School's open during pandemic
By Faye
@FayeHazel (40230)
United States
September 17, 2020 2:23pm CST
Hey all, with the school season starting I'm worried that there will be a spike in Covid. I heard reports about parents not having their kids tested before the school season started, because if they were positive the parents didn't want the kids being positive if they were, numbers to effect school openings.
That's just sad.
I do hope that the same parents aren't sending sick kids to school to , in turn , infect? who else? other kids? the teacher? who in turn take it to their own families?
It's true that I don't know many kids - and actually the few friends of mine who have kids say that their kids anyway, are adapting quite well, they are told what the rules are, and they comply.
However I also have my fears that - even if you get a kid to comply - that they would trade masks, or other such games that one does when one is a kid and doesn't know any better.
Or like this partially funny, partially concerning video points out. Enough *adults* are throwing tantrums over the mask thing. How can we expect kids to do any better?
(Sorry if I have offended anyone, it's not my intent, and people who have an actual reason to not wear the mask have my pity)
Everyone is saying as long as kids will be wearing a mask, social distance, and wash their hands etc. they will be fine at school (when they open next month)...
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
17 Sep 20
Our school district is keeping it virtual . . . there is no way all our schools could make the conditions absolutely safe at this point. I am glad my kids are safe at home . . . and we decided they would learn from home no matter what the district decided. I realize it is not the ideal school situation - but health and safety first - period.
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@much2say (57760)
• Los Angeles, California
24 Sep 20
@FayeHazel Teachers have a hard time disciplining 20some kids in the classroom as it is . . . there's no way a teacher could ever keep an eye on every single child with the social distancing rules. It's just too risky for everyone!!
Thank you - but it will take everyone to do their part to keep our communities safe (that's a whole 'nother issue, right?). Let's keep doing our part
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@FayeHazel (40230)
• United States
22 Sep 20
I think that is brilliant and I agree kids, esp. younger ones may not "get it" or be motivated to keep a mask on (or other precautions)
Congratulations on keeping safe at home. You can do this :-)
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@FayeHazel (40230)
• United States
25 Sep 20
@much2say I think here we are having reduced class sizes - come to think on it, I don't know how it works. I think there is some wack-a-do schedule for some schools, some kids go 3 days in person, 2 days online and then other kids flip flop the opposite days, or something?
My friend's nieces - already school not open for a month and someone in one of the girl's class came down with Covid. *sigh*
But yes, good point, we must all do what we can do individually , that's all we can do
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@Torunn (8606)
• Norway
17 Sep 20
Schools here opened in May, and opened quite normal again in August. Some have to close for a period because of quarantine and some have to have some online teaching, but all in all, the kids and schools aren't a problem. They wash their hands, stay with their group and are quite dilligent. The problem is people over 50 who don't stay at home when they're quarantined or sick.
No masks in schools here though, so I don't know how they would have reacted to that.
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@FayeHazel (40230)
• United States
22 Sep 20
That is surprising to me. I mean about the 50 year olds being the rule breakers. Then again, maybe it shouldn't surprise me. I've heard from the few people I know with kids, that the kids are behaving fine. But still adults are throwing temper tantrums over precautions
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@Torunn (8606)
• Norway
22 Sep 20
@FayeHazel The really old are behaving fine, but people in their fifties and sixthies seem to think that this isn't their problem.
I think you're right with the temper tantrums, it's mainly the adults. The kids can forget if they're playing, but they wouldn't break a quarantine just because they need bacon.
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@FayeHazel (40230)
• United States
22 Sep 20
@Torunn Wow. I wonder why those age demographics, particularly. Here, at least in this area - it seems like it is the young adults 18-29. False sense of security for them I think. They believe they won't get as sick and don't care if they spread it.
That and some people view it a political thing. I'm not sure how. The virus doesn't care how you vote.... it doesn't discriminate.


@DianneN (254949)
• United States
22 Sep 20
@FayeHazel Thanks and true, but I'm sure all houses for sale are above asking price now.
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@FayeHazel (40230)
• United States
22 Sep 20
@DianneN Ah yes, not quite so good if one is looking to buy in your area there....
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@FayeHazel (40230)
• United States
22 Sep 20
I'm happy your grands are doing the online option (safer). Wow, that's not good about numbers going up there, but ... if you're trying to sell property probably a good thing....
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@Ronrybs (21504)
• London, England
19 Sep 20
Our Government's plan for a school return seem to have run into problems and now the numbers of infection seem to be spiking. They have had several weeks to prepare for the forthcoming winter and potential spike, so of course not a lot happened in practical terms and it is looking bad right now
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@Ronrybs (21504)
• London, England
22 Sep 20
@FayeHazel We'll see, I have little faith in the Government's ability to get itself out of a wet paper bag!
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@FayeHazel (40230)
• United States
23 Sep 20
@Ronrybs Ah! Funny enough same here!
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@FayeHazel (40230)
• United States
22 Sep 20
Aw sorry that sucks! I hope they get those numbers coming down, soon
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
20 Sep 20
I know we will disagree, but many people have had to be SOMEWHERE during all of this. If it has not spiked from that, why would schools (which, by the way, children are the LEAST at risk) create a spike? Nurses, doctors, ambulance drivers, police, all the retail workers, grocery store workers...
Everyone who can be exposed to this thing has probably already been exposed one way or another. Opening schools won't make a bit of difference in numbers, spikes, deaths...
Or anything else for that matter.
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@FayeHazel (40230)
• United States
22 Sep 20
I sincerely hope that you are right actually. However I think it is a bold claim to claim that schools opening , or anything else - won't cause a spike. While the "experts" seem to disagree with themselves , and each other - often... one thing they do seem clear about is that the thing spreads from close contact with others who are either sick, or are carriers. Makes sense to me since other viruses and illnesses spread in a similar way.
Why would schools re-opening cause a spike? To my way of thinking - situations like this hypothetical one -
Bobby Jr. has a slight fever and a cough. Mom and dad send him to school anyway. As you noted - kids are usually (not always, but usually) least risk and some of them have few to no symptoms. Well, Bobby Jr. - being a kid and not an adult who can understand more easily, he sees his friend Sam and is just so excited to see him (what, after all summer of being isolated and all) and he runs up and gives Sam a hug. Later , little Bobby Jr. trades his boring plain blue mask with little James - who has a fun one with cars on it. Mrs. Whatsit , the teacher leans in to try and comfort Bobby Jr. who by now is having a level 5 meltdown. He doesn't *want* to wear a mask, it's hot, it's uncomfortable , he can't play at recess as easy and the school bully just picked on him for wearing one with cars on it. (Actually enough *adults* are having trouble with this one, so I much less would blame a child who can't reason as well as a grown person.) As a now unmasked Bobby Jr. is shouting and crying.... Mrs. Whatsit gets a big dose of droplets in the eyes.
SO maybe you're still like - so what? That's mostly other kids that are exposed and kids generally aren't high risk. (there's the case of teacher and staff too though)
Except for the kids have family or caregivers at home. And those people know people who know more people who.... etc etc. And not all of those interconnected people are low risk. During the "regular" years it seems like my (few) friends who actually do have kids that are young seem to suggest that is how entire families get sick at times. One of the kids drag it home from school.
Of course, that is all based on my admittedly limited knowledge of kids. I really am not around that many. And to be fair one of my friends who has school age ones says that they aren't having much issue with the masks and are complying well. SO.... who knows? I would imagine it is a mix of compliant and non compliant kids.
Anyway! You are totally correct ... we don't agree but I am proud of this forum where we can each talk about our viewpoint in a mature fashion. Nothing I was saying - I don't expect you to change your own viewpoint - I just want to clarify where I'm coming from. I actually really DO HOPE that you're RIGHT on this one.
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@FayeHazel (40230)
• United States
30 Sep 20
@porwest SO true. People , it seems in large , have forgotten how to disagree with honor. You don't need to feel like me, I don't need to feel like you. We can still respect each other and be friends. A lot of people need that lesson. Ha!
Actually, I agree with you there. I don't think that it's out of line to assume there is something nefarious (great chance to use that word) - going on behind all this. I've heard several theories. So far, I don't think anything is too far fetched to rule out. I've heard similar about the numbers and "spin". Another thing, I still don't know is are they subtracting the "recovered" number from the overall number of cases? I've heard both that they are, and that they aren't.
Just my main point is that it is out there, and I don't want to risk my life (or my mom's for that matter) ... but then I have anxiety and am not a big risk taker, overall. Not saying it's the best way to be, or to think, but it's just me.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
2 Oct 20
@FayeHazel And certainly there is nothing wrong about being you.
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@FayeHazel (40230)
• United States
22 Sep 20
Yeah. I don't think it's too safe, or a good idea here, but..... yeah.....
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@Blondie2222 (28610)
• United States
18 Sep 20
There's been a spike at some colleges here from out of towners and so they have shut down and doing remotely for a few weeks now. I'm worry about other schools having the same issue but so far so good, hope it stays that way.
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@FayeHazel (40230)
• United States
22 Sep 20
I'm happy to hear your state sounds like behaving responsibly. I too hope that the other schools can stay open

@psanasangma (7910)
• India
18 Sep 20
In my localities they are still on Online classes but I think they have started physical classes for grade 10 &12
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@FayeHazel (40230)
• United States
22 Sep 20
Oh, thats cool to know. Maybe I need to put more faith in kids. Admittedly it's really only the ones that are acting up that gain one's attention in public.
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@FayeHazel (40230)
• United States
22 Sep 20
Masks are good, but, eeeekkkk, distancing would be best hope all are safe there
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@thislittlepennyearns (68159)
• Defuniak Springs, Florida
17 Sep 20
We chose for our kids to go back to in person school. It is the best option for them.
No, we didn't get them tested before school started but neither of them have been sick or shown symptoms.
I get that a lot of people don't want their kids back in school, but we are careful, we take the precautions etc. It's what works best for our family.
















