Are you rooted in Hell, or in Heaven?
By emptychair
@innertalks (23734)
Australia
December 28, 2019 12:24am CST
"No tree can grow to heaven until it's roots reach down to hell."
Carl Jung, (1875 to 1961) the well-known, and respected, psychoanalyst said this.
I would say that he meant well, something like that we need to integrate both sides of ourselves, to be whole, our dark side, our lower self, and our light side, or higher self. We need to own all of ourselves is his idea here.
It's a bad example to my mind though, as we should not own or integrate something into ourselves, that God himself has not placed there.
These things should really be cut away, and never allowed into ourselves again, that is, if they have gotten in before, somehow.
This is because a tree with roots in hell cannot get into heaven. Its roots must be in heaven, and it grows down from there, not up.
This is you, this tree, but you will only grow into the tree that you are meant to grow into, only if you keep your roots implanted firmly in Heaven.
If your roots are reaching into Hell, this will end your quest for God, as it is said in the Bible that we cannot serve two masters, good and evil, or God and the Devil, at one, and the same time.
We cannot court both sides, and expect to come out of it all unscathed, in our doing so.
"Faith transforms the whole person precisely to the extent that he or she becomes open to love."
Pope Francis, said this.
If our roots are deeply embedded in Hell, we cannot be open to love.
We cannot be whole when we remain divided.
So, I believe Jung's intention might have been good here, but his example was more an exaggerated one, picked to enhance the power of his idea, but actually, detracting from it.
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Our tree might reach up to Heaven, but make sure your roots remain rooted to God's love. Stay rooted in Heaven.
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@Nakitakona (59987)
• Philippines
28 Dec 19
I remember a line from the Church hymn. "Sacrifice brings forth the blessings of heaven." Thus we have to overcome trials and challenges in our life before we could qualify to be in heaven.
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@innertalks (23734)
• Australia
28 Dec 19
I guess that the iron, to get hot and to press properly the clothes, must be heated up first, and so must we be heated up in the fires of "hell" to be warmed up enough to provide a good service to God in return for his creating us for himself, but freely as our self too.
Yes, these trials and challenges do seem to be required of us in this life here, as a prelude to us "graduating" to Heaven after that.
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@innertalks (23734)
• Australia
29 Dec 19
@Nakitakona Or a diamond. They say that if enough pressure is applied to a lump of coal, it can become a diamond.
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@Nakitakona (59987)
• Philippines
29 Dec 19
@innertalks good comparison. Just like processing a gold. It has to be heated until it is turned into a finish product.
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@happylife1 (13403)
• Karachi, Pakistan
28 Dec 19
GOD love will guide you to heaven
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@innertalks (23734)
• Australia
28 Dec 19
Yes, God's love will always do that.
Even a bad person can still be guided by that love, in ways unbeknown to them sometimes too. It is better to try to keep God as our friend though, than to make a friend of evil instead.
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@innertalks (23734)
• Australia
5 Jan 20
Yes, l agree.
To be rooted to anything else, other than God, takes us away from God, we have put something else first then instead.
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@Shiva49 (28366)
• Singapore
28 Dec 19
Maybe Jung meant that we have to imbibe all, both sides of the coin, to have a complete understanding of our innings here and then we should uproot ourselves from hellish experiences devoid of love.
Some become "born again", spiritual rebirth, after going through hellish experiences - siva
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@innertalks (23734)
• Australia
28 Dec 19
And yet, there are and were many martyrs, who refused to imbibe all, and were killed because of their refusal, sticking to their Heaven, rather than getting stuck in what they thought was Hell, or anything that was seen as being against their God, and his teachings.
Into every life does come a bit of Hell, while that Hell exists.
God allows Hell to exist as a part of his grant of freedom to each and to every soul, but at the end of the day, it is still up to each individual soul what side they place themselves upon.
There are only these two sides, good and evil. No sitting in the middle is possible, as sitting in the middle, is also sitting on the evil side.
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@innertalks (23734)
• Australia
29 Dec 19
@Shiva49 That's (to stick with the basics of love) what we are all slowly learning how to do though, I guess, some slower than others.
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@Shiva49 (28366)
• Singapore
29 Dec 19
@innertalks Yes Steve, we are led astray especially when we see some making merry without a care in the world. We should be made of sterner stuff to stick with the basics of love - siva
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@Starmaiden (9308)
• Canada
28 Dec 19
"Rooted" may not be the best word in his example, but I do think we try harder to reach for heaven once we've walked through hell. You wouldnt know the light until you've experienced the darkness.
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@innertalks (23734)
• Australia
28 Dec 19
Yes, the darkness does serve a purpose, allowing us to see (or understand more of, or about, light) more light from appreciating the contrast.
I think that our soul lives in continual light, but our body lives in darkness, until it connects to our soul, and then to God.
The body must learn to appreciate that it's not all of it, and there is so much more.
Thinking that the body is all of it that there is of you, keeps you in darkness, and opening yourself to your higher self brings in the light.
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@Fa_Maverick (9491)
• Australia
10 Jan 20
But the Lords prayer says deliver us from evil. So perhaps in actual fact all peoples roots dip into hell and we all grow into our place in heaven. Though some people like some trees have deeper roots than they do tallest branches.
Just because your roots are in hell doesn't mean you have strayed from God, it doesn't mean you will not go to heaven, it does mean however that you are human and you are perfectly flawed.
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@innertalks (23734)
• Australia
10 Jan 20
My own idea is that when God kicked the Devil and all of his angels out of Heaven, they went to the Earth.
We are their descendants, so yes, our roots are in Hell.
But, we cannot serve both God and the Devil at the same time, so we must choose. If we choose God, we uproot ourselves from Hell, and immediately we regain our place in Heaven.
Jesus Christ came to give us a second chance to uproot ourselves from Hell.
He was also tested by the Devil, while here, who told him that the Earth belongs to him. It was given to him (the devil) by God.
@innertalks (23734)
• Australia
11 Jan 20
@Fa_Maverick Yes, the Christian Bible says that Satan still has free entry into Heaven, whenever he wants to visit God.
So, they remain on friendly terms, even having a wager or two, on a man called "Job", as mentioned in the Bible.
The devil is one of God's creations, as we all are, but yes, instead of remaining only loyal in his service to God, he wanted others to serve him too, instead of their serving God.
So, God moved him into his own realm where he could rule as he pleased, and the beings there too with him there, though, could choose to stay there, or not.
It's up to them as free will applies to all parts of God's creation, even to those in Heaven, in its own way. Nothing is a robot. Everything has a free dwelling soul within them.
I think everything, every created soul, has the chance to love other souls, and God.
Good and evil do not exist in love. Love is just love.
Good and evil are more mere labels, placed on beings loving in different ways, either with greater understanding and conscious wisdom of it, or acting more ignorantly of it, but that love remains in every being unconsciously, whether they are using it or applying it consciously, consciously choosing to do so, or not.
@Fa_Maverick (9491)
• Australia
10 Jan 20
@innertalks
Just do not make the mistake of presuming that just because the devil and the angels that became his legions of demons were banished because they are 'evil'. Angels are not inherently 'good' and demons are not inherently 'evil'. In actual fact some demons can be messengers and warn of danger or 'evil' to come.
The devil was banished for his desire to be recognized for his beauty and his intelligence. He showed arrogance and vanity like every human being. He was considered evil for this. If being human makes you evil then you will never cut your roots to hell or to the devil himself. Yet, if you have led a good life you will ascend to heaven anyway.
You said that "we should not own or integrate something into ourselves, that God himself has not placed there." When in actual fact he did put it there. He put it there when he banished the devil from heaven for showing human traits for showing a conscious and free will all of his own. He put it there when he created the first beings the ability to choose.
I study demonology and the divines as it has always been and always will be an interest of mine.
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