Private or Public schools for children? How did you decide?

@ljcapps (1925)
United States
May 30, 2007 8:55pm CST
That's actually something my wife and i are going through right now. Our son is 4, and will start preschool this year, he's an only child so we kindof want to get him integrated with other kids his age. We've been to several preschools looking around trying to find the right one for him, and we've also been considering schools when looking in different towns to buy a house. So the town we've settled on has public schools, and it also has a private catholic school. Now my wife and i aren't catholic, but my inlaws are, so they're familiar with the people that run the school, and the school itself. the thing we're concerned about with the private, is after 6th grade, he'd have to go public, and that would be culture shock!! and with neither my wife nor i being catholic, we're a little concerned with the bible study portion of it also. how did you decide where to put your kids, and what type of questions did you ask to make sure it was the right one for your child? any advice would be deeply appreciated. He's an only child, and we want to make sure to give him all the opportunities that we can!
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• Philippines
31 May 07
Well that's long decision making. For me, because I'm a catholic so I would rather enrol my child in a catholic school. But because neither of you is a catholic you must decide where to put your son that will inable him to catch up not only his lessons as well as his peers. Get surveys of the schools around you and compare which is better who could give your son the best education. I hope I did help you. :)
@ljcapps (1925)
• United States
31 May 07
You did! I never would have thought of the survey idea, and it's a good one. The teachers at the catholic school are all very nice people, and good with children, and their teacher child radius is 1 teacher to 8 kids until 3rd grade, and then it's 10 kids, so we like the radius, but at the same time, he'd be going to public schools in 7th grade and on, and we want him prepared for public. But i do like the survey idea, very much. Thank you!
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• Philippines
31 May 07
You're always welcome! I'm very happy to know that I did help you. :)
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• United States
31 May 07
I was in public school through the 7th grade. When from 6th till 7th I was made fun of EVERY day and I was crying ALL the time. My parents decided to find a way to put me in private school. I was miserable. So that is how we went from public to private. I would do the same for my kids any day.
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@ljcapps (1925)
• United States
31 May 07
That's awful that you had to go through that. If my son were in the same position, i would do the same for him. School is difficult enough without other children being cruel, and i remember quite clearly that children can be some of the most cruel creatures on the earth when they're not taught to appreciate diversity, and that money doesn't make the person. you're right, ultimately, whatever we choose, we would change the decision to make him happy.
@magikrose (5429)
• United States
31 May 07
This is something all parents have to decide. For me and my husband it was an easy decision. We both went to public schools and came out fine and we both had very pleasant experiences and unpleasant. I feel that you need both to grow strong. Dont dwell on it too much. What you might want to do is list the pro's and con's of all kinds of schools you have considered and take it from there.
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@ljcapps (1925)
• United States
31 May 07
My wife and i both went to public schools and turned out reasonably well. LOL reasonably. I think a big part of it is in what area you went to school in, b/c some states have a much better public schooling than others. Both my wife and I had the problem of getting bored in classes and then our grades would slip, until we hit high school and they offered advanced courses. I guess if we start to see that in our son, we'll at least recognize the signs!!
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@chertsy (3798)
• United States
31 May 07
Don't forget the school zones. We moved to a neighborhood with the belief our kids would be going to this one particular school. Well, I guess everyone was thinking the same thing, so they changed the zone for our community. My oldest has one more year at the school before she goes to the middle school that we wanted her to go to. So when my youngest is in the first grade, I get the joy of dealing with 2 schools that are far apart from each other. The first day of school is going to be such joy. The coming school year isn't so bad, my oldest goes 3 days before my youngest.
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@ljcapps (1925)
• United States
31 May 07
Wow, that sounds like it's just a joy and a half. My wife was just telling me a story about when she was growing up. the city changed the school zones, and it went right through the middle of their house. They wanted to send her to one school and her brother to another b/c of where their bedrooms were. LOL needless to say, their mom stepped in and said, i don't think so. In the town we're moving too, besides the private school, there's two elementary schools, and where our house is, it's in the zone for one of them, and my mother in laws house is in the zone for the other. so whichever school we choose, we'll put the address down that corresponds with it. LOL yes, it's cheating.....but oh well.
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@ljcapps (1925)
• United States
31 May 07
LOL Darn!! It'll be worth asking what they require though, just in case! I'm just hoping it won't have to come down to that. We've got time to eyeball all the schools in our area, so we've got plenty more time to think of it.
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@chertsy (3798)
• United States
31 May 07
If it's like here, you have to show proof of your address and not just one either.It has to be a ultility bill, cable bill and water bill as proof. I guess to many people tried to cheat the system, lol.
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• United States
31 May 07
If you have a good public school district (see your states website for standardized test scores and stats on incidents of violence) you should not be worried about public school. Good socialization will happen in any school where the faculty can focus on teaching and not disciplinary issues. You should be aware of even a Catholic Schools merits and reputation as well. I can not speak for all Cities but I do know that Children of all faiths (including Jewish and Muslim)attend Catholic Schools in NY City as an alternative to poor public schools. As many issues as the Catholic Church has- they have got a handle on this one. You should ask about the aspects of religious instruction and what level of participation in services, sacraments and events of the Religious Calendar will be expected of your child and you. Trust me the admissions commitee has answers for you. If your son has to switch to public school, having other aspects and hobbies outside of school remain somewhat constant will help with culture shock. Take a deep breath the right decision will come to you when the time comes.
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@ljcapps (1925)
• United States
31 May 07
Thank you very much!! That is all very, very good advice, and definitely advice i'll take. We live in Kentucky, so maybe that will help explain some of the reasons we're concerned about schools. We're not in Lexington, Louisville, Newport, or any of the areas like that, so we're not extremely concerned about violence, but more, whether he'll get a good education or not. We thought about home schooling him for awhile b/c between my wife and i, we're both pretty intelligent people, but we wanted him to get the school experience with other children, because we truly believe that will ready him for other experiences in life. Plus, hopefully he'll come out of it with some good friends for life. But once again, thank you very much for the advice. It is much appreciated!
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• United States
31 May 07
I am glad this was helpful. I understand you are trying to make a good decision when it comes to possibly choosing a new home. School Districts is probably one of the biggest reasons people struggle with a decision like that. Do not fear Catholic schools because it will isolate your child from the real world like the person who said they went to a Christian Academy. The Catholic School experience is a little more worldly than that. I went to a small public school in a great community. The school rivaled most colleges at the high school level . My friends went to a Catholic School because their public school option was not so great. They were by no means harmed by the experience. I also think the Pagan thing mentioned by the other writer was funny mainly because many of the traditions of the Catholic Church were ironically derived from Achient Roman Pagan traditions early in the development of Christianity... .But that is a whole new discussion. My family is Sicilian American and Catholic and most of my realtives my grandparents generation and older could not tell the difference between Pagan traditions and Catholic ones because they were so intertwined in their culture. It made growing up interesting to say the least.
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• United States
31 May 07
oops! excuse my spelling errors
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@collstarx (1177)
• Indonesia
31 May 07
I think public schools good for the children, they can interaction with other people and I think is very important for the children. Best regards
@ljcapps (1925)
• United States
31 May 07
Thank you for your regards, they are well appreciated. I think we're leaning more and more towards public schools. As long as we're well involved with his school activities, and his school, then it should be alright. I'm just having a hard time imagining my wife in the PTA. LOL
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• United States
31 May 07
For us it was all about the money. We have 4 kids and my husband doesn't make much money. We couldn't afford anything but public school. Where we live there are no public preschools. They are all private and cost and arm and a leg (from $3000-$8000 a year for preschool/kindergarten). I had 2 preschool aged kids this year and neither of them went to school. They just hang out with me at home. We are moving this summer and I don't like the public schools there so I will be homeschooling my oldest two (for 2nd and kindergarten). As for the Catholic school thing: I went to Catholic school from Kindergarten all the way through 12th grade and loved it. I am not Catholic, never was. My dad was raised Catholic but was an atheist when he enrolled me. It was just about the education. The public schools were over crowded and underfunded so he sent us to the Catholic school. It was tough being the only non-Catholic at school but it taught me to be strong and changed what I believe in religion. I was a Christian and believed in god and identified with Catholics but I wasn't technically a Catholic (since I have never been baptized). Now I am agnostic (by my own choice). In my opinion, if the public schools are good then send the kids there. Religious schools are for the deeply religious who want to in doctrine their kids before they have minds of their own or for when the public schools are so bad there are no other choices. But that is just my opinion.
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@ljcapps (1925)
• United States
31 May 07
"In my opinion, if the public schools are good then send the kids there. Religious schools are for the deeply religious who want to in doctrine their kids before they have minds of their own or for when the public schools are so bad there are no other choices. But that is just my opinion." That very neatly reflects our opinion in a lot of ways. I've been trying to tell people that we are not Catholic, and we want our son to be able to choose his religion, rather than being taught his religion. There are things about catholicism that my wife likes, and seriously dislikes. the dislikes tend to outnumber the likes. We're leaning more and more towards public schools. it's a small area we live in so i'm not really worried about overcrowding. Now we will be paying a great deal for preschool, but he's an only child and we want him to be able to integrate with other children well before he starts kindergarten.
• Nigeria
31 May 07
to be frank, the standard of education here in nigeria is on the brink of a collapse and was only saved by the springing up of private schools. So i think private schools have really lived up to the billing in my own country and as regards the course curricula, they are the best when you compare them with public schools
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@ljcapps (1925)
• United States
1 Jun 07
You're in nigeria? See, that's what i love about mylot. I don't just get advice, and knowledge from my next door neighbors, even the person 100 miles away, i also get it from someone on another continent completely. i think that's absolutely amazing! Then thank goodness for private schools there. I'm sure that there are probably many people who can't afford them, and that's awful, but at least there's still a chance for knowledge. I'm lucky enough not to live in an area in the U.S that's extremely violent or overcrowded. I'm very lucky that my biggest concern is making sure that he's got enough outlets for his creativity, and that they will challenge him enough that he'll actually learn rather than just blow through the courses.
@brokentia (10389)
• United States
31 May 07
The fact that we have several children and can not afford private school was a good deciding factor for us. But since that is not a deciding factor for you...you will also have to take into consideration the religion. If you and your wife are not Catholic, how would you feel about your child being raised Catholic until he was to enter Middle School? How are the public schools rated? If you don't know about the website...there is a website that you can see how they are rated at: http://www.greatschools.net/ There some parents may even leave feed back for the school. But it shows tests scores and more to help you determine which school you would prefer. Good luck!
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@brokentia (10389)
• United States
31 May 07
I can see your point about the cost. :) Personally, I wouldn't want to raise my child Catholic. Don't get me wrong, I respect every religion. But like you, I want it to be a choice and not forced. Besides, I don't think the Nuns would take it too well that we are practicing Pagans. LOL So while they would be celebrating Christmas...we would have the Yule. LOL Noo...my kids being in a Catholic school wouldn't work out too well. ha ha
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@ljcapps (1925)
• United States
31 May 07
LOL we're pagan also. but the funny thing about this particular church, or the people that are in it, don't really care. I don't think they actually think pagan when they see us, but they see my wife with the tattoo's, and about once a year we go to church with them for a surprise, but they're always very polite to me, and well mannered, and don't blink an eye. Long hair, goatee, mustache, doesn't seem to faze them. Until gas got so high, my wife was taking my mother in law to choir practice, and she'd sing with them just b/c she likes to sing, and even being noncatholic pagan that she is, they tried to convince her to sing with them on sunday. I'm not sure these people are real!! LOL but we're leaning more and more towards public school. If they activities at school aren't challenging enough, then we can come up with some at home!
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@ljcapps (1925)
• United States
31 May 07
I just learned there was a website, but thank you for giving me the actual address!!! The whole basically being raised as a Catholic is probably one of the things that concerns us most. If later on in life he wants to be catholic, we will support him 100%. but we'd like him to have the choice to believe in something, rather than being taught to believe in it. Does that make sense? And to be completely honest, the price of the private school isn't THAT much more than what we've been paying for daycare, and what we'll end up paying for preschool. I just want him to have a good experience in school, and to be challenged. Not challenged to the point where he's completely frustrated, but good creativity challenged. So i will definitely check out that site. thank you!
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• United States
31 May 07
I haven't had to worry about this yet as my son is only a year old. But my mom put me and my brother into a private school to start off with. Then when we were older we wanted to move to public school and she let us. We didn't have any problems transitioning to the public school. So I say you could always try the private school and if it doesn't seem right for him then switch him to the public school.
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@ljcapps (1925)
• United States
31 May 07
That's very good advice, and definitely something that we'll take into consideration. we just want him to be academically challenged, and happy. School can be so hard without feeling like an outcast on top of it.
• Philippines
31 May 07
you only have one child. I suggest you should bring him into private school so that he will get more knowledge and he will get monitored well in a private school. Are yo going to deprived your only son and child? Might as well bring him into a very good school so that you won't have regrets when he grows up. Remember always that knowledge is power. you should not deprived him of these things.. Goodluck!
@ljcapps (1925)
• United States
31 May 07
Thank you for the good luck, but i think deprive is a pretty strong word. We don't live in an area where overcrowding or violence is a large concern, or that he'll be without something for being put in a public school. we'll choose one where he gets the support and challenges that he needs whether it's one or the other, and he'll also be receiving that from home. I don't think deprivation comes into it.
@wachit14 (3595)
• United States
31 May 07
It sounds like you are really putting a lot of thought into your child's education and that's really great. If I were you, I would definitely have the very same concerns. Unless this private school excels academically over the public school, then what would be the benefit of your child attending a private school? He will have to integrate into the public school system at some point so this is something that you defninitely need to consider. So, when interviewing the schools and you can certainly interview both the public and private schools, ask questions about academic performance, although those records should be made public any way. The most important thing is you want to know that your son will be prepared well if he should choose to go to college at some point. Good luck to you.
@ljcapps (1925)
• United States
31 May 07
I appreciate the luck! And the fact that you seem to understand exactly where we're standing with his education questions. A friend has given us a good site where we can start our research by looking at the census in the area. And i hate to say this, but another thing that's making us lean more towards public schools, is not just the fact that he'll have to integrate into public at some point, not just the diversity that he'll be introduced to, or even the extracurricular activities that will be open to him, but it's something very simple. The public school has a huge fenced in playground, with playground equipment. I'm a firm believer that small children really NEED to play. That's a huge source of their creativity. The private school we're looking at, doesn't have a playground. it's actually part of a fenced in parking lot, that they can play basketball or four square. I really don't think that lets the natural exuberance of children out. I know that may seem like a small petty worry, but to me it seems like something that's actually pretty valid.
@RhodaK (177)
• United States
31 May 07
We happen to live in an area where the public school system is good. That was a super plus for us. There is a christian school, but the kids who have come out of there sometimes "have something to prove" when they get out and get into the public system. I've seen it here a lot. If you are not Catholic, that would not be a good choice I don't think. Even though your inlaws are. They may teach "bible" things not the same way you would and that would mean big conflict in the family.
@ljcapps (1925)
• United States
31 May 07
That's also a big concern for us. I don't mean just that he would be taught differently than we believe, but that he would be taught at such a young impressionable age. We want our son to be able to choose his religion, rather than be taught his religion. Does that make sense to you? On top of that, we are concerned about the transition he would ultimately have to make from public to private. b/c the next school for 7-12 that is private, would be about 2 hours away from where we are buying our house, which is just too far to try to commute for a child. It would make his life all about school, and kids need more than that in their lives. But ultimately i think the decision will be made when we start to meet the teachers, before we decide which school to enroll him in.
@dania13 (96)
• Canada
31 May 07
Hello! i had been teacher more 15 years in public school, even i am in Canada i think public school is allright. Only when my dauhgter got 13 yo she asked to go to private school because other children were laughing at her because she was studying with interest!! So, maybe for highschool then that will be better in private school. Problems now are coming from Street Gangs every where. **It is very easy to choice a private school just go there to visit... you will see by yourself the atmosphere, the programs they offer, activities also, study time in special room... My daughter is diabetic type.1. since she is 10 yo and they took care specially about it, they put a little fridge in her room for her insulin , a religious teacher was in charge to guard day and night on the floor there in rooms area, so no big fun, loud noice or party late in evening... She is now graduated from university as super-nurse, she work in Psychiatry dept. of a good hospital, she is married and mom of a cuty daughter 18 months old!! - a fact is: check carefully the FRIENDS more than the schools system sometimes it is more and very important for your child lifestyle!!
@ljcapps (1925)
• United States
31 May 07
Thank you for your input!! It is deeply appreciated. We plan on being very active in both his schooling activities, and in his activities with his friends. Life is a lot different now than when we were growing up, and could run around all day playing with friends that we'd just met. Now, before we ever left our son alone with the daycare people we had copies of certificates, and license plates numbers from their cars. Safety, and security, need to be taken very very seriously in this day and age. I think that was a wonderful choice for your daughter b/c you knew there were people there that would act in case of emergency. Part of our problem is that he'd be going into a public school in 7th grade, as the closest private is several hours away, rather than to private in 7th grade. That's a big part of our decision making process now. But i appreciate your input, it's nice to hear the positive as well as the negative.
@abednego7 (1060)
• Philippines
31 May 07
Well personally I want my children to study in private to have a better education since its not crowded there unlike in public but the problem is that nowadays its too expensive here in our country to enter a children in a private schools. In you case, if you don't mind the price of the education in private school, I think you should go for it. I believe a better education at early stage would help them to be competitive when entering to much higher education.
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@ljcapps (1925)
• United States
31 May 07
I, too, believe that a good education started early is the basis for succeeding in life. Not necessarily to become a doctor, or lawyer, or whatever, but just to succeed in what he chooses to do in life. Fortunately, we don't live in a large suburban area, so i'm not as concerned about overcrowding as i might have been. We really need to do some research into the schools in that area. We've been given a good website by a friend that allows us to see the census in that area, and that will be a good thing. But ultimately, it will be meeting the people who will become such a big part of his life, that will probably be a big part of the decision.
@Deane_2005 (1644)
• Philippines
31 May 07
I think if his an only son and you could affor tomake him study in private institutions then go on. I think if the quality of education is much better in private school and I could afford it why not. I mean why not hampered the growth and education of your child if you could both financed it.
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@ljcapps (1925)
• United States
31 May 07
If it came to it, we would find a way to afford it no matter what. We want to make sure which will fit his needs better. And to be quite honest, our needs also. Many of the children that go to the Catholic school, are actually Catholic. It is open to religions of all kind, but we are not Catholic. There's a lot of factors that we're trying to figure out. Either way, we'll be an active part of his schooling, so we'll find out quickly if it's the right choice for him or not.
@igloo85 (150)
• China
31 May 07
If you have enough money, u can choose private school. I think it will value its price. If you haven't, choose the public school, it will be all right. After all, your son is only 4 years old. And the more important thing is the teachers in the school you choose should possibility and love children.
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@ljcapps (1925)
• United States
31 May 07
you're absolutely right. I remember having teachers that just seemed like they didn't care about the children anymore. And that's not the kind of situation i want my son in, b/c a teacher that cares about all of their students, could be the one teacher that makes a difference in that child's life. If we chose the Catholic school, one way or another we'd find a way to afford it. If we go with the public, i think we'll probably end up taking a chunk of that money that we spent on private education and putting it away in a college fund for him. I just want to make sure that all his options are open. That's part of the reason we're only having one child.
@azimsay (543)
• India
31 May 07
If there is a privet school but whether it near by house. How to teach the teacher .kids grow up they can go alone to school.In school there is some activities in school our children learn them.Teacher take study theirself.Give love to our children,then it privet or public school.
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@forisuru (217)
• Sri Lanka
31 May 07
Dear Friend, of course i do. i have my childhood friends with near by me.that's what we call as a real friendship.even they don't live near my house. but i make contact him when i am free. Thanks
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@forisuru (217)
• Sri Lanka
31 May 07
Dear Friend. I think privete school is good than a government school. Because then u can get much more attention from teachers to your son. Thanks
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@ljcapps (1925)
• United States
31 May 07
Thank you for responding! i appreciate anyone's advice and input on this subject. Our son's education is very important to us.