Short story: An unconscious God might love us consciously. A conscious God might love us unconsciously. God, though, is neither conscious, or unconscious
By emptychair
@innertalks (23745)
Australia
May 7, 2023 2:35am CST
Sri Reminke Flereski, was discussing the idea with another spiritual guru type of whether God was unconscious, or conscious.
Here is what Sri Reminke claimed was true about consciousness, unconsciousness, love, and God:
"Consciousness is a tool given to God's creation to reflect their thoughts on from their mind."
"Consciousness connects love to mind when its substance, an energy mirror, shows God to you, as God is love, but to see Him, you need to consciously connect to him, not just from your mind alone, but from your heart of consciousness instead."
"Consciousness is a field of energy that exists as a mirror around the thing that is love, when love is loving. It is created by love, loving, much as a magnetic field is created around a magnet, being a magnet."
"Love, loving, projects out from the instrument of that love this mirror of consciousness, that the instrument of love, or our soul, can see the creator of love in, as the source of that love."
"On the other hand, God neither uses consciousness, or unconsciousness, himself."
"Love is just love, awareness, and all knowingness."
"Consciousness, and unconsciousness, are only used by God's creation, not by God."
"If we too could live without our minds, only from our heart, we too could live without consciousness, or unconsciousness also. We would live from the same knowing all aware state of God then too."
"Consciousness, and unconsciousness, need to be attached to a mind, attached to a body, to work at all, in a life."
"They need vehicles to exist in, and it is the vehicle which creates them too."
"Both consciousness, and unconsciousness, are illusions, never existing on their own, and so not a part of God, but created as a tool for man to use on his way to realizing the truth of God, in his life."
"No tool has a life of its own, and it can only be used by something else, other than itself."
"God has neither body, nor mind, and in truth, we are not our body, or our mind either. These too are mere tools for our soul to use, while it grows in the wisdom of love, and loving, and so becomes all-knowing of the same truths as God is then too."
The other guru, just shook his head, and replied:
"You have only confused me more with that gobbledegook. Can't you say it simpler than that? And at times, you have contradicted yourself there."
Sri Reminke said:
"Just allow God to wake up in you, and you will then wake up in him too."
"Consciousness swirls around love but can never be love, be love first, and let consciousness just reflect the love to others from you, as it was created to do, both for you, and for God too."
Photo Credit: The photo used in this article was sourced from the free media site, pixabay.com
'“The mind creates the abyss, the heart crosses it.”'
Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj, (1897 to 1981) the great Indian spiritual teacher said this.
The picture is of Sri Reminke Flereski, a well-respected spiritual philosopher.
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@innertalks (23745)
• Australia
7 May 23
Yes, love is always the answer to our life here, but what part of us do we love God with?
Can we love God just with our thoughts, or can we love him from the depths of our heart, and soul too?
@Jenaisle (16568)
• Philippines
7 May 23
These are deep thoughts. I am simple-minded and cannot grasp fully what it means that "consciousness swirls around love..."
But I do understand what you said about '“The mind creates the abyss, the heart crosses it.”' It is like saying, "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly."
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@Jenaisle (16568)
• Philippines
7 May 23
@innertalks I see, and that love could only exist with God. Thanks for the explanation. God bless.
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@innertalks (23745)
• Australia
7 May 23
It means that love and God are the energy behind all else, and everything is powered by this energy, causing it to swirl around love, which we call making a life, by being conscious, and living souls.
Without love in us, we couldn't live, or swirl, at all.
Yes, we create life problems with our mind, but only our hearts can see the solutions, or see rightly the right thing to do in any given mind-created, or life-created, circumstance.
@innertalks (23745)
• Australia
7 May 23
@Jenaisle With all of my thinking, I still try to find the connection to love, as without that love, thinking on its own just spins us around in circles, with love, we have its power to serve God, and fulfil his purpose for us in our lives.
@crossbones27 (53005)
• Mojave, California
7 May 23
I think god is the universe and it makes sense with conscious and unconsciousness. Its just everything that is here. Every person planet and star is a part of god. That does change heaven and hell right and wrong, and evil and good though. Kind of negates each other.
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@innertalks (23745)
• Australia
7 May 23
We are all the stuff of the Universe, yes, but you are saying that its totality could be called God.
The scientists claim that it all started with a big bang, and at one time there was no Universe, perhaps God is the energy behind this big bang then.
I think that God is more than just being the Universe, as there must be something that has set it up uniquely to work in that way, with most things jelling together, and lasting for this long already.
Perhaps some algorithm sits behind it all, called perhaps the God algorithm.
Even with religion, they claim that we are all souls, a spiritual spark of God, which essentially is saying the same thing as what you said too. Each soul, or part of creation, is a part of God, or has God in it.
@crossbones27 (53005)
• Mojave, California
7 May 23
@innertalks I can go with that, thats the part we do not know yet and should or would keep people excited but they to spoiled to see past themselves, me included. 
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@innertalks (23745)
• Australia
7 May 23
@crossbones27 One thing for sure, the Universe is old, by anyone's standards, and so if there is a God behind it all, he must be sticking with it all for the long haul too.
@RebeccasFarm (91297)
• United States
7 May 23
Interesting topic. I cannot believe that some people do not believe we have a conscience at all.
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@RebeccasFarm (91297)
• United States
8 May 23
@innertalks Yes and ensures the we have compassion and empathy.
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@innertalks (23745)
• Australia
7 May 23
Yes, we all have a conscience, but some block it off, move away from it, and never use it.
We need to listen to our conscience, live from our hearts, and be compassionate in our living, by feeling the pain of others, and living from the bite of our conscience, that ensures us of right living too.
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@Shiva49 (28397)
• Singapore
7 May 23
We stray from the basics of living - and thereby forget our creator.
Having our creator in mind and feeling his presence all the time will elevate our thinking or prevent us from putting the cart before the horse, meaning, getting led by a straying mind clutching at straws.
We are given the basic ingredients and also an inner prompt but we prefer to waste our lives with a devil-may-care approach.
We need to realize our body is just a covering needed to survive the environs here but the soul is what matters - it is connected to our creator, considered a spark of him even.
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@innertalks (23745)
• Australia
8 May 23
Yes, nicely put, siva.
When we allow the desires, wants, and petty emotions, to rule us, via our minds, we set ourselves up for a non-spiritual life, and distance ourselves from God, and our own soul, at our own peril too.
We live a largely empty life then, instead of a full, and lovingly caring one, for God, for ourselves, and for those around us too.
@innertalks (23745)
• Australia
9 May 23
@Shiva49 Yes, he is allowing us to play havoc, on a long leash, but for sure, at some time, we will all be reined in.
@Shiva49 (28397)
• Singapore
8 May 23
@innertalks Thanks, Steve. When we enjoy the munificence of our creator, it behooves us to do our part too to lead a spiritual life with a sense of gratitude.
Sadly, that awareness is lacking and we are in fact destroying what is given for free starting with the air we breathe and the water we drink.
The soul connection is missing and our creator is ignored. However, his love is ever-present as otherwise we would have been history.
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