Should they take them off?

United States
April 20, 2007 9:45am CST
HaHa. No, this is not a mature content discussion! I get so irritated when I go into a restaurant and see almost male diner wearing a ballcap. It seems that more and more men and boys wear the caps 24/7. My teen children tell me that I am too old-fashioned and that things have changed. They say it is no longer true that men should remove their caps in restaurants and other places. What do you think?
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@wrdsofwisdm (1069)
• United States
20 Apr 07
I think that it is ridiculous that each decade erases more customs that were set into motion years ago. It wouldn't hurt to keep some of them alive, and not wearing a ball cap while dining out isn't asking all that much. Heck, I bet that in Texas cowboys still remove their 10 gallon hats before heading to the table, lol. We need to instill common manners in our younger generations to follow. I've experienced going to a decent restaurant and having to deal with a table full of youths dressed in pajama pants, t-shirts with vile sayings or artwork on them, ball caps and knit caps, 2 gallons of offensive cologne to cover up the fact that they didn't shower, and swearing like convicts loudly throughout their entire meal. It's just not right.
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• United States
20 Apr 07
Wow, I think I was at a nearby table! Ha! Yes, that is another thing, the shirts with suggestive, or blatant writings. Now I love a good laugh, and my son has a few shirts that are a TAD suggestive. However, he knows better than to attempt to wear one of them to a nice restaurant!! I just don't get it. What, if anything, are parents teaching their children today?
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• United States
20 Apr 07
Common decency seems to be missing on the "things to teach my kids list" lately.
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• United States
21 Apr 07
Kids have lost vaules along with respect. They think they are changing the world, making it cooler, but then again we all thought that when we where there age, only difference was, we had the frear of mom or dad in us and respected what little values they instilled in us, but useing, love or fear. Now a days either seems to work on kids, after all they say they best.
@RenaeT (681)
• United States
20 Apr 07
I agree with you, but not so much that it's proper or not proper in public. I just don't like them! My husband wears one once in a awhile, usually if we've been working in the yard and we go to Lowe's real quick or something. My ex husband wore his from the second his feet hit the floor in the morning... he had about 10 in different colors, they all said the SAME thing "King Ropes Cheyenne Wyoming" on them, With a calfing rope in a laso shape around the King Ropes part. I HATED those hats, and he bought them at a feed store in CALIFORNIA for Pete's sake! My grandmother told me that there was something 'wrong' with a man who wouldn't take his ball cap off. Well, after about 2 weeks of being married to him, I decided I should have listened to my Grandma!!! LOL!!
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@chertsy (3798)
• United States
20 Apr 07
Your ex only owned 10 caps, you were a lucky woman. My husband has 10 just in Chicago Bears alone. His closet floor is covered in ball caps. Don't worry though, he has a sports jersey that goes with those ball caps, lol. So he can stand in the mirror and make sure that one cap of many goes best with that jersey.
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@mac1946 (1602)
• Calgary, Alberta
20 Apr 07
Thank you Crazynurse for bringing this up. I have read all the answers so far,and have not seen one that tells where the original reason for taking caps off inside came fromThis was and still is a military law. When military personnel are off duty and in restaraunts or bars,the only person to wear a cap,is the duty officer. Taking ones hat off is actually being classed as "out of uniform". Anyone caught with their cap on,bought the round for the house. Blessed Be.
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• United States
21 Apr 07
Wow, I didn't know this! Thanks so much, that is so very interesting. Next time I am at Applebees, I am going to go up to each man at the bar who is wearing a hat and ask for my drink! Ha! Seriously, last time we were there, hubby and I looked around the establishment and only my husband and 6 other men were NOT wearing a ballcap!
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@villageanne (8553)
• United States
21 Apr 07
Crazynurse, You are not old fashioned! It is a matter of respect and manners. I have 4 brothers who wear ball caps but never when they are indoors or at the table even if that table is an outdoor picnic table. It was custom in our home to take the hat off at the door and hang it on a nail. You would never catch any of them wearing a hat at a picnic from the time the blessing was offered till dinner was over. I think society puts too little emphisis on respect and manners these days.
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• United States
21 Apr 07
Thank you Village, it is good to know that I am not the only one who is 'living in the past.' Apprently, the new school of thought is that we should worry about bigger things than men's caps! I'm afraid that I just cant' let go of my old-fashioned values that easily!
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@howard96h (11640)
• New York, New York
20 Apr 07
Crazynurse, we are from the the "old school" and we were taught that a man removes his hat when he is "indoors" but I see many people don't follow this anymore. It is so funny, this week on American Idol Randy had on a hat and I even remarked how he should remove the hat while he's sitting there (inside) judging the contestants. I guess times have changed. In a restaurant if I see a male wearing any kind of hat I will notice it immediately and it will bother me. Exception - If a male comes in my home and acknowledges his hat and mentions a reason why he prefers to wear it, I will say say ok and then it will not bother me. That is because he acknowledged it and showed respect. So crazynurse, is this still proper or do we need to change with the times? Hmmmmmmm?
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• United States
21 Apr 07
Well Howard, I 'm getting old, and you know what they say, "Can't teach an old dog new tricks!" Ha!
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• United States
21 Apr 07
P.S. The picture you posted is adorable! I LOVE the smiley wearing a hat! Kudos!
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@dcroome2005 (1210)
• United States
21 Apr 07
I agree, I think it's rude. It's not proper etiquette. I find it happening more and more. My father in law wears a hat any time he eats. He does take it off to say prayer though before dinner. He says when he is out and about, he wears it because he has hardly any hair. Still, no excuse. My brother wore hats for about 10 months and that was only when he was going through cancer treatments and for that, I totally understand. People who have cancer and are trying to make themselves feel better by wearing a hat are the only ones I can see and understand them wearing it.
• United States
21 Apr 07
I agree that wearing a cap during the baldness from chemotherapy is totally acceptable.
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@Trace86 (5030)
• United States
20 Apr 07
Manners never go out of fashion. I love seeing a man remove his cap to a woman. I do think men should remove his hat when eating, unless he's at the ballpark. My husband wears his Sox cap all weekend everywhere. There was a boy at work who wears a stocking cap all the time. The boss finally told him he couldn't wear it while he was working.
• United States
20 Apr 07
I think it all depends on what type of restaurant. If it is nice, expensive one and people are dressed up then I agree but if it is just a casual place or a fast food joint then I don't think it matters.
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• United States
20 Apr 07
If one wants to wear their ball cap while eating fast food...go to the drive thru window.
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@sigma77 (5383)
• United States
20 Apr 07
I have no clue as to what is ok or not anymore. I have never worn any hat or caps. It doesn't bother me if others are wearing them. Who makes up all these silly rules anyway? I just don't see what difference it makes in most public places. If you are upset or irritated with the "new" practice of leaving hats and caps on, I respect your feelings and hope you can find peace in nowing that you still have a choice.
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20 Apr 07
I agree with you here hun, I don't like seeing guys in restaurants wearing hats. It has always struck me as bad manners and when you see some men in baseball caps, eating with their fingers sometimes, it just turns me right off.
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@dfinster (3528)
• United States
20 Apr 07
I think men or women should remove their caps when in a restraunt. My dad absolutely hates it even at his own house when my brother or nephew is wearing a ballcap and don't take it off when we sit down to eat. His rule is "if you're at the table and want to get fed, the hat comes off." I don't like it if someone sits down to eat at my house and wears a cap either.
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20 Apr 07
Simple answer; Yes inside a respectable place, No if it's just a general dinner etc. Most don't really care these days because it's just a hat with a old outed rule, which isn't considerate to people who feel uncomfortable. ~Joey
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@rabi9634 (419)
• United States
20 Apr 07
I'm with you on that one. Someone wearing a cap at say, McDonalds or Burger King is a good example of where you shouldn't have to take it off. It's too casual for it to matter. On the other hand, when you get seated and have a waiter/waitress at a decent establishment, then by all means take it off. Now, I think a big part of all this is that the younger generation just doesn't have the respect that the older generations did. Just look at professional and college sports during the national anthem. I'd like to smack all of the kids that leave their hats on for it. Ah well. Times change.
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• United States
20 Apr 07
You are right to be irritated. It is down right rude to wear any sort of hat while eating a meal. Taking off one's hat is a sign of respect, to the esteblishment, the people you are with and the cook (chef). I don't allow them at the dining room table either.
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@RenaeT (681)
• United States
20 Apr 07
Sorry, I never answered your question!! YES! To the guys: Take them off! Leave them at home! If you MUST wear one, wear a CLEAN one and don't pull it down over your forhead and NEVER wear it backwards! my 2 cents :)
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• United States
20 Apr 07
Oh yes, I forgot to mention that it especially ires me when the caps are worn backward! Now correct me if I'm wrong, the entire purpose of the cap is to protect one's eyes and face from the sun when involved in an outdoor activity. To my knowledge, there is no sunshine in an indoor building!! Why wear it backward, except of course in an attempt to look cool?!
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• United States
20 Apr 07
I remember a time when a lady wore a hat in public places and it was considered perfectly acceptable. Today there are fewer women donning a hat. Men seem to be the majority of those wearing hats today. Society in past years would frown upon a man not taking off his hat when entering a public place. My upbringing causes me to want to see the man take off his hat in such places. But, today, it is not so pressing an issue. Times have changed.
@inked4life (4224)
• United States
20 Apr 07
I have to waer a cap at dinner otherwise my food will be full of hair, that's how badly I'm balding....hehe. I rarely wear a cap (except to shade my head from the sun when it's really hot), and if I do I usually always take it off when inside. It's definitely a fashion thing at the moment with the kids, now if they could only figure out how to wear them properly, and how to remove the sales tags.
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• India
21 Apr 07
lol wearing a cap 24/7 would only stink you head. may be they like that way. i wear a cap only when its too hot outside. not in restaraunts anyway.
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• Singapore
20 Apr 07
Oh this is so funny. You just tickled me. In Singapore, it is very "shameful" to be wearing a cap. This is because *only* army boys wear caps (they are required to have their hair shaved).
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@easy888 (10405)
• Australia
20 Apr 07
LOL. I do not mind people wearing a cap when they are eating, as they do not affect me at all, the cap is part of their costumes,(At least that is what they think),but may be people may feel strange why do they wear it even when they are eating. As from my observation,people will take off their caps when they enter some places like restaurant, and they will wear it again after they just get into the room.
• Malaysia
20 Apr 07
actually.. last time.. i used to wear caps too.. nowadays.. more and more people wearing caps.. in my country.. it's almost all the male!.. except working ones of course..they think it's a fashion.. and .. yes.. i do think the same.. isn't that true? wearing colourful caps.. and so on... it does look cool.. but.. i think it will bring adverse effect on the wearer.. i heard that if your hair getting less and less air.. it will become unhealthy..and might drop off!!.. if you don't want to be bald.. then stop wearing it.. or you can always prove that i'm wrong.. i also need to know the true fact :)
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