For those parents who have their kids in special ed...

United States
February 12, 2007 7:55pm CST
do you think the system works or do you think they just push them along. Please give me your honest opinions. Also anyone with experience in this. I am thinking of getting my 2nd grader some tutoring through sylvan or other means. I am not happy with our school district. You would think that they just wouldn't want to push a kid along!
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@wahmbuddy (391)
• Canada
13 Feb 07
I honestly think it is a bit of both. My son gets a modified program and help where the school can provide it. I don't think he will ever be up to grade level, but I think that they do the best they can. I like the fact that he is staying with his grade level and the kids that he has been with because it is hard for kids to make new friends if they are held back and kids are cruel they would tease him. For kids with learning disabilities it is not something that is going to be fixed by going to a tutor, or by making them do a bunch of extra homework because if they just practice enough they'll get it. It's a disability, it won't go away. I say this because it took me a long time to get that fact. I have accepted it now and rejoice in what my child can do well. There are things that he does improve upon and that's great. And I also understand when he just can't do anymore (because for him, it's not won't it's that he can't) Am I rambling... I hope not, and I hope that kind of helps in what you are asking.
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• United States
13 Feb 07
I do think learning disabilities can be helped. I soo understand the more severe ones, but you don't understand the obstacles abby has already overcome. If in fact from a more objective tutor can not help her...so be it...however I am not at that point. I have a sister who has had/still does have learning disabilities. I helped her. I watched my parents totally give up on her. I am not going to be that kind of parent. I watched my sister in law do nothing to help her kids get along in school, and set a poor work ethic for them as well. These type of people totally disgust me. My mother also let my sister drop out of high school. Alot that did her....and so she gave up thinking she would never get a ged. Well I do know that drop outs with learning disabilities can get their geds. I helped my other sil get her ged...so it does not have to "dis able" someone... yes, some may not be something that can be overcome, but I want more for my daughter. I do not know your sons circumstances other than that he is deaf. Abby has absolutely NO problem doing extra work. That is the kind of kid she is, and she's remarkable. Often she seeks out the workbooks I bought for her to do. She welcomes it, and I give her plenty of breaks. This is the first year she really filled out her own valentines. What a breakthrough, to be able to feel like she doesn't have to struggle to write. Mind you, I did make her rewrite some illegible ones. I am elated with what abby has done in extra work today, and what she has accomplished. I do believe she can accomplish so much more. I so understand what you mean by kids being cruel. I was subjected to many, many, many cruel kids in my day. Believe me I understand! Oh how we wish we could shield our children. Abby is pretty social, and yes, it does hurt when someone doesn't like her, but I do think she will prevail. I have her also enrolled in an acting class. Abby didn't get in special ed because of any learning disability, she got into the program because of her speech, which I believe will end after fourth grade. At least that is what they are hinting at. They've already discontinued her p.t. Our question is to the school, is that if she is 1 1/2 yrs behind, why does not qualify for summer school. Does that make sense to you? I hope this helps you understand my pov...I know I probably sound like a real B***h
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• Canada
13 Feb 07
My son is not deaf, not sure where you got that from. I know how easy it is to get defensive when we are dealing with our children. It was certainly never my intent to offend. We all want the best for our children.
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• United States
13 Feb 07
No need to apologize. You're certainly entitled to your opinion, and I would never hold that against anyone. I wasn't trying to imply you were giving up on your son. I'm sorry if it came across that way. I just saw how my mom gave up on my sister. Abby is very capable of doing homework. I do not believe in bullying kids either. As I said before, she likes to do the extra work, and has only missed one day of school. She likes school, likes crafts, movies, anything, you name it. She is a joy to be around most times, and loves to help me. Anything to get those stickers....HEHEHEHE
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@Thoroughrob (11742)
• United States
13 Feb 07
Yes, they do just push them along. My son is 12 and in 6th grade. They are just preparing him to work in the workshop.(for the MRDD people) They are not tying to get through to him. I have been fighting for the last year and a half. It is crazy. They are not even attempting some of the things in the IEP. He is getting a communication device, and in his IEP for this year, they were supposed to be getting him to put things in catagories, because this is how the communication device works. e was supposed to have the device in August, but due to problems, it still is not here yet. But they have yet to start. Instead they are doing things way above his level.
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• United States
13 Feb 07
oh boy! I feel for you. They've attempted to reach goals in my daughters IEP. I hope things get better for you. What is MRDD? I just am at a stop here, I think she is so capable, and I am not trying to bully her. She loves to do the extra work, and just beams when things are correct. I started a reward program, get 10 stickers and get a prize. She ran all over the place doing the things she was supposed to do to get a sticker. IE, making her bed, helping with chores, listening. She just beamed when I told her I was proud of her for doing good work. I don't know why these teachers don't want to see these kids improve. Do they see them as society does? One of the "slow" kids? It's a shame it really is....and I truly mean no disrespect to teachers on this board. But I really have lost respect for the teaching industry since I have kids. I, myself didn't have the greatest high school teachers, and wanted better for my kids, this is ridiculous. Can't you complain to someone higher up about the goals and such in the Iep?
@Thoroughrob (11742)
• United States
15 Feb 07
I have been about a high as I can go, but every time we have a meeting, the teacher sounds like she is going to do things, and agrees. She just goes back to the same old things. We are in the process of making sure he is not in that class next year. I am even thinking of homeschooling, even though I don't think that is best either.
@GardenGerty (169564)
• United States
13 Feb 07
I work in special ed, and no, we do not just push the kids along, but the entire comittee has to decide when it is better to retain a child.A committee made up of a spe. ed. teacher, a regular ed. teacher, a counselor, an administrator. The parents are also included in this decision. It does not hurt to do tutoring, my supervising special ed teacher tutors during the summer, and some after school hours. I do not think Sylvan is necessarily the place to go, it seems too formula, or cookie cutter to me. I would look for a retired teacher, or an education major (these are fun, fresh, and enthusiastic.) Even a high school student could be a good tutor, if you know what areas your child is falling behind in, so that they can reinforce the learning she is getting in school. Sometimes repetition and practice is what they need.
• United States
13 Feb 07
I understand your stand in special ed, but my daughter has been in early intervention, and special ed for a while....and while she may have some special needs, she has the capability to improve I believe. I've seen her do better. I've seen her grasp concepts that her "special ed" teacher says she can not. I will consider the idea of other educators like a summer teacher....but how do I know they will want or even TRY to help my daughter along. The problem with it as I see it is that "special ed" really isn't all that "special" it is just a smaller classroom with kids that are behind, and the same old excuse teachers use...."they have too many children" As I see it this "new" no child left behind crap, is just that CRAP! sorry, my discussion, my opinion. and so yes, I am looking into other options other than sylvan, because it is sooooo pricey. I DO hope you know that I tutor my child at home as well, but I am NO expert. Which is why I inquired about Sylvan.
@speakeasy (4171)
• United States
17 Feb 07
I think it depends on the school and the people involved. My son did well with special ed thru grade 8. When it was tiem to make the change to high school they said he no longer required special ed, just being monitored and some grooup counseling. That worked OK for a while but by the time he was a Junior he was having problems and getting frustrated; (being a teenager didn't help). If you have sylvan or someting like that in your area and you can afford it; go for it. Even kids that don't have learning disabilities can benefit from them. I just wish we had had something like that available, when my son was in high school. They are supposed to be available on-line now; but, at that time they weren't.
@KrisNY (7590)
• United States
15 Feb 07
I say if you aren't happy with the school and think your child is being pushed along without learning- then by all means get extra help. Do whatever it takes to enable your child-- I know I would. My daughter is in a Extra math class.. She goes every day- I think it's great! She is getting the extra help she needs... Plus they send me home notes about what she needs to work on- We do this at home too.. I have seen a major improvement in her report card from the 1st period to the 2nd. Now on the other hand my best friends son is slow. He was adopted.. anyways he is in special ed.. I had seen great improvements with him back a couple years ago when he was in the regular classroom with an aide- Now he is in a special ed class-- He is the child that is the most advanced-- he is not getting that extra push he needs.. His mom fights left and right with the school, school board, etc. to get him back into regular classes with an aide. No money- She is seriously thinking of taking him out of the distrcit and putting into a better school for special ed. So I see that our school is pushing him through.. but helping my daughter with 1 class. I say do what you think is best for your child!
• United States
13 Feb 07
y son is is 14 and in the 8th grade he is a special class due to Adhd and behovior. He has a learning problem with math and doesnt concentrate well. I do feel that the system pushes them through.. he has had constint structure in this class and teachers always pushing him . he will be in high school next year and it scares me to think he will be all on his own..
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• United States
13 Feb 07
do they not have some special classes in high school? I don't remember.