The Devil is at large he is totally after our children...

United States
November 9, 2007 2:21pm CST
There will be a new children's movie out in December called 'The Golden Compass'. The movie has been described as 'atheism for kids' and is based on the first book of a trilogy entitled 'His Dark Materials' that was written by Phillip Pullman. Pullman is a militant atheist and secular humanist who despises C. S. Lewis and the 'Chronicles of Narnia'. His motivation for writing this trilogy was specifically to counteract Lewis' symbolisms of Christ that are portrayed in the Narnia series. Clearly, Pullman's main objective is to bash Christianity and promote atheism. Pullman left little doubt about his intentions when he said in a 2003 interview that 'my books are about killing God.' He has even stated that he wants to 'kill God in the minds of children'. It has been said of Pullman that he is 'the writer the atheists would be praying for, if atheists prayed.' While 'The Golden Compass' movie itself may seem mild and innocent, the books are a much different story. In the trilogy, a young streetwise girl becomes enmeshed in an epic struggle to ultimately defeat the oppressive forces of a senile God. Another character, an ex-nun, describes Christianity as 'a very powerful and convincing mistake.' In the final book, characters representing Adam and Eve eventually kill God, who at times is called YAHWEH. Each book in the trilogy gets progressively worse regarding Pullman's hatred of Jesus Christ. 'The Golden Compass' is set to premier on December 7, during the Christmas season, and will probably be heavily advertised. Promoters hope that unsuspecting parents will take their children to see the movie, that they will enjoy the movie, and that the children will want the books for Christmas. Please consider a boycott of the movie and the books. Also, pass this information along to everyone you know. This will help to educate parents, so that they will know the agenda of the movie. For a first hand info see for yoursell... http://www.randomhouse.com/features/pullman http://www.goldencompassmovie.com
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• United States
10 Nov 07
I, personally, am tired of these warnings that tell "all parents" to not let their children see this movie because "all parents" are not Christian. I happen to be atheist and I am raising my kids the same way so this is a great movie for us. Finally a movie we can enjoy where I don't have to sit down and explain all the religious aspects of it to my kids. It gets tiresome. The fact of the matter is not everyone in this country is Christian so this movie has a valid place in our society. And I doubt there is some great atheist conspiracy to suck unknowing children into it's realms. If anything this movie will make kids think. But, I forgot, Christians don't want their children to think for themselves. They just want them to believe the Bible. Because of all the uproar around this movie and the books I have decided to write more children's books from an atheist point of view because, frankly, there aren't that many out there. My family will be anxiously awaiting the release of this movie on DVD and all of us (my husband, myself and our 4 children--7, 6, 5 and 1 1/2) will be snuggled on the sofa together watching and enjoying it).
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@Ciniful (1589)
• Canada
10 Nov 07
Very well said! I'm also an atheist parent (of 5 kids) raising my children in a freethinking household, and will be anxiously awaiting a movie that doesn't adhere to the christian ideals of what should and shouldn't be. :)
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@Ciniful (1589)
• Canada
13 Nov 07
The christians that boycott movies, like the ones this discussion is based on, ARE that judgemental. There are many religious who practice their faith with common sense, and don't feel every single person needs to live according to their moral construct .... but in terms of this dicussion, those aren't the christians in question. The christians mentioned in the above post is in reference to the ones boycotting a fictional, fantasy movie because 'the devil is at play'.
• United States
13 Nov 07
Thank you Ciniful, that was exactly what I was going to say. From my experiences the judgmental Christians I have come in contact with do not want their children to think for themselves because they are afraid their children might choose not to believe what they believe in. Funny thing is these are the same people that tell me I shouldn't teach my children my atheist beliefs but should let them "choose for themselves". In other words they want me to teach them about god in hopes they won't be an atheist like me but would never consider letting their children have that same freedom to choose for themselves.
@lancingboy (1386)
• United States
10 Nov 07
Personally, I don't see this as anything but a fantasy film for kids. Remember, Harry Potter was boycotted by the Fundy Christians and still sold out because of all the publicity. They also called these films (Harry Potter) evil and full of satanism. It's funny how some people cannot tell the difference between fantasy and reality.
@starr4all (2865)
12 Nov 07
I'm in total agreement. I can't believe people can't tell the difference between fiction and reality.
@Ravenladyj (22937)
• United States
12 Nov 07
LOL yea its pretty sad really that some ppl not only can't tell the difference between reality and fiction but also that they are SO insecure in their own beliefs a FICTION and strictly for entertainment purposes type thing would make them so paranoid and nervous...Why dont ppl like this spend their energy on something more pressing??
@Wingedman (238)
• United States
10 Nov 07
You know I really hate inconsistency and hypocritcal people and people that really don't know what they are talking about. I am not an Atheist but at least if I were I would know that Atheism has absolutely nothing to do with the Devil as you subject contends. Secondly, I don't see that Narnia drivel is any better. They are books, they express a persons point of view. The folks on the Christian band wagon find it just fine to "Spread the Word" and slide their pamphlets into my door or knock on my door and ask me innane questions like "Have you found Jesus?" or "Have you accepted Jesus as your personal Savior?" This is an intrusion into my life. In my mind Evangelism is the enemy. I have the right to pursue whatever, if any, religion I choose. I also have the right to not be pestered or preached at by an "Elder" who is barely out of puberty. Until the Christians of the world realize that their fantastic savior has been the excuse for more wars and deaths on Earth than another other reason. Funny, being a teacher of peace. This is hypocrisy. Until Christians get their story straight and stop trying to tell people to comply with their warped sense of righteousness I'll take a pillar of salt with anything they say. I suggest you do the same.
@theprogamer (10539)
• United States
10 Nov 07
Fair point. Plus this issue has been rehashed on mylot already. I'd rather ban it because I find most movies boring anyways.
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• United States
19 Nov 07
I guess my persepective is a little longer. My view goes back to the inquistion, the crusades, the plagues brought by Christians to the New World with colonization. But you know that really is nothing. Perhaps my argument would have been better stated that Christians have justified their wars and killing with religion more often than others. Also for a religion that teachers tolerance, turn your other cheek, etc. they seem awfully forceful in gettingothers to conform. Practically none of the indigenous religions of the Carribean, South America, The Mediterranean or Europe exist today. I may have miswritten my complaint with Christianity. Maybe it's not just the justification of violence, it is the intolerance of other points of view. Yeah, that's it. Between the two of those points I think the religion as an organization is not a good thing.
• United States
19 Nov 07
I guess my persepective is a little longer. My view goes back to the inquistion, the crusades, the plagues brought by Christians to the New World with colonization. But you know that really is nothing. Perhaps my argument would have been better stated that Christians have justified their wars and killing with religion more often than others. Also for a religion that teachers tolerance, turn your other cheek, etc. they seem awfully forceful in getting others to conform. Practically none of the indigenous religions of the Carribean, South America, The Mediterranean or Europe exist today. I may have miswritten my complaint with Christianity. Maybe it's not just the justification of violence, it is the intolerance of other points of view. Yeah, that's it. Between the two of those points I think the religion as an organization is not a good thing.
@luluwow (165)
• United States
10 Nov 07
Just watched the trailer. It looks like a richly done fantasy film. It is just a film after all. However, the publicity gained from people trying to boycott or bash this film will most likely prove to be the films best promotion... it usually is. As for the books, again, they are books, a story, and the author has the freedom of speech. People can choose to see or read this authors work, a choice as with anything else. I will go see this film.
@theprogamer (10539)
• United States
9 Nov 07
Already talked about and boycotted, especially since it'll probably stink anyways like most movies do.
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@Ciniful (1589)
• Canada
10 Nov 07
You people do this all backwards. While publicising this movie, you're forgetting one basic rule in show business. There IS no such thing as bad publicity. Thank you for getting the word out about the movie and getting more people curious enough to watch it. :) The same thing happened with the Da Vinci Code, by the way.... and Happy Feet. You people have GOT to lighten up. There are so many issues with your post I'm not really sure where to start. 1. Atheism isn't the work of the devil. We don't work for what we don't believe even exists. 2. Seperate fiction from reality. It's a movie, a fictional work, meant to be taken as such. 3. Chronicles of Narnia was a christian based movie, written by a hardcore christian with a christian theme. How many atheists did you see boycotting it?? 4. This just proves the hypocrisy of the average christian. You want your beliefs respected, you cry persecution ... but you jump on the bandwagon to condemn anything that doesn't follow within the guidelines of your belief. Religious tolerance ring a bell? Personally, I've seen the trailer, as have my kids .. and enjoyed the storyline immensely. My children and I will absolutely be seeing this movie.
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@Ciniful (1589)
• Canada
10 Nov 07
I always have to wonder. If your beliefs are so concrete, so founded and so unwavering, then why are you so threatened by anything that doesn't fall entirely within your scope of beliefs? Maybe your beliefs aren't so sound after all.
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@theprogamer (10539)
• United States
10 Nov 07
Very good points all everything. I'd say you've got it locked down, solid and flawless.
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@smacksman (6074)
10 Nov 07
Wooooha!! OK, da Vinci Code I can see the objections - don't agree with them, but I can see how the story line would rub up the Church. But Happy Feet? Come on! What could there possibly be against that film. Please enlighten me.
@Bionicman (3967)
• Czech Republic
9 Nov 07
That's funny. Especially the YAHWEH part.
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@Bionicman (3967)
• Czech Republic
9 Nov 07
I just watched a movie trailer, It doesn't seem harmful:P http://youtube.com/watch?v=vK6MDIEQjMg
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@theprogamer (10539)
• United States
11 Nov 07
I saw a couple of them myself. I missed Narnia, and this movie looks similar. Just like with plenty of movies I may or may not see it. My choice.
@ajgarcia (44)
• Dominican Republic
10 Nov 07
So, basically you are saying that atheism is the work of the devil...? You guys are funny...very funny...
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• Dominican Republic
12 Nov 07
Yeah right, couldn't you come with something better, i mean, atheism is based on the disbelief of god, therefore, the devil... so saying that atheism is the work of the devil is just stupid.
@smacksman (6074)
10 Nov 07
The books are very good and a 'must read' for children, just like the Harry Potter books. They are fantasy and all children recognise fantasy and enjoy it. I read that the film has had to have parts of it removed and changed to placate the Catholic Church lobby which is sad. Films of the book usually come off second best but I will watch the film just for Nicole Kidman who is gorgeous in my book!
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@Margajoe (4720)
• Germany
10 Nov 07
Negative populairity will not help. It will make it more popular, and people will want to see it. The most important thing you can do, is let children know the difference between fantasie and reality. The computer has all ready made alot of damage with those deadly games , killing everything ect. The only thing you can do, is talk to the children, tell them real life is different.And when they have questions, listen befor you talk. When you tell people, donĀ“t do it, they will do it. Even I am human, and I find myself doing things I would normally never do, it is human.LOL Take care,have a nice day.
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@Springlady (3986)
• United States
9 Nov 07
Oh I heard about this movie. I would tell all parents out there to NOT let your children see this movie! This world is getting crazier and crazier and we need the Lord more than ever now! Thanks, rev, for posting this! God bless.
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• United States
12 Nov 07
I heard about this. I got an email from a friend about it. I went to Netflix right away and rated it a 1. That was so that I would remember not to watch it ever! I would hate to rent it by accident and have my kids exposed to such things. I'm glad you put something about it here on MyLot. Thanks.
@Ciniful (1589)
• Canada
13 Nov 07
LMAO ... so instead of checking into it for yourself, you took someone else's opinion as a documented fact, and cut a FICTIONAL movie out of your life, (not to mention rating it negatively on netflix even though you've never seen it) just in case it corrupts your children? Oh you people kill me, lol. (pssst .... easter and christmas are pagan holidays ... boycott them before they turn your children into evil little heretics!!!)
@Ravenladyj (22937)
• United States
12 Nov 07
"Please consider a boycott of the movie and the books. Also, pass this information along to everyone you know. This will help to educate parents, so that they will know the agenda of the movie" ROFLMFAO are you kidding me?! LOL omg its a flipping movie and book series just like Harry Potter, Chron. of Narnia, Lion, Witch and the Wardrobe and so on..ALL FABULOUS btw..... ppl who trip out over things as petty and silly as this just kill me..are you REALLY THAT PARANOID AND INSECURE?! Find something actually important to boycott and put your energy into...