Cigarette smokers LESS vulnerable to Covid-19?

@TheHorse (206304)
Walnut Creek, California
May 13, 2020 2:19pm CST
I just read a New York Times article that, overall, was not very encouraging. In the article, some scientists are cited as saying 70% of US citizens will get the covid-19 virus. What will vary is how severe their reactions are. One oddity in the article was the suggestion that smokers may be less likely to have severe reactions to the virus. In France, 25% of all males smoke, while only 5% admitted to hospitals for severe reactions to the virus smoke. I'm going to have to fire one up and think about this. Here are my questions: Will these findings be replicated in other countries? If this is true, what is it about smoking that makes Covid-19 symptoms less serious? Does the extra phlegm most smokers have protect them against the virus? Is nicotine a Covid-19 antagonist? What do you think?
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@LindaOHio (157012)
• United States
13 May 20
I think, regardless, you shouldn't smoke! Just sayin'!!!
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
13 May 20
Let me fire another one up and think about that.
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@LindaOHio (157012)
• United States
13 May 20
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
13 May 20
@LindaOHio As Maluse says, it's kind of a pick your poison situation.
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@wolfgirl569 (95596)
• Marion, Ohio
13 May 20
I seen that a few days ago. Glad I havent stopped smoking yet.
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@FourWalls (62391)
• United States
13 May 20
@myklj999 — that’s why they call it a stock pot.
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@wolfgirl569 (95596)
• Marion, Ohio
13 May 20
@TheHorse I wish I had years ago.
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
13 May 20
@FourWalls Will do.
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@BarBaraPrz (45570)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
13 May 20
I think it's all that tar lining smokers' lungs... the virus just can't cut through.
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@BarBaraPrz (45570)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
13 May 20
@TheHorse Yucky?
@vandana7 (98924)
• India
14 May 20
Are you suggesting we all use tar in our eyes and mouth. I wonder what happens to chewing gum folks.
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
13 May 20
Maybe that's it! I wonder what tar pills will taste like.
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@FourWalls (62391)
• United States
13 May 20
I’ll repeat what I’ve said since, oh, March 24.... THEY DON’T KNOW. So they should just go to the patron saint of silence, ST FU. (Since you like “Go Fund Yourself” so much you might appreciate that one....)
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@vandana7 (98924)
• India
14 May 20
I am enlightened .. I didn't know that saint.
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@FourWalls (62391)
• United States
13 May 20
@myklj999 — at least you smoke so you’re less vulnerable!
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
13 May 20
Heh heh.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
13 May 20
It's possible that fewer smokers die of Covid-19 than non-smokers. But more smokers die of lung cancer than non-smokers. So, there. Pick your choice.
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
13 May 20
@MALUSE Nothing is "proven" in science. There are only data that support or refute a hypothesis.
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
14 May 20
@vandana7 I'm not advocating that people take up smoking. Maybe the benefits are for veteran smokers only. Heh.
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
14 May 20
@MALUSE Because he's famous?
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@CarolDM (203451)
• Nashville, Tennessee
13 May 20
I think nobody really knows any more. Every day is a new day for discoveries and reactions, etc.
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
13 May 20
Gotta keep researching, I suppose.
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
13 May 20
@CarolDM I wanna see the lab where they blow smoke on the corona virus, drop it in nicotine, etc.
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@CarolDM (203451)
• Nashville, Tennessee
13 May 20
@TheHorse Yup.
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@saundyl (9783)
• Canada
14 May 20
I read that somewhere as well. I wondered though if it was more a case of smokers dont notice the symptoms as much and thusly dont go to the hospital for them because smoking already causes breathing and coughing issues.
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@saundyl (9783)
• Canada
14 May 20
@TheHorse I suffer from allergies this time of year and often get the sniffles or a cough because of them. I admit when I experience this my reaction is to take allergy meds and see if it stops. I had to do blood work at the hospital yesterday and they asked me if i had experienced sore muscles... And i said of course my arm has ached every day for the last four months. And the nurse cleared me.
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
14 May 20
Hey, that's an interesting hypothesis! I have to hock a bunch of loogies every morning before my day gets going. But I haven't experienced sore throat or dry cough. Or fever.
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
15 May 20
@saundyl Why has your arm ached? I take Suafed when my allergies and asthma start to kick in.
• Austin, Texas
14 May 20
Smokers are breathing off half a lung already. They probably wouldn't even notice the difference in their respiratory system. I mean ... I don't smoke. But my brother was a heavy smoker and he didn't know he had lung cancer until the military doctors told him when they gave him a physical exam. So I guess he was already used to breathing with a bad lung. Just sayin'.
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@RasmaSandra (73678)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
14 May 20
I am not sure what to think. Back in Latvia my husband and I were social smokers and smoked when we had cocktails. Of course, I smoked quite a bit after my husband passed on it was such a nervous time. Now I have not smoked since I arrived in Florida I have no need to. However, the cat I babysit Cheese his daddy smokes and quite a lot but he sits out on my porch to smoke. I don't know how such a smelly habit can help in any way.
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
14 May 20
It's a stinky habit. I can't stand the smell of others' smoke or my own clothes after I smoke.
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@jrlcentral (2601)
• Roxas, Philippines
13 May 20
I don't think having a less severe reaction means they don't get the virus. The danger here is, smokers might show less or no symptoms but carry and spread the virus to others.
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• Roxas, Philippines
13 May 20
@TheHorse thanks. Smoker or not, staying at home is still our best defense for now.
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
13 May 20
@jrlcentral Agreed. That's what I'm doing these days. Except when I go shopping.
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
13 May 20
Your first sentence is correct, as I understand it. Your second is a good point.
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@WorDazza (15833)
• Manchester, England
13 May 20
I wonder if it has something to do with the fact that smokers' lungs are used to working at less than full capacity.
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
14 May 20
I wondered that too.
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@Hannihar (129524)
• Israel
14 May 20
@TheHorse I have no idea about that. That was the first time I heard about it. I do not like the New York Times so not sure I believe what they say or not. I would say smokers have other health issues to worry about.
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
15 May 20
Yeppers, they're self-handicapping.
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@Hannihar (129524)
• Israel
15 May 20
@TheHorse ok if you say so.
• Northampton, England
18 May 20
Obesity
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
18 May 20
Obesity protects?
@mrki444 (15150)
• Croatia (Hrvatska)
14 May 20
I read news how they are more vulnerable to Covid.
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
14 May 20
Where did you find this news? I don't suffer from "confirmation bias." I like reading stuff that counters what I thought I knew.
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
14 May 20
@mrki444 Maybe it was just speculation. I would have thought that smokers would be at greater risk, since they've compromised their lungs.
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@mrki444 (15150)
• Croatia (Hrvatska)
14 May 20
@TheHorse This was at start of quarantine, more then a month ago.
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@UmiNoor (4483)
• Malaysia
14 May 20
I would have thought that smokers will have compromised lungs and since the covid 19 virus attacks the lungs, perhaps the virus would be more severe to them. But I haven’t read or heard anything about smokers being more susceptible to the virus. Perhaps, this virus only attacks healthy lungs? I don’t know. So much is still not known about this virus. And so much misinformation too out there. More research is needed.
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
14 May 20
I would have thought the same. I agree that more research is needed.
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@amadeo (111948)
• United States
13 May 20
where do they come up with this stuff.This is weird.
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
14 May 20
I guess we'll see if there's any truth in it.
@paigea (35718)
• Canada
13 May 20
I am skeptical for now. If one's lungs are damaged by smoke and this is a respiratory illness? Now if one's lungs are not yet damaged, maybe there is something in the nicotine? Have to wait for more evidence. But, I am not going to start smoking!
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@JohnRoberts (109857)
• Los Angeles, California
13 May 20
So if we smoke, we may avoid the virus but nailed with cancer?
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@TheHorse (206304)
• Walnut Creek, California
13 May 20
Actually I think the study suggested we might still get the virus if we smoke, but the symptoms are likely to be less severe. I hear that lung cancer is a tad unpleasant. Difficult choice.
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