Holy Hols (1) --- Visiting Jerusalem

Church of the Holy Sepulchre, Jerusalem
@MALUSE (69413)
Germany
December 30, 2019 3:08pm CST
My husband and I visited Jerusalem on our own, not with a group. One can't get lost there what with so many people from all over the world. You'll always find someone who speaks your language or a language you know. We set out in the afternoon of our first day to get a glimpse of the Old City, the historical and religious heart of Jerusalem. We entered through the Damascus Gate, one of the eight gates (of which seven are still in use) of the old city wall built in the first half of the 16th century under the Ottoman Suleyman the Magnificent. The wall is 12 m high and 4 km long (one can walk on top of it) encircling the Old City. We found it surprisingly tiny, only 1 km across from side to side (about 30 000 people live there!) The Damascus Gate is the most impressive of the gates. It leads into the Muslim Quarter, one of the four quarters the Old City is divided into. The others are the Christian, the Jewish and the Armenian ones. It was stifling hot and suffocating in the narrow alleyways. We were there in the month of June. We had hardly stepped in when we felt we had to get out as quickly as possible. I heard a muezzin and suggested we go into the mosque to be able to breathe freely again for a while. What happened, though, was that we suddenly found ourselves in front of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre built over the spot where Jesus Christ is said to have been crucified and buried. We went in and found ourselves in an unbearable sauna. This was not a place to get some breath! But not only because of the heat. It is the most puzzling church I’ve ever seen and I’ve seen many in my life as a traveller! Following his conversion to Christianity, the Roman Emperor Constantine ordered in about 325/326 that the site of the crucifixion and the burial place be uncovered and a church be built there (his mother Helena is credited with the rediscovery of the Cross). The church was destroyed and rebuilt several times through the millenia. It got several annexes and has now a structure difficult to understand and explore for the unguided visitor. Today the primary custodians are the Greek Orthodox, the Armenian Apostolic and Roman Catholic churches. In the 19th century, the Coptic Orthodox, the Ethiopian Orthodox and the Syrian Orthodox acquired lesser responsibilities, which include shrines and other structures within and around the building. Times and places of worship for each community are strictly regulated in common areas. But alas, although they’re all Christians serving the Lord who preached love and peace, they’ve repeatedly got into fights (the last fist-fight occurred in 2004). Since 1192 a Muslim family has the guardianship and the key to the church. A wise decision! One has to climb up some steep stairs to get to the part where the cross is said to have stood. It’s a Greek Orthodox chapel now, the most lavishly decorated part of the whole church, gold and silver everywhere. When we were there, an old woman was crouching under the altar built over the spot cleaning and refilling oil lamps. As you can see in the photo, the church is rather inconspicuous. One would expect a more grandiose building to commemorate the crucifixion of Jesus, wouldn't one? I also expected it to stand on a mound a bit outside and not *in* the city. The guidebook tells me, however, that the city has grown and that the church did stand outside when it was built. --- You can find the other instalments if you click on the green bar at the top of the site. --- Photo: youtube
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@LadyDuck (458494)
• Switzerland
31 Dec 19
We have never visited Jerusalem, but it is something we would like to do. May be the Church is not grandiose, but all the churches built in those years were similar, so I am not surprised.
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@LadyDuck (458494)
• Switzerland
31 Dec 19
@MALUSE We never visited, many of our friends did, we also have a friend who moved back to live there. I am sure it is an interesting country, not for the sights, but for the history.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
31 Dec 19
I'll post more texts about our journey to Israel. It was an unforgettable experience even though the country doesn't have the greatest sights.
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@BarBaraPrz (45514)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
30 Dec 19
Certainly doesn't look recognizable as a church. I thought it was one of the gates in the wall that you first mentioned.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
30 Dec 19
I've found a photo on the net of the wall round the city and one of the gates. It's definitely more impressive than the church! (photo: liligo.de)
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@xFiacre (12607)
• Ireland
30 Dec 19
@maluse Oh deary me, look at the complex rigmarole Jesus' admirers have made of his simplicity. I do believe that the rot set into the Christian faith when Christians first started building churches. The disciples managed quite well without them. However it is fascinating to see how everything has developed.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
30 Dec 19
You are certainly right but I can tell you that Jerusalem is harmless compared to Rome.
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@xFiacre (12607)
• Ireland
30 Dec 19
@MALUSE Rome is quite vulgar - don't know why it is seen as a 'Christian' city because there is very little Christian about it. I certainly would not like to argue with any of the malevolent looking Nuns who I saw roaming the streets. Furthermore, grown men dressed as gladiators do not impress me and do not encourage me to part with any money. I disliked Rome - even the spaghetti was unpleasant.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
30 Dec 19
@xFiacre One always says 'Rome' but the holy part is really only the Vatican. One can go there and see the sights only with very mixed feelings. When one visits the treasury, one wishes Jesus to come back and throw the people and their treasures out of the holy house. The Vatican may have turned pious people into heathens!
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@DianneN (247080)
• United States
1 Jan 20
Going to Israel is on my bucket list.
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@thelme55 (76485)
• Germany
2 Jan 20
It would be nice to visit that place. I thought at first that it is just a normal building but not a church.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
2 Jan 20
Yes, the church does look a bit disappointing considering its importance for Christendom. I'm sure that all visitors think this.
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@LindaOHio (156488)
• United States
30 Dec 19
It may not be grandiose; but the church certainly looks interesting. I would not have cared for the oppressive heat. Do you know from what era the portion of the church shown was built?
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
30 Dec 19
The church was built in 326 A.D. but altered over the years, of course. (See the fifth paragraph).
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@LindaOHio (156488)
• United States
30 Dec 19
@MALUSE I saw that. I just thought you might know how old that front section was. No biggie. Just curious.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
30 Dec 19
@LindaOHio I wanted to answer your question but reading through the article on Wikipedia made me realise that I would have to write more than my post is long. The church one sees now may not have one original stone any more considering the many destructions it had to endure (an earthquake, fires and the complete destruction by Muslims). I've found: Reconstruction: 11th century.
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@shaggin (71662)
• United States
31 Dec 19
That's lucky that people of every language are there. Definitely would help if anyone got lost. I believe there is a mylot member here who lives in Jerusalem The building doesn't look as fancy as I would have expected.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
31 Dec 19
The building looks quite disappointing to tell you the truth. I'm sure that many tourists think so. As to the people: You don't only meet Israelis in Jerusalem who were born in the country (there is a special term for them which I can't remember) but also the many immigrants from all over the world. Some maids in the hotel were from Russia where they had worked as physicians. They had to learn Hebrew before they could get a proper job in Israel.
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@sprite1950 (30453)
• Corsham, England
14 Jan 20
It may not be grandiose but I rather like the simple architecture especially the little corner part with the steps. I would love to see it in person.
@sprite1950 (30453)
• Corsham, England
14 Jan 20
@MALUSE This is also beautiful to look at but I understand that he preferred the little church. There is something rather atmospheric about that picture with the little chapel.
@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
14 Jan 20
@sprite1950 Let's not forget that there was no church when Jesus lived. It was built only in the 4th century, destroyed and rebuilt many times. Jesus never saw a church. Christianity as such didn't exist then yet.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
14 Jan 20
The little corner part is a kind of open chapel. As Jesus was a modest man from what we learn from the Bible, this church must be more to his liking than St. Peter in Rome which is bombastic in comparison as you can see here.
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@jstory07 (134434)
• Roseburg, Oregon
3 Jan 20
It sounds like an amazing place to see and visit.
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@PatZAnthony (14752)
• Charlotte, North Carolina
31 Dec 19
That would be a fabulous trip so many would appreciate.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
13 Jan 20
I've never been to Jerusalme but my son and daughter both have. Thanks for this informative post, I'll read your other installments later.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
13 Jan 20
I'm glad you like my post.
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@Tampa_girl7 (49056)
• United States
1 Jan 20
I hope to get to visit Jerusalem one day. What year did you go ?
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@Tampa_girl7 (49056)
• United States
1 Jan 20
@MALUSE I am afraid of mice.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
1 Jan 20
@Tampa_girl7 Mice look cute. Rats are nasty.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
1 Jan 20
I would tell you if I could, but I don't remember it off-hand. I would have to find the box with my slides on which I wrote the year. Yet, it is in the attic and it is cold up there and maybe there are mice. The house is about 120 years old. I'm not afraid of mice, yet I'm not keen on meeting them, either.
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@garymarsh6 (23393)
• United Kingdom
16 Jan 20
I was going to visit Jerusalem at Christmas but change of plans. It is still on my bucket list!
@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
16 Jan 20
Why would you choose a Christian holiday to go there? There must be throngs of tourists. Choose the off season instead!
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@garymarsh6 (23393)
• United Kingdom
16 Jan 20
@MALUSE Because I would have been on a cruise but I changed the cruise to go somewhere a bit warmer. I hope to get there one day.
@happylife1 (13404)
• Karachi, Pakistan
3 Jan 20
ahh....i love such holy places very much......i am affectionate by heart such old stone....old walls...and old places....
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• Bucharest, Romania
6 Jan 20
Interesting what humans are capable of due to their religious beliefs. They build churches and decorate them with whatever they can in order to praise a deity that they believe in. They also get into fights with each other over their ideology and over property of certain obejects, area that are sacred in their opinion.
@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
6 Jan 20
It's a shame and people who fight over religion should go to hell!
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@Fleura (29141)
• United Kingdom
13 Jan 20
Religions, the source of so much conflict! I find them fascinating. 'What would Jesus do' I wonder, if he visted that church and found the rota for the different 'Christianities'?
@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
13 Jan 20
If Jesus came back, he could only weep.
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@noni1959 (9885)
• United States
6 Jan 20
I want to visit there some day. What would be a better month to go when not so hot? I would have expected it to be on a mound outside as well.
@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
6 Jan 20
I think spring would be a good season. In autumn it isn't so hot as well but then everything is dried up and brown because of the summer heat whereas in spring there is a green touch which looks nice.
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@noni1959 (9885)
• United States
7 Jan 20
@MALUSE Spring may be a nice time for me to plan. I love green even if it's only a touch.
@db20747 (43427)
• Washington, District Of Columbia
6 Jan 20
Fascinating!! Fascinating indeed!! The church that is standing now, was probably built in ancient style as it was thousands of years ago!! And remember, Our Lord was majestic but yet humble just like this church!!