Teacher Wrongfully Suspended/Fired??

@Jshean20 (14359)
Canada
December 6, 2006 2:47pm CST
On the doctor Phil show the other day they had the story of a teacher who's past came back to haunt her and in turn caused her her job. 11 years ago, at the age of 22, this teacher was very desperate for money (as she was homeless with two children) and she starred in a pornographic film. Just when she thought she was moving on with her life with a great career, her pornographic films came back to haunt her when a student found them and was passing it around to other students. The teacher was suspended and her contract was not renewed. What do you guys think of this??
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• United States
6 Dec 06
It is sad but unfortunately those who are the first to throw stones at this woman (the political crowd) are the ones who live in the biggest of glass houses! I don't think it was justified.
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@Jshean20 (14359)
• Canada
7 Dec 06
same
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@Lydia1901 (16353)
• United States
6 Dec 06
That's too bad, she was just trying to feed her family and start anew. But someone just took that away from her. I feel her pain.
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@Jshean20 (14359)
• Canada
7 Dec 06
same here
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• India
7 Dec 06
agreed
• Indonesia
7 Dec 06
I don't think that was right
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@Jshean20 (14359)
• Canada
7 Dec 06
neither do I
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@carolynf (199)
• United States
7 Dec 06
me either, sometimes you have to do what you gotta do to survive, especially if you have children.
@carolynf (199)
• United States
7 Dec 06
me either, sometimes you have to do what you gotta do to survive, especially if you have children.
@claudia413 (4283)
• United States
7 Dec 06
That was just on Dr. Phil here today. I felt so sorry for her. I would never want to work anywhere in the school system she was in. They were so judgemental (most of them). I hope she can get a teaching job somewhere that she's appreciated. She worked hard to turn her life around and could be a good example to many kids. They also had another teacher on there who was suing several of her students who had set up a My Space account in her name and evidently put some pretty bad stuff on there. She wanted them to pay for defaming her, and I agreed with her. What they did was wrong, and they should be held responsible for it.
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@Jshean20 (14359)
• Canada
7 Dec 06
both sad situations
• United States
7 Dec 06
I feel sorry for her and her situation but I would not want her being a teacher and a role model for my children. WE all hit hard times financially - not all of us take off our clothes to fix it! Its a choice she made and now she has to live with it!
@Jshean20 (14359)
• Canada
8 Dec 06
thanks for your opinion
@Symbol30 (17)
• United States
7 Dec 06
As a teacher, I have to say, at first when I looked at this, I thought, she should never have been fired, then I remembered my application. As a teacher, you are, unless working for a private school, a government employee. In the application, it asks you to include all of your employments. If she did not include this, and I'm guessing she did not, then yes, she should have been fired. What she did in her past, I have no problems about it. However, not letting your employers know about it, when you have to put all jobs on it, is falsefying the job application. It doesn't matter what job you are trying to get, it says on the application that you are to be truthful to the best of your knowlege. I find it difficult to believe that she did not remember this employment.
• United States
7 Dec 06
In the application, does it ask what type of work or just the name of the employer? If it's just the name of the employer, it could have been "A to Z Distributing" or something like that. If she intentionally left it out, it might be a different story. If it didn't ask for the type of work she had done previously, then I'll bet a lot of applications are going to be changed in the near future.
• United States
16 Dec 06
Mine did ask for a brief discription. The school also did a background check and called all of my former employers. Which with my military background, some of it was difficult to discover. The movie company or current company that owns the rights would have her film record. I don't know how old the lady was or how long she was in teaching before this was discovered, however, if she started teaching sometime within the ten years, then there were grounds for termination.
@KrauseHome (36682)
• United States
7 Dec 06
This was a Repeat, or this had been brought up in another Show as I remember this incident being brought up... I honestly think this was Wrong of the school to Fire her. They should have been willing to listen to her side of the story, and then go from there. If anything the boys passing the Video around should be the ones to get in trouble.
• Australia
7 Dec 06
Maybe the boys wouldn't have been passing it around if it hadn't been their teacher staring in it!
@Jshean20 (14359)
• Canada
18 Dec 06
I wish I knew how the boys found it too.
@amy0214 (1513)
• United States
6 Dec 06
I don't think that was right. It was something she did years ago before she was a teacher and she didn't do anything illegal
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@Jshean20 (14359)
• Canada
7 Dec 06
thank you
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• United States
7 Dec 06
I agree with you. It was years ago, she was no longer doing it and she had putten it behind her.
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• United States
7 Dec 06
Oh my goshhh. That's actually really sad. I don't agree with that. One: she was trying to help her family. Two: she's not doing it anymore. But I guess when you do something like that there's a chance of that happening. That's just too bad for her. I hope she finds another job soon.
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@msqtech (15075)
• United States
7 Dec 06
but she didnt set a good example for a teacher now the kids know she needs to go
@lawliiet (99)
• Taiwan
7 Dec 06
I agree that it's unfortunate. It's really scary how the past can come to haunt you during the worse of times. A teacher at my school told us that he had a friend who did very well at school, and graduated with top grades. He sent his resume for an opening for a pretty good job, but was rejected. After some mini-investigations, they found that it was because he had a record during Junior Highschool for handing in his homework late.
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• United States
7 Dec 06
If that's true, it's totally ridiculous. They should have looked at his records after junior high/middle school. I feel sorry for anyone who is turned down for employment because of such a stupid reason.
@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
7 Dec 06
Well my first question is what was done to the student who found the film and was passing it around. I hope he didn't get off scott free for viewing a film while underage and giving it to others to view. I think it's great that she found a legal way to find funds back then and managed to turn her life around. She should be applauded for that. It's just unfortunate that this came up to bite her in the rear. I can understand why the school suspended her not because she did anything wrong but due to how it has disrupted the classrooms. It would be very hard for her to teach however there is no reason for her not to have been able to transfer to another school. If it had not been so blown out of proportion where so many heard about the situation this might have been possible. Now though who knows.
• United States
7 Dec 06
Excellent comment. I think you have said it best.
• United States
7 Dec 06
i do not agree with what you do in your past should get you fired.yes it was a bad example for the kids but the teacher should of never got fired for something that happened 11 years ago.what happens in the past should stay in the past.
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• United States
7 Dec 06
It was years ago and she probably did it to eat and put a roof over her kids heads. It wasn't a million films it was one. I agree the child should be suspended and the teacher should be left alone.
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@srhelmer (7033)
• Beaver Dam, Wisconsin
7 Dec 06
She didn't do anything illegal and I honestly think the school district was wrong in firing her. It's one thing if she was doing that while working as a teacher. It's something completely different to fire her for something in her past.
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@mirage108 (3403)
• United States
7 Dec 06
well I think it was wrong of them to fire the teacher. she didnt do anything wrong and didnt even bring the film into the school. maybe let her go from the school she was teacing in as the students might not be acceptable to her being a teacher anymore since the film was brought out. but transfer her to another school or something where the school admin knew of the past but not the students.
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• United States
7 Dec 06
I dont think that should of cost her her job. Plus it was 11 yrs ago, its not like she is still doing it. She did what she felt she had to do to take care of her family
@sindra (1118)
• Indonesia
7 Dec 06
hmm
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• United States
7 Dec 06
I don't agree with it at all. it was along time ago and she is not the same person as she was. if anything i think she is a great example to kids and everyone on how you can turn your life around after making a mistake.
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• United States
7 Dec 06
I have to say that I am sorry that she had such a tough past but she made some very poor decisions by turning to that as an option. About anyone could get a fast food job or factory job to earn money if desperate without doing something like that. I certainly wouldn't want someone with that kind of past with my children. Teachers carry a big responsibility and must have a clean past and reputation in my opinion.
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@sbeauty (5869)
• United States
7 Dec 06
I don't think it's fair. It was commendable that the woman pulled herself up from homelessness and supported her children any way she could. Now, instead of rewarding her for her courageous feat, she's being punished. That doesn't give much incentive to other people who find themselves in desperate straits, does it?
• Australia
7 Dec 06
So anyone who is deperate lays down and spreads their legs and whatever else, films it, sells it so that children can veiw it and expect to be rewarded!! Hummmm...let me think....does this make sense?? One second...NO! Not to this fella!
• Australia
8 Dec 06
Gees I can't even express my thoughts (and there are no swear words or vulgar sayings) in a reply to you without Adult Content ..you must change your settings! appearing!!! No P*** in it either!!
• United States
12 Dec 06
The_Eagle_1, She didn't give that video to any kid. Some kid got it from their irresponsible parent.
@The_Eagle_1 (1122)
• Australia
7 Dec 06
If it were you son in her class, where do you think his mind would be on his school work??? The teacher was very naive to think the past wouldn't come into the here and now! We all make life changing descisions and have to take responsibility for them as she will ultimately need to! But as a role model....the schoolboard would have no choice I believe other than the action they took!
• United States
7 Dec 06
Well,Eagle, it is you and I disagreeing with everyone else! I can not believe none of these other people understand why the school board had to do what they did.
• Australia
7 Dec 06
Yes it is strange...a profession that is still in sealed bags in the newsagencies and age limits for veiwing, yet the board is to pass over all these limitations on the material and set what sort of an example for the rest of the school children?? Liberated as an adult okay that is the adults choice....but they don't get liberated by their hairdresser...or shop assistant which has even less impact than the teacher had on those students. Do parents want their children put into these types of situations?? I wouldn't..as you appear wouldn't either red...
@Jshean20 (14359)
• Canada
19 Dec 06
thanks to all of you