My Ex Refuses to take Daughter

@stacy624 (2776)
Canada
July 2, 2007 9:17am CST
Ok so here is the deal. I married my Ex husband back in 1996 being only 18 years old, When we married I was pregnant with my daughter who was not from the man I married. He and his family knew this and had accepted her into the family with open arms. When she was born my Ex said he wanted to raise her as his child and we had even went and put her under his last name at birth. Anyhow we have Since then had 3 more children and soon later divorced. My Ex came a couple weeks ago to pick up our children Cierra, Jessica, Britney and Reuben, When Reuben the dad said we needed to talk, He had informed me that he will be No longer taking Cierra any longer that she has another dad and she needs to be with him. The twist here is Cierra's Biological dad has just moved to Halifax to start work out there. Anyhow Reuben told Cierra as she was in the van waiting to go for the visit to get out. I was SHOCKED!!! I couldn't believe what I was hearing, I am wondering if this happened to your child how would you have handled this? Thanks so much for reading and your response in advance Stacy
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@castleghost (1304)
• United States
2 Jul 07
I don't think that there is much that you can do on a legal note. On a more personal note I think I would explain to Cierra what a selfish person he is being. Be honest with her an let her know that it is nothing that hse has done and in no way is it her fault that he is now acting like a jerk. There are times when some people just don't think about what their actions will do to another person.
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@stacy624 (2776)
• Canada
2 Jul 07
You are so right, I brought this up with my lawyer and he said that there is nothing I can do if he doesn't want to take her =( I have been trying to explain to her and letting her know that its there loss that they are missing out on a great daughter, I don't think she fully understands all thats going on she 10, But Mike (my common law of 7 years and I) have been doing everything in our power to show her LOVE! It just really bothers me that Reuben could be a dad for 10 years and now that him and his wife just had a new baby (few weeks ago) she is no longer welcomed =( Thank you for sharing your thoughts =) Stacy
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
2 Jul 07
OUCH!!! What a horrible spot you are in. I agree with all the others. Reassuring her that this is not her fault is very important. What is really going to be tough is keeping the negative emotions about him hidden from the other kids. I can't imagine his reasons but there is no justification in hurting a 10 yr old whether she is his or not. And what about the grandparents? are they ok with this? did she lose them too? This is such a sad story.
@dfollin (24290)
• United States
15 Jul 07
That is great that the grandparent's are going to keep her in the family.They should.And she is right to be surprised at her son.If I were his mother I would tell him that he was not part of the family anymore and see how he like's a taste of his own medicine.Yes,you are a smart lady.You do not want your kids growing up doing actions like their father is doing.It sound like to me that he better keep his pant's zipped and not to date woman that alrady have a child or are pregnant because he obviously can't handle it.He has bit off more than he can chew.This is sad.I'd ask his new wife,if she could trust that he will never do that to her child,the one she already had.He really needs a talk with his pastor.
@stacy624 (2776)
• Canada
2 Jul 07
I have for sure try to keep encouraging her and letting her know what he did was not right and not her fault. I want all the kids to see what their father is doing is NOT right or fair in any way. I don't want any of my kids to think this kind of action is proper. His mom called me when she heard of this and couldn't believe it herself but told me her son took the responsibility of her before she was born and they accepted her into the family and she is still a part of even though her son has done this. Reuben has no idea what he is doing.....He has a 13 year old son who he never sees or pays for then my 4 which the one he dropped out of his life, and now his new wife's daughter and their new born son. Its not Me him, his wife or parents who are suffering its his kids and it seems he doesn't care. Thanks so much for your response Stacy
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
3 Jul 07
You are a smart lady. You are right. While I normally don't agree that it is ok to talk negative about a kid's parent, it is also wrong for them to think that it is ok how he is treating their sister. My ex was a pretty scummy character. Until reading your story, I thought he was the lowest. I will say that he always included mine that were not his in any fun activity or any time they wished to join him. Thankfully the grandparents don't support him in his actions! Good luck...hang in there. It sounds as if you are handling it all the best that you can.
• United States
2 Jul 07
If his name is not on the birth certificate as the father and if he didn't adopt her then there is nothing you can do about it. She is not his child in the eyes of the law. I think it would hurt very badly when something like this happens to your child but I don't think there is much you can do about it. Does she know her real father at all? Even knowing there is someone out there that loves her could help.
@stacy624 (2776)
• Canada
2 Jul 07
His name is on the Birth Certificate thats the funny thing, When I was pregnant with her Reuben said he wanted to be her Father and told his family the same. There is nothing I can do which is mind blowing but I guess its better for her not to around people who don't really want her there. I have meet up with Cierra's Biological dad just before Christmas there and we discussed the fact that he was her father he appeared to be thrilled and excited but has now since Fri left to work out in Halifax. (in my eyes just another big disappointment for Cierra) But my common law partner who I have been with since Cierra was 5 is still here Loving her and being here for her and I guess thats all that should matter. I just hope Cierra can learn to understand this for only being 10 I think No child should go through such a thing. Thank you so much for your Response Stacy
@dfollin (24290)
• United States
15 Jul 07
Your right, no child should go thru that.If there is another father figure in the picture then maybe he can make her feel wanted as a daughter.
• United States
2 Jul 07
I have 3 kids by 3 different guys. My oldest child's father passed away when he was almost 5. My middle daughter was born without a father on the birth certificate. The father of my youngest has been in and out of prison for the last few years. He is the Godfather of my son and my oldest daughter is named after him. There has always been a closeness with him and the kids, but they don't get to see him because of his choices. Now I'm with a guy that loves all of them equally with no favoritism. Sometimes we have to go through some rough things with our kids, but it's better she learn now what kind of person he is. I think it's pretty dumb of him to put her off like that. He doesn't know what he is missing now, and he has no idea what he will be missing in the future. He was man enough to put his name down as her dad, doesn't he know that DNA is only a group of letters that define our genes??? DNA does NOT spell out who loves us and who doesn't. Tell him to grow up and take responsibility. Your little girl doesn't know what she needs to do to get Daddy to love her like the others. It's ridiculous that he does that to a little girl, and I think he's a coward. Anyone can make a baby, but it takes someone special to be a parent. It's too easy to say 'she's not mine', it's alot harder to say 'I love you and I can't wait to see you this weekend'. At least that's the way it seems to me.
• United States
2 Jul 07
If at birth he signed the certificate, he is legally her father. Of course, this means nothing if he refuses to take her for visits. Even bio dads arent REQUIRED to visit their children. He is required to support her. As for telling her what is going on, I would make HIM explain it. I'm sure there is more to this story though. Good luck and know that everything always works out in the end. Maybe not the way you want or expect but it will work out.
@KissThis (3003)
• United States
2 Jul 07
Awe, Stacy is he still being a jerk about everything? I understand what you are going through. And poor Cierra, Reuben should explain to her why he is acting the way that he is. Morally he has an obligation to this child and her emotional well being. On the weekends that he takes the other children maybe you could make that a special weekend for Cierra. Let her have special time with her mom doing things she really likes to do. I know it won't make up for Reuben treating her this way but she will know that her mother really loves her.
@dfollin (24290)
• United States
15 Jul 07
Yes,that can be a special time for you two and no it's not the same.But,she does not need to be with a person that does not want her around.That's worse.If he could only understand what he is missing.
@stacy624 (2776)
• Canada
2 Jul 07
Your right and it has given me more time with Cierra one on one!! I just cannot believe he could do such a thing but then again with all the other things he has done should it really surprise me. Maybe its better off this way on a more positive note being at a place where you are not wanted I'm sure is far more hurtful then to be at a home where she is wanted and Loved. I just don't think any child should ever have to go through such a horrible experience ... Thanks so much for your response Stacy
• Philippines
3 Jul 07
I don't know exactly what to say, never had a child. But I think that the real dad has the biggest resposibility on the child than your ex? Its good that he gave his name to the child, and I think that you should be thankful. But the real dad has to support his child. Its the responsibility of the real father. And if I am the child, I want my real father not anyone else. If I am the child, I will be angry and sad that I have not known my real father. Every child wants a real dad not a substitute dad. I don't want a substitute dad. Do you?
@dfollin (24290)
• United States
15 Jul 07
Stacy,That makes it even more that he should take all respondsibility for her.If Reuben did not want the John to know he had a daughter.You don't necessarily have to be grateful for him signing the birth certificate and what not.And if Reuben signed that birth certificate,then that's his obligation for life!You just can't choose to be a dad one day and decide not to the next.There are plenty of men that just wish they had the opportunity to have a girl like Cierra in their lives. And he calls himself a christian. "Rolls eye's".If he hadn't then you could have told John and who knows maybe he would of been a great dad.What you said earlier about the van,I feel that that is not the reason or he would not of been so cruel to her.He would of said something like,oh it's too crowded,what can we do?
@stacy624 (2776)
• Canada
3 Jul 07
I understand what you are saying, However when I was pregnant with Cierra I Had lie to the father saying there was No way possible that he was the dad and that Reuben was. Both Reuben and I had decided that was best at the time (although I see it was really wrong and selfish on my part. When I had Cierra I told Reuben I thought it would be best to contact John (The biological dad) to inform him that I had lie and that he was a dad to a healthy baby girl. Reuben did not like that idea in fact when he found out I called him to tell him this Reuben Lost it! We then for 5 years raised her together until we separated and later divorced. 5 years of taking her making her 10 now he decides he doesn't want the daddy role anymore. I had a step dad who Loved me and still does to this day, My real father had and may still have a heavy drinking problem but you know I wouldn't change the man that raised me for I think he did a great job! I just want Cierra and all the other kids to be healthy and Happy and right now this has just made nothing but a big mess! Thank you for your thoughts I appreciate your response Stacy
@edigital (2709)
• United States
2 Jul 07
In our country such things happen but very limited case. Ex generally do not want to take responsibility of another ex if ex has limited income. But if rich, no matter he gladly raise other dad's child. I think as matter of humanity your ex should accept Cierra as she is human and she has feeling, she has love in mind, she has grievance and joy. If 3 can can be raised more one child can be raised. If it happen to my daughter, I would not pardon the biological dad who is responsible to bring this innocent child in this world. I would take ravange to that ruddy guy whose character is lower than a beast, yes I would tell him beast who left their own child to the shoulder of another guy or woman.
@MGarcia (330)
• United States
8 Jul 07
Oh Wow. I can't imagine how I would have handled that situation. If he refused to take her from the start that would be one thing. It is just wrong to be there for her and then just drop out of her life basically. I'm sorry I have no advice to share. *hugs* to you and your daughter. How did she handle it by the way?
@dfollin (24290)
• United States
15 Jul 07
This has never happened to me.Iam shocked.He took Cierra on as his child.Just because you all divorced,doesn't mean he divorces her too.How devastating to the child when he told her to get out.And how cruel on his part.My first child's father left when he was 6 month's old and has had nothing do do with him.When I had my second son with another man and we split up and he would take my younger son out,most of the time he would take my older one too.When I got married and had a daughter,obviously my husband was marrying a family and I also became a step mother of an adult who had kids and lived far away.But,my husband treated my boys as an equal child,even though my boys were 16 and 13 when she was born.But,we all lived in the same house.And when his daughter came to stay up around here with her mother I babysat for her.Matter of fact,my youngest son was engaged to a girl that already had a daughter that was 3 and she had no connection with her father's side and I told her that she could call me grandma,I gave her birthday and other holiday present's.I would buy her clothes,toys,etc. just like any other grandparent would do for a grandchild.I took heer place's,babysat her,etc. and my son treated her like a daughter too.They are now broke up after having a daughter of their own.We would still treat her as a family member but her mother(my son's ex) will not let us.Does Cierra call him dad?How old is she? Is he the only dad she has know?Does she know her birth father?
@chertsy (3798)
• United States
3 Jul 07
I wouldn't really get into full detail about why he doesn't want to see her anymore with her. I'm guessing the new wife put this in his head. I would let her plan out what she wants to do. Go to the park, swimming, a theme park, zoo, etc. Let it be her day or weekend. Give her extra hugs and kisses.
@wmaharper (2316)
• United States
2 Jul 07
well, honestly there isn't much that you can do. I would talk to your daughter and be honest with her. If she wants, I would encourage her to talk to your ex, and let him know how it makes her feel. If she doesn't want to talk about it, she could always write him a letter. He may be doing this in order to be vindictive to you, and may not realize how much he is hurting your daughter. If it turns out he is still a jerk about the whole thing, than at least she tried. I would take her to her grandfather's or uncles so she gets some extra special time with a good male role model in her life, who loves her. Maybe have a trip to the zoo, or somethng fun shceduled for the days that your ex will have the other children.
@stacy624 (2776)
• Canada
2 Jul 07
I am unclear as to why he choose to do this, The only thing I can think of is that him and new wife just had a baby a few weeks ago. I just cannot believe that he would do this to a 10 year old .....I have been honest with Cierra and letting her know this is NOT her fault in any way shape or form and that they are missing out on a great child. Cierra is bright and very helpful always trying to please others, I just cannot believe anybody could do such a terrible thing. Thank you so much for your response Stacy
@wendy82 (437)
• United States
2 Jul 07
I agree he is being rude to her. That is wrong that he is doing that to her. Maybe he is not a good influence on her and maybe her real dad would want to be a apart of her life. Maybe you can found someone that is going to expect you and your kid. Then tell him that if he isnt going to take her that none of them can go. Make him suffer. It is not right that she cant go even through maybe you should have a long talk to her.
@dfollin (24290)
• United States
15 Jul 07
I agree tell him that he cannot take any of them thou.When the custody goes to court,tell them that he married you knowing the fact's and put the child's surname to be his.Now all of the sudden he is being cruel to her and pushing her away.
@meng7981 (13)
• Philippines
2 Jul 07
Best possible solution I think there is is to explain to Cierra what had happened. I suppose your ex means well when he said that to her and don't mean to hurt her.. I guess he just wanted her to see her biological father. However, if the case is the other way around and your ex is just being a jerk then might as well get your daughter Cierra and sit her down and tell her the situation, that your ex is just going through a phase right now and what is happening has nothing do with her and that she is still well-loved by you and everybody else around her... just comfort her in any way possible to boost up her spirits..
@stacy624 (2776)
• Canada
3 Jul 07
From what I see (I could be wrong) but him and his wife just had a baby a week after he did what he did to Cierra. They drive a van and with our other 3 kids plus her 1 daughter and now there new son there is No room for Cierra the one who has been here , who has known her dad (Reuben) the longest, to be taken out completely just really broke my heart. Thank you so much for your response Stacy
@archie20 (39)
• United States
3 Jul 07
he is got to be ashamed of himself. You cant claim parenthood when u want and leave it when u dont want. its really bad on his part. If your daughter is old enough explain it to her. If she is not then schedule a outing with her at the same time. after 4-5 times she will look forward to your outing and forget having time with your ex. when she is old enough explain why u did it.