Special education- mainstream,inclusion or pull out

@dbcraff (162)
United States
February 7, 2007 1:12pm CST
I feel that children with LD,asbergers or high functioning Autism should be pulled out of the classroom? As a parent of 2 boys with Autism I can understand the stress these kids are undergoing i the mainstream classroom. And they aften get labeled by the teachers as the trouble makers in teh classroom because the teachers do not understand them. These kids percieve everything differently. And in most cases are falling way behind there peers in acedemics. I would like to hear from some others on this issue and your view points especially from those who have kids with these difficulties. I know there are plenty of you out there with these same frustrations as me. I use to think I was alone. Know I realize how many more children there are out there like mine. There are at last 15 in my sons school alone. I want to here from you.
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@rainbow (6761)
14 Feb 07
I am undedicdd as a genal thing, maybe it depends on the individual child. My son has Autism, ADHD, speech delay and now school are asking about Dyspraxia. He is in "regular school" we want thim to have more help but it is not happening! His audible ability is 2 years behind as he cannot process all they say and his Individual Educational Plan I could not achieve, but he does his best and school allow him 1/2 hour a fortnight with the EBSS some sot of emotional behavioural support. I have to see the teacher a week on Monday because 1 March I have to see the Peadiatrition who we have not seen for almost a year. He has another pead for his headaches and has has to have a CT scan soon and is due to see the community pead as he suffers stress incontinence occasionally and bed wetting. The bonus for Bong is that he will grow up with most of the same village kids and they tend to look after him and encourage him so he tried his best to keep up, this can be hard as he comes home and takes it out on us but won't say what's wrong.
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@dbcraff (162)
• United States
14 Feb 07
Thank you for your comment. I do understand what you are going through and it is tough. My son also suffer from stress and incontinence. I realize that maybe all kids don't belong in a special class. So maybe it should be decided case by case. I think it would be very helpful if they could be with kids who are having the same kind of problems for support. It doesn't sound like you are dealing with alot of teasing or bulling. It is great that your community is so helpful and encouraging to him. I wish mine where.
• Canada
8 Feb 07
I have one son with ASD. Currently he is in s spcial class, but we are setting plans in motion to have him in a mainstream school next year. I know what you mean - the regular classroom is stressful for them - but I also feel they need to learn to cope with mainstream society. My son will have an aid who can help him cope when he is overwhelmed, and teach him methods so that eventually he can help himself. This is, at least, my hope. I think that if we protect them too much, we make it harder for them when they are out of school and have to find a way to exist in 'the real world'.
@dbcraff (162)
• United States
8 Feb 07
I do see what you are saying and I agree But, the type of help you are able to get for your child also depends on what state you live in. My boys can not get an aide because they do not have a physical impairment. They are able to walk and run and they don't have siezures so they do not quilify for that type of help in my state. The best place I lived where the special ed program was working for my boys was VA. They had a class for these kids but, they were also but, in the mainstream classroom for things like PE, Art, Music and the playground where they would work with them on there social skills. Right now they are getting teased. Not just because they are different but also because of the way they read and when they don't understand things. The children call them things like stupid, retard and plenty of other names. They don't want to go to school. I have to pysically pick them up and carry them to the car and then carry them into the classroom. They are not learning either. Which is a really big concern. They are 11 and 9 and can not read or write. They are not going to be able to get a job lots not even talk about coping with the world around them. How are they soppose to take care of themselves when I am not here if they can't read or write. I think that is the most important thing. If they had there way they wouldn't be in school. It isn't me trying to shelter them. I just think there has to be a mediam somewhere. So that they can do both? I see you have had much better luck with your school system in getting what your child needs and I am happy to hear that.
@GardenGerty (157837)
• United States
8 Feb 07
Ideally special needs children will be included in class as long and as much as they can tolerate it. It will vary from day to day. The best school will also have a quiet place where they can be pulled out, and staff, aids or paras who can support them. That is the model of education I am familiar with. I work in public school. As a second job I work in an adult supported living environment. People with disabilities can live full, productive lives, and need to be included from the start.
@dbcraff (162)
• United States
8 Feb 07
How do you get that type of help? Because I have been unsuccesful. I have hired and advocate and it has been no help. Only emptied my pockets. I do understand that they need to be included with the other children for things. Maybe though we need to look at our educaters who have no training or understanding of these children? Maybe they should have some kind of special training to work with these kids? And I definetly think there should be some type of protection by the school for these kids. My boys both have high IQ's they do not qualify for supported living the teachers have been unable to get through to them in the classroom setting. There teachers have said they need one on one in order to learn.