Why do I feel this way?

@rainbow (6761)
March 10, 2007 9:49am CST
Every time one of my pals is having a baby I get so jealous and I know I'm being rediculous. Another one of my best pals has just announced she's to have a 3rd baby. Shrek has so many reasons not to have any more kids, size of home, income, already having a child with special needs, the extra work etc and I know he's being reasonable and sensible but I really hate him for it. I even consider stopping my contraception but know that would be deceiptful and wrong, so I don't. We have 2 lovely boys but I always wanted a little girl and it makes me so sad to think I'm nearly 35 and there's not a lot I want from life really but a little girl would be lovely. Talk sense to me cos it makes me miserable when I think I'm missing out and I know I shouldn't really have any more, both Roo and I had problems when he was born.
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28 responses
• United States
10 Mar 07
You have to consider if you already have one child that is special needs, what if you have a 3rd, and he/she is also special needs? Will you be able to tend to both of them, as well as the other child who isnt? Not to mention what that could do to your marriage. Is your partner wanting a 3rd? If you somehow make him want to have a 3rd, one or both of you could end up resenting the other one, and even possibly that child. That could lead to divorce, and you would be a single parent of 3 kids, and possibly two of them being special needs. Good luck!
@rainbow (6761)
10 Mar 07
Wow, that was down to earth and honest and I know all the truth, Shrek doesn't want a third child for all these sensible reasons and although I know he'll win and he's right I really struggle with this, I tend to avoid pregnant friends and new babies becaue I feel I'm missing out. Thank-you for your honesty, I know you are right but I can't get my heart to listen to my head about this.
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• United States
13 Mar 07
Maybe you will have a granddaughter.. or maybe even two! It seems like a long time from now, but it isn't! And our kids always need lots of help taking care of their little ones.. it's such a busy world. My two kids still live at home (at 26 and 24, can you believe it? It's just so expensive out there) and my daughter's daughter is eight, and has always lived here. Don't give up hope! I think you will have granddaughters.. or maybe even step grand daughters..
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@rainbow (6761)
14 Mar 07
Wow Flowerchilde, I hadn't thought of that, if Bong can find a nice girl I could be a granny in only about 10 years time, my boys are 7 and 3, lol. What a shame your kids cannot afford to leave home but what a fantastic bonus for you still seeing them and your grandaughter everyday!
@mobyfriend (1017)
• Netherlands
19 Mar 07
Rainbow I think you are like every woman. Everyone of us questions at some point or another if your family is complete and that gets worse when your biological clock keeps ticking. Maybe this is not the right time to think about this. Let the question rest for another year, see what happens in the life of your family in that year and then try to discover if you still feel the same way. I had my 2nd child when I was 38 so you still have time.
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@rainbow (6761)
19 Mar 07
Thanks moby, I think maybe later but I know it's not sensible with the life we have right now, the boys can be difficult some days and yes I know I still have time but I'm impatient, lol. That clock is ticking loudly and has for a long time, maybe in a couple of years when my implanon wears out Shrek will feel differently, who knows.
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@rainbow (6761)
19 Mar 07
thank-you so much for those lovely words, I'm sure it will work out in the end - either way.
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• Netherlands
19 Mar 07
I'm sure at some point you will make the right decision (it could be you decide to go for it) for you and your family. And just think what is more important: quality or quantity. I think you are doing a great job now with the boys. That is your quality right now.
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@Willowlady (10658)
• United States
10 Mar 07
I too would have loved more children. Now in my 40's I am glad that I have not. Would be great if I had though. lol. My kids are a real joy and I can just imagine how great to have more of that joy with more kids. whoa...they are teens now and soon will out on their own. Then it will be my time. Sleep, eat and watch television different. Time with hubby different. There is a natural order to things. Your biological clock is ticking loudly in your ear and you choose to listen to it. You state that you know you shouldn't have any more. You have a special gift that needs you. Children do cost money. Believe me in this 2 bedroom trailer with 4 of us, you really need space for the kids to move and live in. Perhaps you should step back and see things in the real light. You may see the peace you need to be happy for your friends. Be happy for what you already have. Good luck with this.
@rainbow (6761)
10 Mar 07
Thanks honey, I know all the sensible reasons and that I wouldn't cope. I had thought about fostering babies when Roo gets into full time school. It's getting worse every year, this time last year I thought I was even and I shouldn't have been and I wasn't. This month I'm going to be 35 and maybe it's to do with getting older, every spring I want a baby, and most of this last year too if I'm honest. I doubt very much that I will do this because of all my great big long list of reasons not too but I still want to, must be some crazy horomones kicking somewhere and I need to shut them up, lol. Thanks for talking sense at me, I need it at the moment!
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@rainbow (6761)
11 Mar 07
claire you are very clever, what a shame you didn't post this as your own reply. You have plenty of time to have a baby yet and I really hope it fills the hole you feel it would! I know exeactly what you mean, yes I should spend more time with my friends litte lones but it isn't the same. I am not going to have another baby as my partner doesn't want one, and I know I'm thinking of all the common sense reasons for this but the feeling just doesn't go away, maybe over time it will dwindle.
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• Ireland
11 Mar 07
I have a lot of sympathy for you because I know how you are feeling and I do think hormones has a lot to do with it. I'm only 23 but for the last ten years I've had serious feelings about wanting a baby. It's like an emptiness that can't be filled except with a baby. I can't even describe how bad it feels. Obviously, I knew at 13 that there was no chance of that happening but every time I saw a baby I would get a pain inside, as if my body was punishing me for not being pregnant or having a baby. Luckily, when I was 14, my brother was born and I practically took him on as my own child, to this day, a lot of people think he is mine. Having him around kinda took the edge of the feelings but it caused problems with my mother and myself because she was jealous of the bond I had with him. Anyway I moved out with my partner and the feelings of desperately wanting a baby just came back with a bang, they never really went away but they eased off for a while. When I was 21 I had a baby boy and I thought that would be it but even then I still had the same feelings. I had a baby girl a few weeks ago and I'm still having the same feelings, I had bad pregnancies and I don't think my body will be able for another and that makes me feel even worse. I definitely think I must have some sort of hormone imbalance or something because that can't be normal. I have a baby that is less than 3weeks old and yet I was jealous last week when I heard that someone I know is pregnant! Anyways, my point is that I understand how you feel and how hard it is but I don't think that anyone can say anything to take those feelings away. Maybe if you distract yourself with other people's babies, it will help a bit. Instead of being jealous of your friends with babies, you could maybe offer to babysit for them and you will probably be surprised by how glad you are to return them afterwards! If you can't have a baby yourself then make do with the people around you. The feeling of being in pain if you can't have a baby will disappear eventually and in the meantime you can take the edge of it. Part of it is probably because you know your partner doesn't want to have another one, you don't want the book to be closed on the issue yet and it is nice to feel like you have an option. Maybe get him to agree to think about it again in a year or so. It's not easy at all to just forget or get over things like this so I really hope you find a way to help you. Best of luck.
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@minnie_98214 (10557)
• United States
19 Mar 07
Im sorry you feel this way. I also have two boys and i know how it feels to want a little girl. Mabey you could consider volunteering with those groups that connect you with a child in needs of a role model. Its not the same but may ease the hurt a little.
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@rainbow (6761)
19 Mar 07
Thats a really good idea, I've thought about brownies and rainbows etc but Iknow most of the little ones and their mums which is nice but not really what I would like. I've thought about fostering too but this is a good idea as you have a set time to ehlp them and spend with them on a regular basis, I may look into this when things are a bit more settled with my boy, tahnk you!
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• United States
11 Mar 07
I so fully understand how you feel. I don't even have to know the pregnant lady - I still get jealous. I have two teen girls and then my son who will be 3 in June. He has special needs and was 3 months premature. I so badly want another child but I know that I shouldn't have another. We really can't afford it. I physically can't afford it (I haven't slept through the night since my son was born). I'm going to be 35 in November. I have always said that I would stop at three kids or age 35 which ever came first. Well third kids has come and I still don't want to stop. I want to so bad so I know what you feel. I am trying to get my hubby to go for the snip so I can stop worrying about it.
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@rainbow (6761)
11 Mar 07
Hi sweetie, you sound exactly like me, I'm so sorry you son has problems my oldest does and can be such hard work and as my youngest and I had such a hard time getting him here Shrek said no more. I have a thing in my arm so I cannot remove that or Shrek would know if I decieved him and be hurt so of course I could never do that. Sometimes I know its a silly idea but other times it seems like the most important thing in the world. I'm hoping that things will change and maybe he will eventually decide he wants another, maybe if I can convince myself I'm too old...
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• United States
11 Mar 07
OH you have Norplant? I thoght that came off the market. I don't think any of us can convince ourselves that we are too old. That biological clock ticks very loudly for some of us. Even when our batteries are running low. My hubby would let me have another baby if I wanted. But as much as I want I know we just can't so I am doing my best not to. Take care.
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@rainbow (6761)
13 Mar 07
Mines Implanon, I had friends with norplant years go who had lots of problems, this one has really low hormone amounts and only lasts for 3 years. It's so hard isn't it when you listen to common sense but your body says lets go for it, lol. I hope you make the decision that is right for you, I don't think I'll be having another baby at least for a couple more years until this implant wears out, things may have changed by then. I'm so sorry to hear that your son has problems too, I hope he'll be ok! Hugs to you all.
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@mel_87 (856)
11 Mar 07
hiya, maybe you want one because you know you cant have one because your partner doesnt want to see you go through a bad birth, have you spoken to him serviously about this? i hope things work out for the best for you. x
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@rainbow (6761)
13 Mar 07
Oh goodness, you don't want one yet surely? Find yourself a nice millionaire first lol.
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@rainbow (6761)
11 Mar 07
Hi Sweetie, Shrek will not be moved unless we win the lottery or something, I know it is not sensible or practical but I never ask for much really and another baby would be super. I just have to find a way to get this out of my head, lol.
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@mel_87 (856)
11 Mar 07
i sort of know how you feel cos i cant wait to have a baby and when you cant have one you want one more
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@joshdale08 (2320)
• Philippines
11 Mar 07
i started having problems with pregnancy with my second child. i bloated so much, you can't find a spot in my body to pinch coz the skin was stretched so taut. then there was the problem of post-eclampsia and so much bleeding when he was born. with my third child, it was even worst. aside from the eclampsia and the profuse bleeding, there was also the problem of severe anemia. not to mention postpartum depression. all these i was prepared to go thru with coz, like you, i so much wanted a girl. (my first 2 were boys). i was aware of the risks but i just had to have a girl. i prayed for it everytime we went to hear sunday mass. i was 35 when i gave birth to her and sure enough, the problems were there but everything's worth it. my boys are very special but a girl is just different.
@rainbow (6761)
11 Mar 07
You've really had a tough time getting you little ones here! I' m so glad you got your little girl! I had carpal tunnel, permanent sickness, pre-eclampsia with Bong and severe postnatel and reactive depression. Not to mention gaining over 4 stone in weight that stayed forever, lol. Roo was a brilliant pregnancy apart from my carpel tunnel coming back until my waters broke early, I kept going into labour and stopping for a week and finally bot hof our hearts playing up until I had to have an emergency section as I kept passing out, but we were both ok in the end. I do love my boys dearly and wouldn't mind if I had another but I never wanted little boys, just little girls. I just have to try and get the feelings worked through and left behind as I know all the reasons for not doing it and they still don't seem to be enough.
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@sylviekitty (2083)
• United States
11 Mar 07
To be honest with you, I get a slight bit jealous, but I think part of that is because imagine how much attention people get when they're pregnant? It's an exciting time, and everybody and their uncle is looking forward to this new arrival.. (nobody's thinking about the millions of poopy diapers YOU have to deal with, the midnight feedings, the lack of sleep, and so on. LOL). You're pampered somewhat, you get the joy of planning- buying cute clothes, coming up with names, painting a room, etc. Not long after my son was born, my husband and I realized we were not cut out to have any more kids. So he got fixed. Sometimes I think I'd love to have another little girl, but there's no way to guarantee that we'd have one, and there's no way to know if she'd be a typical child or not. And our son (as much as I love him) is hard enough to deal with. That and I always said I wanted two kids- boy and a girl- by the time I was 30. I got those things. I don't want to start having more kids in my 30's and risk my health while I'm at it.
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@rainbow (6761)
13 Mar 07
Hi Sylvie, that's so sensible! Thank-you for your support. I love being pregnant, I just feel so alive when I am, more than any other time really I suppose it's what we feel we are here for in a way, lol. You are lucky in that you are honest enough with yourselves to know when you have your hands full and some days mine definately are too, but other days when things are going well I feel I do not have so much to cope with really and could cope, although I probably couldn't. Time will tell, maybe Shrek will eventually decide e would like another too and a little grl would be really special.
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@hopeful28 (1439)
• Singapore
12 Mar 07
Oh rainbow, maybe you could try to talk to Shrek again and help him to understand how you feel. You have such a big heart and so much love to give that you just ache with longing to be able to pour it out on someone and what can be better than your own child. I hope he will see your point of view because I believe that finances and other considerations can be worked out. But do also consider your own stamina and health because it is true that you already have a lot of work and stress but you know yourself better. I hope you will come to a decision which you and Shrek can both accept and be happy with. Hugs!
@rainbow (6761)
13 Mar 07
Thank-you hopefull, your sweet comments and support always make me smile, maybe once Roo gets to school Shrek will feel differently about having a baby in the home as both boys will be so much older in a couple of years. I'm not worried about finances so much as bedrooms, we could always convert the attic if we were really pushed and he is a builder after all, but moving to a bigger home and a huge mortage would be silly if we can avoid it. I suppose time will tell, maybe he will decide for himself.
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• Canada
11 Mar 07
You have already stated that there are so many reasons for you not to have another child, and they're valid reasons at that. Even if things were different, you have one special needs child, and you have to ask yourself the question of whether you could handle it if the new baby was born with special needs too. Unfortunately, as females and mothers, when our friends and members of the family announce that they're having a baby, that "broodiness" sinks in and it's hard to shake sometimes. It's almost like our bodies tell us that we should be pregnant too. I don't think you're missing out hon. You have two wonderful children already and as you said that another child would put a strain on the family as a whole, its probably better to concentrate on what you have already. Be there for your best pals - they have the sleepless nights coming up, the endless diaper changes, the midnight feedings, the demand on your time. With a special needs child, could you handle all that? I'm glad my family is past all that now.
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@rainbow (6761)
11 Mar 07
I know, and I am trying honestly, it's just that inside it's not nice, I'm sure none of them really notice a difference in me. I know all the reasons not too but I have felt like this for a long time and it seems to get harder. I very much doubt I could even have another baby if I did get Shrek to agree, I just need to get the feelings worked out in my head so I can get over them. Thank-you so much for your kind words and support!
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@lvmybz (125)
• United States
12 Mar 07
Hi Rainbow We are both in the same boat, I also have a special needs child. In fact I think you have responded to some of my post. And, I also have a one year old and he seems to be typically developing. I love my boys dearly, and to tell you the truth I am pretty sold on them. Nevertheless, I still would just love a little girl, my husband even came up with a name for her. These are your feelings and you shouldn't feel bad about them. I believe wanting another child and hoping for a girl is very normal. Yet, like you said if you do get pregnant there is no guarentee it will be a girl. Both my aunts wanted a girl, and one has four boys and the other has three. Also I have heard although boys are harder at first, they tend to be eaiser then girls when they get older. Once again, don't feel bad about your feelings, just keep being a wonderful mom to your two precious boys.
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@rainbow (6761)
13 Mar 07
Hi sweetie, yes we have talked before, you are right my cousins wife wanted a girl after 2 boys and had twins, one of each - it ruined their marriage really, she now has another little girl with someone else. As twins run in the family it's a bit of a risk especailly with a special child too look after too. Who knows maybe in a couple of years Shrek will feel differently and I will get my wish, at the moment he's avoiding talking about it bless him, lol. It's very hard to know what to do for best and I ope taht is you do decide to try again you get your little girl and she is all you dreamed of.
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@stacyv81 (5903)
• United States
13 Mar 07
I cant really talk sense into ya, cuz I am the same way. Everytime someone I know gets pregnant, I get jealous. I have always wanted a lot of children. I have two, a boy and a girl. But I still get jealous when others get pregnant. I still have time to have more though, I dont know why, I do it either. My bf doesnt want anymore either, so its tough when you still want more.
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@rainbow (6761)
14 Mar 07
oh stacy, I know just how you feel it's so hard and worse as it is self inflicted, I just keep hoping Shrek will change his mind, bless you I hope your boyfriend changes his mind one day too.
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@missmas (60)
14 Mar 07
i totally understand you and the way you feel is natural.jalousy is a natural feeling and sometimes there'sno way to stop us from feeling jealous of others but the most important thing is to let love, friendship or whaterver it is be stronger than any feeling of jealousy.it's every woman's dream to have a baby girl.i haven't had kids yet but i'm always hoping to have a baby girl and when i realize that sometimes we have no control over things like that, it makes me sad.talk to your husband i know it's not easy for you to welcome a new child but it would be worth the sacrifices.at 35, you really should be trying now,if your dream girl never comes,it would be important to know that you have tried everything you could to have her.
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@rainbow (6761)
15 Mar 07
hank-you so muchfor your support, I know I need to deal with this but I really think I'll never be allowed to try for her, who knows in a couple of years things may be diferent and Shrek may change his mind, if I kep the hopein my heart maybe my dream of a little girl will come true.
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11 Mar 07
I have a simalar thing i'm 22 but i have no children of my own, i really want children but my boyfriend won't have children until we are settled and married. Everytime i hold a new baby i wish it was my own and envy the new mother... I think alot of it has something to do with maternal instincts as females its a natural instinct to want children so when a new baby is placed in our arms we feel empty and incomplete knowing we have not got a new born infant of our own. Be proud of these emotions they might hurt but it proves your a good mother and you hold natural maternal instincts
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@rainbow (6761)
11 Mar 07
It is difficult to wait when you are in love, even when you know the practical considerations isn't it? I think it is wonderful that you are so sensible about waiting! I hope you are right and I'm a good mum, I'm sure you will be one day too!
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@lilaclady (28207)
• Australia
11 Mar 07
I think you are feeling a natural instinck that is put in women to help keep us going, I have noticed a lot of my friends even the unmarried ones over the years having that need to have a baby after someone close to them has one...I think it is natural for most, but not for me, I get that way with puppies and kittens..hahahahahah
@rainbow (6761)
11 Mar 07
Yep, my dog is getting old and she's always been my baby even more than my cat, maybe a new puppy to play with would get me over this.
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@TerryZ (22076)
• United States
10 Mar 07
I think its normal to be jealous because you dont have that girl but it will soon go away. You are blessed already with 2 boys and you should be thankful for that. Some people cant even have childred so every time you get jealous just think about the people who cant bear children. And you will be fine.
@rainbow (6761)
11 Mar 07
I know it's greedy of me to want more and not at all sensible becaue of our circumstances, it must be harder for people without children, this will eventually pass but it seems to have hung around for so long already.
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• United States
10 Mar 07
I wasn't aware that you have a special needs child. I do think you should have a heart to heart chat with your husband about this. You are only 35, you still have plenty of time to have more children but it does get more difficult as you get older. But it is really important that both of you are on the same page with this. I will say this, and I'm only saying it from experience: I think every mother should get to experience the joy of having a daughter if she wants one. I have 2 sons and of course I love them as much as I love my daughter, but the bond with my girl is absolutely special. If I hadn't had a daughter I would have most certainly adopted a girl. And perhaps that is an option for you? I too had difficulties after my second pregnancy, but I had my third child and everything went fine. Sometimes you just have to have faith. Best of luck to you!
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@rainbow (6761)
11 Mar 07
Thank you honey, Bong (7) has autism and adhd and they are sending him to the physiotherapist soon to see how dyspraxic he is, but he's ok really. Shrek and I are not on the same level on this or we would be trying, if we were suddenly rich and had a big home and no financial worries then he would if we could afford some help but at the moment won't. I know he's being sensible but I've felt like this for so long I though if I got it out in the open it might go away, lol.
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• United States
10 Mar 07
I understand but for a different reason I can't have kids so for me when I hear someones pregnant it's really hard being around them. I think it's natural to miss what we don't or in my case can't have.
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@rainbow (6761)
11 Mar 07
Blees you, it must be even harder for you than it is for me, I'm so sorry
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• Singapore
10 Mar 07
why don't you try adopting a little girl? it would help a helpless little girl and you got your wish... just a suggestion...
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@rainbow (6761)
11 Mar 07
I am seriously thinking of fostering babies, maybe then I'd feel complete.
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• United States
11 Mar 07
Being pregnant and having a baby can be such a wonderful time. I can see why you would feel envious of your pregnant friends. I use to feel that way too after my two boys reached school age. I too had yearnings for a little girl. Then I decided to have another baby at age 35. He's 5 now and proof that that some families aren't meant to have little girls. Now that I'm 40, I can honestly say I don't envy pregnant women anymore. And after raising two teenage boys, I'm actually grateful I never did have that girl!
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@rainbow (6761)
11 Mar 07
Hi, thanks for sharing your story, maybe if I can deal with Roo starting school in a couple of years by the time I'm 40 this will have passed. I'm 35 in a couple of weeks, I had my boys at 27 and 31 so I'm sort of thinking when Roo goes to school how lost I'm going to be and as I always wanted a big family and little girls it is hard, to give up on the idea before I'm too old, lol.
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