It Has Always Been this Way

@porwest (112717)
United States
August 12, 2024 4:57pm CST
It is often said that history tends to repeat itself, and it is something that is not just something we say. It's something that happens. We live in the here and now and somehow try to find a difference between what was and what is. When it comes to politics, we feel like things are chaotic and out of order. Perhaps that is where some of the animosity toward Trump comes from? I am not sure. But the reality is that politics has always been dirty. It's always been tooth and nail. It has always been cutthroat and sometimes downright nasty. There's always been heat. I think it is important sometimes to step back and take a look back. Watch old debates between politicians and pundits. We need to see the exchanges to see what really happened as opposed to what we think, or even how some people think they remember it. A very heated exchange between William F. Buckley, Jr. and Gore Vidal that happened in 1968 is quite reminiscent of discourse we might see today. These were pundits who had different opinions and ideas and were quite passionate about them. Whether you agree with their points is not the important part. To recognize that it has always been this way is.
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@2ndchances24 (12188)
• Cloverdale, Indiana
13 Aug 24
I was just 10 yrs old when that 1 was going on & I wasn't to interested in politics back then now I am which is a LONG time ago to now. But your right it's a war of who is gonna do what to who's all just talk & if people would like you said go back in time with history they'd see who was strong & was FOR the people & who was all talk & no action.
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• Cloverdale, Indiana
13 Aug 24
@porwest We just want to live as peaceful & easy as we can without the govt in our pockets every time we stick our hands in it & pull out lint, & wonder where our next meal or $ is going to come from.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
13 Aug 24
@2ndchances24 True. I mean a lot of THAT is self-inflicted as many people simply don't know how to manage their money and don't take the time to learn and then think someone owes them something. But SO MUCH money gets wasted, when you pay taxes, you just feel like you are being robbed.
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• Cloverdale, Indiana
13 Aug 24
@porwest yeah well like my husband said, " when I crashed & was in the hosp & didn't know if I was going to make it or not, everything stopped" he didn't know what to do or if he was willing to keep going.
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@kareng (80243)
• United States
15 Aug 24
People need to view and think with clear minds also!
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@kareng (80243)
• United States
18 Aug 24
@porwest 100%, but instead of people *thinking* for themselves and researching something, they believe what they read on the internet or the news, which is now controlled by Washington, D.C. and a bunch of hogwash filled with lies.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
19 Aug 24
@kareng That's a huge part of the problem. People need to understand that the media of yesterday is a far cry from the media of today. It's mostly lies and if it's not outright lies, it's what they leave out that matters.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
18 Aug 24
That would be a BIG help. Truly.
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@kaylachan (84701)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
13 Aug 24
As they say, some things never change, just the people do.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
13 Aug 24
The important point of this post is to remind people to step back and bring some critical thinking and rational thought to things. Too many people think what we are seeing now is unusual. It's not, and it is important to understand that fully.
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@kaylachan (84701)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
13 Aug 24
@porwest I blame the way people are being tought now a days.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
13 Aug 24
@kaylachan I question if they are being taught anything at all. lol
@just4him (323168)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
13 Aug 24
Solomon, in his wisdom, said there's nothing new under the sun. That includes politics. I'm only glad they don't kill each other to settle a debate anymore. Or do they?
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@just4him (323168)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
13 Aug 24
@porwest Thank you.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
13 Aug 24
Your last question is quite interesting.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
14 Aug 24
@just4him It asks a VERY important question I think we need answered. Not sure if you insinuated that question or caught on to the one I am suggesting.
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@LindaOHio (222222)
• United States
13 Aug 24
I am looking forward to the Trump/Harris debates. Have a great day.
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@LindaOHio (222222)
• United States
14 Aug 24
@porwest Whatever.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
14 Aug 24
@LindaOHio If you think she can get a sentence out...I need one of those slapping my forehead emojis. AMAZING how people cannot see what is right in front of them. Yeesh. Vote for Harris. More inflation. More wars. More crime. More word salads. More horrible policy ruining lives. Again, yeesh.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
13 Aug 24
If she has any dirty clocks lying around, she should bring them to the debates. Trump will clean them for her.
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@JimmyDeen (250)
20 Aug 24
As the world turns...
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
20 Aug 24
This soap opera is getting very old, though.
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13 Aug 24
It is what, it is. Perfectly fits here.
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
13 Aug 24
The problem is when people think it wasn't what it is before. They need to be reminded.
@RasmaSandra (97912)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
12 Aug 24
Suddenly I have this visual picture of politicians all singing My Way and each one of them thinks their way is the best way,
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
13 Aug 24
Well, isn't this what they have always done? The ONLY difference is that there were actual discussions and exchanges of ideas and SOME compromise. Not a single side has the BEST way, but if we can talk about it we can find that common ground that at least finds a BETTER way.
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@moffittjc (128824)
• Gainesville, Florida
13 Aug 24
I agree that the nastiness has always been there, just not as visible as it is nowadays. But then again, they didn't have 24/7 news channels, social media sites, and camera phones to contend with back then.
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@JESSY3236 (22199)
• United States
13 Aug 24
Yeah it has always been like that. I wish it wouldn't be.
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@yoooufi (139)
13 Aug 24
Politics is sometimes dirty and sometimes clean. And there are no enemies or friends in the world of politics, there are only "interests"
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@porwest (112717)
• United States
8 Oct 24
Well said.