why secular schools are bad... a punch from christianity

Canada
May 22, 2007 10:22pm CST
"secular schools can never be tolerated because such a school has no religious instruction and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith... we need believing people" do you agree with this statement?
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• United States
24 May 07
No. I know many people of good character who are not Christian. Some secular schools, however, are teaching things that are incompatible with Christian beliefs. That's a valid reason to remove a child from said school, IMO.
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• Canada
24 May 07
noo, not "christian".. just religious
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• United States
24 May 07
The same applies. Character and morality do not depend on practicing a religion, although one's religion may determine one's values. Same goes for removing kids from school-parents have the right to remove a child from school if the school is teaching things incompatible with the family's belief system.
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@Galena (9110)
24 May 07
no. schools shouldn't have religious INSTRUCTION, they should have religious EDUCATION. morals and character don't come from religion. after all, it's better for someone to want to do what is right because they beleive it to be right than because their religion says so. I was raised in a Pagan family, and it's kind of hard to explain how that works to someone not raised like that. Pagans don't tend to teach their children the religious side of it, they teach them to be respectful and to question and learn and trust their instincts. my morals are my own. I beleive we should respect others. I beleive we should be kind. I beleive we should be loyal to the ones we care for. I beleive cheating on your partner is wrong. I beleive cruelty to animals or children is inexcusable. I beleive we have a duty to look after the planet. I beleive factory farming is an abomination. I beleive these things because they are important to me, not because my religion says so. I don't beleive that children should be taught that any religion is definitely the right one. as soon as they are old enough to start asking spiritual questions, they are old enough to make their own spiritual choices. the thing is you see, you don't choose what religion you beleive in. you can't choose to beleive or not beleive anything. you either do or you don't. what you beleive is shaped by a lot of different things. how you are raised, what you read, your basic character, your life experiences. a lot of things can shape what we are likely to beleive, but if you don't beleive something you can't decide to, and if you do beleive something then you can't decide to stop. I'm all for religious education for children. learning ABOUT religions. different religions. it helps mixed communities understand each other. it helps children find their way on their own spiritual path. but schools are to teach them proven facts. religions, whichever one you beleive, are not proven, no matter how much as an individual you beleive in their truth, each person has to approach it themselves and find truth or no truth in it.
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@gardengrrl (1445)
• United States
24 May 07
I agree with galena, public schools should only teach about religions, many religions, and not provide instruction on the dictates of any particular faith. it is the family's job to build a framework for a child to construct a moral life on. I am frankly amazed at the things some parents are willing to cede to the public schools to teach. Just grow up and be the parent, for heaven's sake!