scams!!

@cyntrow (8524)
United States
January 30, 2007 6:05pm CST
How would you define a scam? I am a member of another question and answer group, Duno.com. I know some of you have heard of them. Some of you have even spammed them. A few weeks ago, Duno changed their way of doing things. Instead of accumulating earnings they went to a jackpot system. From what I understand, people who reached the minimum payout got their money. Everyone else didn't get a thing. I don't consider this a scam. We never had to pay anything, and we got what we were do if we had reached the minimum payout. Yet people are still complaining. "I earned seven dollars, where is it?" I once paid 20 dollars to get a data base list that did me no good and there were no guaranteees. That is a scam. This is just a website that really owes people nothing. What does everyone else think??
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@BDnLacy (324)
• United States
31 Jan 07
Duno was simply a victim of greedy scammers, and bad management. Now that the scammers that flooded that site, is gone, the owner is working on a more secure way of preventing it from happening again in the future. In the mean while he has started a daily jackpot to pay it's members. I admit that the site should have been better setup prior to accepting members. That the owner can take responsibility for, and has.
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@cyntrow (8524)
• United States
31 Jan 07
actually, I said the same thing in another post about payposter. If you are in over your head, admit it and move on. That's what duno did, I feel.
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@BDnLacy (324)
• United States
31 Jan 07
The difference in what happened at payposter and what happened at duno is Duno is actually taking steps to correct the situation. Payposter just drop everyone and said screw them. Duno will be what it was once again.
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• Canada
31 Jan 07
You're right about payposter. Bad management(but what do you expect from a 16 year old?) I never got paid there, and I was a mod until one greedy admin demoted me. Now the owner is in the hole $450, and he blames the members of the site. I've come across a couple of better sites anyways, that by far, outshine payposter.
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• United States
31 Jan 07
I would define a scam as someone who didn't pay you. Or only half paid you. Or a website claiming all this great stuff and then giving you nothing.
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@cyntrow (8524)
• United States
31 Jan 07
I respect your opinion but I view a scam site as one who charges money in hopes of getting an return and then doesn't deliver. A scam is a loss. How do you view this?
@cyntrow (8524)
• United States
31 Jan 07
and by the way, if it matters. Everyone who posts with the exception of name callers and bashers and people who don't have a clue what the post is about, gets a positive rating from me. Always.
@tammyr (5954)
• Etowah, Tennessee
31 Jan 07
I do not think it is a scam. There are only a couple of people who did not get paid and I figure they were ceaters,and spammers. I saw people post saying things like 'Hey everyone, lets pass it on. We all go post three questions,then answer them,that way there is more money going around." It had become a joke. The top pay was 80% to the first to answer. Even If all they said was "Yeah" or "I don't know!?" I for one am glad. I spend time there as well as here and like it much better now. I may not be making money, but there is always a chance of it.
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@cyntrow (8524)
• United States
31 Jan 07
I agree. I enjoy answering the questions and the stupidity was getting out of hand. I'm fine with the jackpot system. If I don't earn anything, at least I didn't lose anything.
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@snowflake5 (1579)
• United States
31 Jan 07
That's interesting, I didn't know Duno had changed their way of operating. Does this jackpot apply every month? i.e. do you have to reach the minimum every month? I suppose most people don't have time to devote to these sites every day. Sometimes you have time, sometimes you don't. Which is why people like the accumulator system. Imagine if MyLot said that if you didn't achieve a minimum of $30 per month, you got nothing for the work you put in! What Duno has done is a scam if they've applied it retrospectively. If they had paid everyone what they were due, and then said, from now on you only get paid each month if you reach the minimum and lose everything if you are under, people would know where they stood. But if they told people there was an accumulator in place and then abruptly changed their minds after people had wasted time on the site - that's a scam. Most scams are about getting people to waste time and then not paying.
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@BDnLacy (324)
• United States
31 Jan 07
No it is a daily jackpot Which is equal to 1/2 of the sites revenue for that day. And a scam site is one that is set up with the full intentions of defrauding it's members. I have been a member of Duno for a long time. As a matter of fact I was there from the beginning. The site did pay out every month just as it stated it would. But last month while it was a victim of people scamming the site. People flooded the site with BS questions like come get your money here, there is a money party here, and other bogus stuff. THAT MY FRIEND IS A SCAM.. Duno simply had to adjust the way it paid in order to not have to shut down and leave everyone hanging. Up until it was flooded with scammers Duno was the highest paying PTP site on the net. A person could easily make upwards of 15.00 a day there. and many did and were paid for it.
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@cyntrow (8524)
• United States
31 Jan 07
Yes, and if it weren't for the spammers, a person could make a modest living on duno. I maintain they they were scammed, not the other way around. From my understanding, when the rules changed, people who had reached the minimum payout got their money. The jackpot is daily and it is about the best responses. I've seen a different name every day.
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• United States
31 Jan 07
Thanks for clarifying the payment system. Out of interest, have you ever been paid from their jackpot? In other words, is there a risk of people putting in effort and getting nothing out of it?
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@WebMann (4732)
• Canada
31 Jan 07
First let's not get into who spammed who I was there and watched it unfold. Dan got himself screw up because of his payout scheme. When that didn't work out rather than just let people know he just changed the payout rules and started the whole spamming issue because of it. As for it being a scam, well I would not say that, just poor planning and no communication, until it was already screwed.
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@cyntrow (8524)
• United States
31 Jan 07
I was there too. And yes, we established that it was poor management. We can all say what we would have done if we were in his shoes. But I think the issue is he's trying to make good, at least somewhat and hopefully learned from his mistakes.
• Thailand
31 Jan 07
duno.com is not a scam now and never was. It is a site in crises at the moment. It was started with good intentions but the guy who started it had too much faith in human nature and did not build the safeguards into his site that were needed. Some people quickly learned how to game the site and the site found itself in trouble, owning more than it could pay. I understand that the site administer is now trying to revise the site and make it what he had originally intended it to be. I see a lot of the same names here that I saw there in days gone by. When everybody bailed most of the good content went with them. The internet is a very Darwin place where content is king. Without quality questions and answers duno.com will die and that would be a shame because it has the potential to be another good place to exchange ideas and information. If you can find it in your self to drop by there once in a while and leave a good question or answer you can help it survive. Don't do it for the money, you won't make any. Do it to help keep a struggling community alive. No, I have no connection with duno other than being a member so the only thing I have to gain by this post I to have another place to go for intelligent discussions.
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@cyntrow (8524)
• United States
31 Jan 07
I am with you. I love the questions and I enjoy searching for the correct answers and it bothers me that people can ruin a fun site. It bothers me more than people can put a good site on the same plane as the nigerian email scams. I think my point of the post is that it can happen anywhere and we need to fight it, if we want sites like this to continue.
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@shundiggs (184)
• Nigeria
31 Jan 07
i frankly don't have any opinion on this but i can confidently say that you claim u did not have to pay anything what about all the time you spent on the net. What about all the referals you might have done have you considered that your reputation might have been tarnished . Any site that folds up and leaves people hanging like this is a scam and thats my personal belief.
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@algie123 (289)
• Philippines
31 Jan 07
For me, scam, is the money that is not being paid at all. So that means that site is trying to deceived you so why you are waisting money to that site it is waisting time!
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@fedge098 (1331)
• Philippines
31 Jan 07
I think you should leave duno.com! Stay most of the time here my friend. Lets enjoy the myLot life! ^_^
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@cyntrow (8524)
• United States
31 Jan 07
I can enjoy a number of different sites talking with a number of different people.
@fedge098 (1331)
• Philippines
31 Jan 07
good for you mate! =)
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@shemb1 (465)
• Sri Lanka
31 Jan 07
I adivice about this site sometime ago but it is very sad when some people dont listen my discussions at all. because long time ago pople said this site never pays for them and what they did is just give a copen to buy some some else. but they said it did work at all. so I think this could be scam....
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@cyntrow (8524)
• United States
31 Jan 07
But people were getting paid, and people are still getting paid....
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@BDnLacy (324)
• United States
31 Jan 07
Well I do not know who you get your info from, I collected over 50.00 a month Duno since the 1st month it was launched. And was paid every month without fail.
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@cindy83 (133)
• China
31 Jan 07
No, I think duno is scam, it pay member nothing, though it don't need pay money for it, the member do work hardly and want to get payment, the site owner promise to pay member, but now a few people get paid, most of people not be paid. I joined it and I spend a lot of time on it, but I have not ben paid. I am so angry with it...
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@cyntrow (8524)
• United States
31 Jan 07
Actually, that is not true. Prior to all the difficulty, duno was paying their members completely and on time. I think you just came in at the wrong time.
@Bee1955 (3885)
• United States
31 Jan 07
A scam is also changing your payment procedures without any given notice and clearing out the legal earnings of the people who you promised (who agreed to the terms before joining)to pay according to scale. I had just reached the minimum when the owner came online and announced he was tired of people asking many questions online if Duno ever paid out and was changing the way he would pay out that day. Thats not business, thats fraud. Some lost up to $100.00 to be told they have to participate in a daily "jackpot" to be paid from then on and the amounts were pitiful; $1.00 - $5.00 a day if you were lucky. When asked for ckarification, he shuts down his email. So you like it so much - stay there.
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@cyntrow (8524)
• United States
31 Jan 07
Thank you, I will stay there. And here too. have a nice day
• Philippines
31 Jan 07
I am a member of duno.com I signed up because its promising... I spend lot of time there hoping that i will get paid of effort i dedicate to the site. Actually im almost on a half way to minimum payout then an amount of $46, trying to reach a $100 payout for e-gold. But suddenly their rules was changed, and they cancel my account. Its a puzzle for me, because i do not know the reason behind, why they cancel my account? Im not saying that the site is scam, although i dont have any proof of earnings from other members too. oh well i just charged it to experience.... Mylot is still the best for me....
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@cyntrow (8524)
• United States
31 Jan 07
You said they cancelled your account. As in, you can't sign in any longer??? I think they only canceled the accounts of the spammers. I also understand that Dan kept track of earnings so as to possibly pay people when the site gets back on it's feet.
@maryannemax (12170)
• Sweden
31 Jan 07
people complain because they had been promised to be paid by following the rules of a certain site. peole tried their best and spend most of their hours spending in that site because they believe that they will get paid at some point. that's why people complain. all their efforts just go to waste.
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@shooie (4985)
• United States
31 Jan 07
Sometimes people do use up a lot of time to post on the sites. Should get paid yes. Sad thing is there is a group of people that gang up and go to these sites and suck them dry.
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@willocfc (965)
• Australia
1 Feb 07
If people joined under the premise that if they responded they would earn money and get paid then i say t is a scam, people should have been paid out what was owed to them regardless of wether or not they had reached minimum payout as they no longer had the chance too
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• Philippines
31 Jan 07
yeah. i agree with you. we have no right to complain and dig out holes just to say that this site is a scam. scam, in my own words, means a contract without a real promise. people used to complain but when they realize that they have no right, why would they do it again?
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• Malaysia
31 Jan 07
Everybody hate scam. Why have scam web site in the world. Because they are bad people and they want to take your money. Don't let them do that, just stick with mylot.
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• Virgin Islands (U.S.)
31 Jan 07
i think a defination of a scam is something in which when u give something to someone to get something and u dont get that something because the someone took your something and never gave you there something.. lol.. in modern terms this means... if i payed you 50 dollars for a pair of shoes and u dont give the shoes to me and u take my money.. lol thats a scam
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31 Jan 07
I think that was a scam and would be really annoyed if I worked hard trying to earn lots of money on this site and then suddenly lost it all. It has happened to me before on another site and I haven't been back to that site since.
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@caper111 (163)
• Canada
31 Jan 07
I completely agree with you. I think I wrote something like that in the idea section. Have you read those? People ar cursing and everything. I personally think it is pathetic.
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