Why do women have to wait.

@lilaclady (28207)
Australia
September 30, 2007 7:37pm CST
I am watching a couple on TV being interviewed, the man always said to his partner that when his favourite football team wins the Grand Final then he will marry her, WHAT, well his football team won the Grand Final on the weekend and now she is waiting for him to give the ok...why do women have to wait for the man to make up his mind, why do women put up with that, sit and wait for him to be ready, OMG... women stand up and tell the men in this world that they should be lucky to have a good woman in their lives.... steps off soapbox.....sorry about that but to see such a smug man sitting there next to an almost pleading woman makes me sick... :)
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@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
1 Oct 07
Just like with all other anti-male threads I'm gonna have fun slamming this back in the other direction! Why do men have to wait. And on top of that why do men really have to pay. Women love giving sick ultimatums, deceptions, pretending, plots and threats just to get guys to marry them. And why is it after a woman marries her man, he becomes a means to an end and is no longer a person (wage slaving, breathing wallet she owns now, etc). Plus women say they want to get married for intimacy and companionship. Yea but thats only for a short stint. Usually women lose attraction in their husbands but that doesn't stop them from constantly gazing and daydreaming about other empty prettyboy clowns. I find it completely disgusting. Why should men have to put up with that. Men stand up and don't take this anymore. Just like you Lila I'm sorry for ranting but I wanted to rant. Seeing more and more men get run into the dirt just makes me sick and angry. Now onto the guy. Yes some guys are real smug with things and with an issue like this, why in the world would a woman want to be with that kind of guy? At least with her case she can see what a clown he is. With my cases its like playing a 15 card monte (without a winning card).
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@lilaclady (28207)
• Australia
1 Oct 07
Wow you haven't met the new age woman have you, a lot of women these days have more financially to offer than the man, I paid my first place off when I was 32 years old and if a man takes me out it is on the agreement that I pay the next time, nearly all mt female friends have paid off their own homes and I guess it is safe to say nearly all of us have had the males friends with nothing, thats why a lot of women today are staying single, that woman on the TV if I could have told how pathetic she was being I would have, and by the way I am not anti male, men are ok I like them, as far as women losing attraction to their husbands it is probably because they are being taken for granted or get sick of seeing their mnen ogling at every girl around that displays a couple of inches of boob....I think it is the men that do the daydreaming....
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@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
1 Oct 07
"Wow you haven't met the new age woman have you," I have. Its not a pretty sight. Your perspective and mine differ. You don't go through it at the same perspective I do. I was adding something else to the table. "a lot of women these days have more financially to offer than the man, I paid my first place off when I was 32 years old and if a man takes me out it is on the agreement that I pay the next time, nearly all mt female friends have paid off their own homes and I guess it is safe to say nearly all of us have had the males friends with nothing, thats why a lot of women today are staying single, that woman on the TV if I could have told how pathetic she was being I would have" -[/quote] By "pay" this time I was actually referring to mental and social damages, not just the financial. -_- Most of this I could care less about. What you described is fine, but again, because you assumed I meant pay as in money and not in the intangible sense you responded to me in this way. Partly my fault I admit, but at least now you know. "and by the way I am not anti male," [/quote] And you may not be, but I still wanted to point this out about the argument. Almost always when these kinds of threads come up I get fired up and I feel a need to shed a different light on the subject. "men are ok I like them, as far as women losing attraction to their husbands it is probably because they are being taken for granted or get sick of seeing their mnen ogling at every girl around that displays a couple of inches of boob....I think it is the men that do the daydreaming...." [/quote] Women do it too, don't even try to deny it. Hence why I am compelled to respond to you. They too daydream over the empty headed handsome nothings. I see it all the time, I read about it too. Women also take their husbands for granted and still screw them over like I described in my first post. I bet we'll get nowhere like this Lila, but I have my own perspective and samples of other views on these things, I just wanted to share it. If you don't like it fine, but I'm still going to post my view on matters.
@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
1 Oct 07
Well rereading there is some pay talk in my rant, but I forgot to put in the emotional, mental side of it, and such. Again, my bad, I'm just coming home from a 10 hour day so I'm not all here yet.
@Katlady2 (9904)
• United States
1 Oct 07
I know what you mean hon. It's sickening when guys like that seem to go on a big egotistical power trip and see how long women will wait for them or put up with them. I know some women that are the exact same way. The really sad thing is that the person doing all that waiting thinks that things will change when the waiting is over....and then reality steps in and gives them a good swift kick in the shins.
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@lilaclady (28207)
• Australia
1 Oct 07
Oh it was the smugness of this man, and to look at him I thought you should be so lucky to have this woman, she is nearly 40 and he is sitting there like the master of the universe....grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
@Katlady2 (9904)
• United States
1 Oct 07
Made ya want to reach through the tv screen and slap the daylights out of him, didn't it? I would have felt the same way.
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@lilaclady (28207)
• Australia
1 Oct 07
Have you got a spy camera set up in my loungeroom..hahahahahahah
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@cutepenguin (6431)
• Canada
1 Oct 07
Things like this make me feel sorry for the woman, that she thinks so low of herself that she lets a sport, or for that matter, a man, determine what is going to happen to her.
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• United States
1 Oct 07
no kidding i am tired of women sitting around and waiting on their mne to grow up! love em and leave em!
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@larskie23 (866)
• Philippines
1 Oct 07
this man is lucky to have such a woman, and for the woman. i think shes madly in love to wait such a man.. we can never tell how she feels for the guy to wait with such condition.
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@SHAMRACK (8576)
• India
1 Oct 07
HI, Women characters and personlity changes from person to person may be individual has to think according to her concepts she has. Any how I hope women has to come forward to make it clear without hurting men. The same is with men too.
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@lilaclady (28207)
• Australia
1 Oct 07
Yes respect and equality goes a long way...
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@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
1 Oct 07
I actually agree with this. The only reason I "rant" is because I've been through and I know others who have been through the inequality.
• Singapore
1 Oct 07
I feel there are more girls than boys now so maybe boys have more chances to choose their wife,but girls dont. It's just a kind of feeling, dont know whether it is true or not.
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@Adversa (406)
• Australia
1 Oct 07
Just to pop in a male point of view here. Most men are idiots (myself included :P) In all our testosterone driven ego trips we do a very good job of hiding the fact that deep down most men are scared little boys. There afraid of commitment, and loosing control. What they do is commit to commit. That way they have not lost their control. Men like that are not ready for a serious relationship, let alone marriage. If they can't get their head around the concept that its teamwork, not one vs another then they have no business contemplating marriage. Your friend should re-think the proposal alltogether
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@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
1 Oct 07
Some men aren't idiots. And guess what, there are good reasons not to commit to a relationship.
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@alamode (3071)
• United States
1 Oct 07
Thats true... so the first topic of conversation should be whether a person is looking for a relationship or a one-nighter. That would keep people from assuming there might be more.
@alamode (3071)
• United States
1 Oct 07
Kudos, guy... you're restoring my faith! I have a glorious man, and he has friends who are just as decent and good who can't get a date! They aren't ugly or dirty or poor... they just aren't flashy enough! They would be happy to commit, to build a life with someone. It breaks my heart!
@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
1 Oct 07
I was laughing all the way through this. Why do the women have to wait?... They don't. This woman has to wait because that is what she CHOSE to do. She is the one who allowed this to happen ... and that guy took advantage of her because he knew she would put up with it. Do you know why this couple wound up on TV to be interviewed? It was because this story was wild enough to generate outrage at the man's attitude and at the woman's willingness to tolerate it. This is not the norm is todays relationships, this is the exception to how things are done. You bet the guy was sitting there all smug... he is definitely in control of that relationship and that woman. You can also bet that there are going to be plenty of problems for her in the relationship in the future as well, because if he has so much disrespect for her now, he will have even more disrespect and disregard for her feelings, wants, and needs as time goes on. Don't get mad at just the man, get mad at the clueless woman as well.
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@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
1 Oct 07
Quoted for Truth I posted some of that at the end of my initial "rant" Destiny. Too bad no one responded to it and decided to just zero in on the rest of my counterpoint (which is validated by experience, but no one cares about that either).
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30 Jan 08
The nature has gave to us more patience even for such things. I know some friends of mine that are in the oposite position, so this is their decision to do things this way.If they are ok why should not be us. In general I think that we are in the same equal as men are.
@kishusia (1066)
• India
1 Oct 07
Men and women, both are incomplete. Only when they unite in marriage they become complete. And both are equal. Marriage is the necessity of both. Why should a woman p[lead? If a man gives more importance to a win by his favourite football team to marrying the woman, he claims he loves, then he is not fit for marriage with the woman he loves or any other woman. Women should assert themselves. Stop pleading.
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@williamjisir (22819)
• China
1 Oct 07
In real life there are many cases for both genders to ask their partners to wait until sometime later before they get married, which seems to be normal if they have some special ideas for their wedding.
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@alamode (3071)
• United States
1 Oct 07
I think that would be my last straw... I wish women would realize how many truly good men are out there alone... but they seem to be drawn to the jerks. I don't get it, either... what are they looking for? Think I need to go ask that... its bugged me for years!
@lilaclady (28207)
• Australia
1 Oct 07
Well I know maybe I am bit too independent but I would be telling him that I am quite happy being free...let him cuddle up to a football at night I reckon hahahahahahah.
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@alamode (3071)
• United States
1 Oct 07
You'd only be 'too' independent if you pushed everyone away! Knowing what is good for you and following through is never bad! Yep... a football and a stadium blanket... probably all he really needs!
@rachsal4 (391)
• United States
1 Oct 07
Awww hell no!!! If my husband ever said something like that to me he would be waiting to wake up from the concussion I'd give him!! I feel bad too because I don't just think it's the men, I don't understand why these woman don't think..no demand to be treated better!!
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• United States
1 Oct 07
i totally agree with that!!!!!!!! men think that we are the lucky ones. i am so tired of my husband telling me how lucky i should be to have him! whatever he should be lucky i have put up with the crap i have long enough. sometimes no matter how much you love someone its just time to let go let them find out what they lost move on honey its going to be a great day tomorrow!
@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
2 Oct 07
Okay, please look at the opposite side of this. Women think that men are the lucky ones. I'm so tired of people(women mostly) telling me I'm not good enough or I'm lucky to have her or whatever. Just like you put up with the crap, I too have put up with the crap from some members of the opposite gender. Get real on both counts! I'm excellent! Don't believe me? Go look at my interests. I can bring tons to a relationship, so don't go around talking as if all men are near dirt in level. They are not. Some are very capable and can serve as ultimate outstanding examples, its just too bad no one cares. Just posting this based on some of what you said, just like I did to the original post discussion. I just get riled up anytime I see some things like this. Is the guy in the original story a jerk, for the third time in this discussion, I'll say it, yes he's a jerk! I'd go further, he's a clown (yes the same clown rating I assign to politicians and celebs if you've been following my posting). But still, know that men go through some of the similar things in this type of situation too, just flip the roles over for a bit. I know I tried posing that before, but no one considered it and the original poster didn't get what I was doing.
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@ossie16d (11821)
• Australia
19 Oct 07
Yes, there are some women who are happy to be doormats for the male in their life, and in general I have to say that if they are prepared to put up with such behaviour, then they deserve just what they get. I would have wanted to reach through the screen and throttle this woman, all the while telling her that she deserves better. At the same time, there are some women who treat the man in their life very badly too. They do want it all, that is the man and a relationship but also the freedom to do just what they want. In any committed relationship, then both are equal and should respect each other. Marriage is a serious matter and whether or not a person marries a particular person should not depend on how their favourite sports team fares in some competition.
@LoganzMom (618)
• United States
21 Jan 08
yeah its sad that people get cocky and take advantage of another's feelings. its sad but im realizing no matter how old we get there is still the "chase" factor. the excitement of the chase keeps 'em coming but when you are "all theirs" they take advantage and arent nearly as concerned as they should be. im trying to find the medium between chase and lap dog lol.
@loneleaf (165)
• China
16 Oct 07
sorry to saying that this situation is right reverse in Chinese before marriage, result from Chinese populace unbalance, it is reported that the ratio is about 120:100 in some place and looking for a femail to marry become a dream. maybe our femail friends realize this situation and begin to choose their favorite partner slowly, they are not waiting while male are .
• Philippines
23 Oct 07
Waiting doesn't happen among women only, but yes, women, are the ones who mostly wait. The person who makes his/her partner wait might have so much baggages still, so as to say it, he/she is not yet ready to tie the knot. Being ready emotionally, financially, psychologically and even physically is the question beyond this waiting....otherwise, regrets will take a seat later on the marriage.
• Philippines
21 Oct 07
How lucky is the man whom let you waited ...
@the_ruler (1442)
• Turkey
28 Jan 08
If the subject is not about egoism or something like that sometimes the women ,and sometimes the men might have to wait. There might be some other problems such as military service of the guy or maybe they can wait until the girl graduates etc. etc. But if the point is beyond that kind of needs, then that's not a very healthy situation. I don't watch soaps maybe the things I say might be a little off topic :)