Zen Short Story: The use of force versus loving with love

Force does exist in nature, but with my Zen, my nature is only to love
@innertalks (23746)
Australia
November 22, 2021 7:42pm CST
The aged Zen master, Frekilda Ruskleven, was talking to another Zen master about the use of force within their teachings. Many a story has been circulated about a Zen master hitting his student, with his walking cane, for example, to try to bring about an immediate mind shift, in that student. Frekilda said that he never thought that the use of such force was ever justified, even to bring about a quick result in a student. It is far better to use love, rather than such disciplinary ways, was his idea about this subject. "Force always empties you of love, as love never forces itself on anyone, and all force is contrary to love's gentleness of its way," was the way that he put it. "We should rather just let love take its course, within our lives, not try to force our self to take its course instead, by any means at all." "Love gives of itself, never violently, but just from itself." "Violence is a lack of real connection to what is, by our connecting, or trying to force connection, from our self, not from love." "And so, we then leave love to be our self, rather than living from love itself, in our self." The old master liked to talk in a double-talking way, about force, sometimes too, like this: "Let go of nothing, but hang onto nothing either, not hanging on is the same as letting go, in some ways but not in all ways, as not letting go is allowing what is to be, whereas hanging on is not allowing what is to be, but trying to force it to be." "If that seems rather confusing, I will give you an example regarding love, of either letting go, or hanging on to love." "Never let go of love, and never hang onto it, too tightly either, as hanging on is an action of the mind, and so is letting go, when all that needs to take place is an opening of the heart to allow love to flow without blockages, caused by both letting go, and hanging on." Photo Credit: The photo used in this article was sourced from the free media site, pixabay.com "Force does exist in nature, but with my Zen, my nature is only ever to love," was how this old Zen master, summed up his own ways of teaching Zen.
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@DocAndersen (54399)
• United States
23 Nov 21
The hand grasping only air is able to hold everything and nothing at the same time!
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@innertalks (23746)
• Australia
23 Nov 21
Does the mind only grab thoughts in the same way, too though, until it connects to the oneness of God's love enveloping all too? Everything and nothing are still a part of duality, of which God leaves alone himself, leaving us to sort out what that really is within his greater oneness.
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@innertalks (23746)
• Australia
24 Nov 21
@DocAndersen So, if I just thought a thought about what you just wrote, it can only add negatively to the original thought then. I more think that thoughts can build on thoughts, so some extra value is always being added, and a thought can't take anything away from any good thoughts gone before it. A thought finds value when we give it value as a thought. I had a few thoughts about my dream last night, but if I do not value my thoughts, they just disappear into the night again too.
@DocAndersen (54399)
• United States
24 Nov 21
@innertalks Ah does the concept of thoughts, or a thought, have value beyond the person? You as always have raised a great question. THe value of a thought is a simple formula. Thought - time - investment = value or, virtually all thoughts have negative value!
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@RasmaSandra (98157)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
23 Nov 21
I always think that more is achieved through love and understanding than by force of any kind,
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@innertalks (23746)
• Australia
23 Nov 21
Yes, I agree with you there, but as the Old Zen master acknowledged, nature uses plenty of force sometimes. If it's raining, it forces us to run for cover, if cold, we put on an extra jacket, if too hot, we take off something too. Nature is not really forcing us either, I suppose, as we can stand out in the rain, and get wet, if we want to, but if a hurricane is heading our way, we probably should not try to play such games with that type of a real force either. Perhaps force does have some type of a role to play, but I cannot see even God forcing us to love him, as he grants us the freedom to choose to do that, or not, for ourselves.
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@RasmaSandra (98157)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
24 Nov 21
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