselves all the time, at least outwardly. They do what they can and move on - not much time for elation, regrets or worries. Yes, they react to circumstances; my approach is the same. We are always in for surprises and the adage "change is the only constant" is ever relevant. It is a sobering thought that we are history soon but, maybe, we are here to fill a gap and on instant recall. The excitement lies in the perceived imperfection! Let us not wrack our brains as there is no puzzle involved at all. Our creator takes care of the rest; our role is ingrained in the whole process with us left with momentary feelings of triumph and disaster. I always recall the poem by Rudyard Kipling "If' to inspire myself - siva