PC or Mac?

United States
November 21, 2007 4:37pm CST
You always here the same excuses both ways to which is better, PC or Mac. Does anyone have any good reasons why they choose one over the other? Just because you grew up with one or the other, or because one seems confusing to you is not a good answer. I ask because I have found that I can't survive without both. There are simply reasons why I need. I love and hate things about both, but I want to see what you think.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
23 Nov 07
Santuccie nailed alot of my points in his posts. I build ALL my desktops. Mac doesn't allow you to build a desktop and install Mac OS on it. I was going to buy a Macintosh notebook to replace my aging presario laptop, but Mac are so overpriced it's ridiculous. My Gateway laptop with 1GB of RAM, 120GB HD, ATI Graphics, and an AMD TurionX2 processor cost $599. A comparable Mac laptop would have cost around $1300, had an Intel Core 2 Duo proc (which is good), but crappy Intel Graphics. Even the cheapest Mac notebooks never drop below $1000 wheras you can get a cheap Windows laptop for under $400. Software and games for a Mac cost more, come out later, and take longer to receive critical updates. Some games never come out for a Mac. I like choices. Mac chooses everything for you and gives you little to no freedom to have things the way you want them. You have limited choices of hardware, software, games, and upgrades/replacement parts. You say you can't survive without both. Why not? What can a Mac do that a PC can't? I have a dusty blue and white Mac that I got for $20 off craigslist. I've played around with it a few times for the sake of learning about Macs. Frankly, I expected more eye candy for all the hype it gets. I think Windows XP has more eye candy and Vista blows it away.
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• United States
23 Nov 07
I am a musician and audio engineer. The software and hardware has always been more advanced for mac. Lately, they are evening out, but my macs have always been more stable. It is very important in good audio work. I also like it for graphics and things like that. It is deceiving to think that Macs are slower because a one gig processor on a Mac would stand up against a PC that is over 2 gig. Also, the newest Macs can expand to a lot of memory, and when you do the work that I do, it is important.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
24 Nov 07
Macs were better for graphics and audio back in the 90s, and maybe in 2000. Right now they use the same hardware. Software is a matter of taste, so if you like your Mac software, there's no point in me trying to tell you something else is better. It's a matter of opinion. I have a 2GHz AMD Athlon X2 3800 in my desktop. You go ahead and try to find a 1GHz processor that has anywhere near the power of that. A 2GHz Core 2 Duo would embarrass a 1GHz Mac G4 or G5 processor as well. Making that claim makes you appear to be a fanboy rather than a person who knows computer hardware. If you were referring to Intel Macs I should remind you that the Intel Macs use the same Core 2 Duo processors that PCs use. The Core 2 Duo doesn't come in 1GHz and I've never seen any benchmarks that show an Intel Mac running faster than a PC with the same proc. If you have proof, please link me to it. You can upgrade memory in a Mac, but not nearly as much as in a PC. The best Mac Pro starts at $2499 and can have as much as 16GB of RAM. I could buy an ABIT Fatl1ty board for $127.99 that holds up to 32GB of RAM. That Mac Pro only comes with 1GB of RAM and costs $4499 for it to include 16GB of RAM. It costs under $2000 to get 32GB of quad channel Geil RAM from newegg.com. I'm not saying Macs aren't good machines. But for your dollar, you get ALOT more out of a PC along with more upgradeability.
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@santuccie (3384)
• United States
24 Nov 07
Ditto with Taskr36. A 1 GHz G4 stands up to a 2 GHz+ Core 2 Duo? Give me a break!
@santuccie (3384)
• United States
22 Nov 07
I prefer PCs over Macs, because you can upgrade the hardware piece by piece. When you buy a Mac, you have a few basic options. But for the most part, you're stuck with it. If you ever want to upgrade, you'll have to buy a whole new unit. That doesn't mean much to most people, however, who usually replace whole units with whole units anyway. The other issue is that there's so much more software for the PC. Indeed, there's more freeware for the PC than there is total for the Mac, including security software. That's one of the worst things about the Mac. While Microsoft has had time to savvy up to what's out there, and in Vista have finally put together an OS that is tougher than most Linux distros, Apple has made the mistake of going backward with Leopard, shutting off the firewall by default. ItW exploits for Mac OS haven't been around long, but they actually do exist now. The most recent one was a Trojan that changes DNS settings. It was discovered the day before Halloween. While cybercriminals with a time budget will focus on the OS that dominates the market, those with a little extra time on their hands will move to the less trafficked nooks and crannies, where users are more cocksure of their security and systems are consequently less protected.
• United States
23 Nov 07
Not to speak too ignorantly, but I have never had problems with viruses on mac. True, eventually it will come, and we should not let our guard down to it. But using security as an excuse not to get a Mac is completely wrong. It should a factor of why you should get a mac. There may be less software out there, but that is because the software that is out there works. Most useful software is now on both platforms also. Not to mention the ability to install Windows on the Mac Intel Machines. Also, there are updates you can do on Mac. Yes, the market is now as swamped, and it may be harder to determine compatibility because Apple does not help you find stuff they sell, but there is a lot of hardware that will actually work. The one good thing about not having so many part options is the it keeps the Apple brand consistent, which is one thing PCs surely do not have. Though, I would like to have more options to upgrade because I am a techie person.
@santuccie (3384)
• United States
23 Nov 07
'Not to speak too ignorantly, but I have never had problems with viruses on mac. True, eventually it will come, and we should not let our guard down to it.' --That's exactly the point. Most Mac users believe they don't have viruses because of some inherent impregnability in the platform itself, when the reality is obscurity. Hackers started writing malware for Linux before they paid any attention to Mac OS. The first Mac OS worm (as in ItW, rather than PoC) was only discovered in February last year. I'm just giving you a heads-up. 'But using security as an excuse not to get a Mac is completely wrong. It should a factor of why you should get a mac. There may be less software out there, but that is because the software that is out there works.' --Not really. Vista is more secure than OS-X. There are a few exploits for Vista, but most of them use the old social engineering tactic. That's saying a lot, considering it's Windows. There are more Mac vulnerabilities than there are Windows vulnerabilities, and have been for awhile. A Mac user's security depends almost entirely on the market, while a Windows or Linux user's security has more to do with the people who write the software. I sleep a lot better knowing this. As far as software out there working or not working, I don't know where you came up with that one. There is more functional freeware for Windows than there is commercial software in all for the Mac, or for Linux. That one came off the top of your head, and it really doesn't mean anything. 'Most useful software is now on both platforms also. Not to mention the ability to install Windows on the Mac Intel Machines.' --This is true, but why would you want to install Windows on a Mac box? So you can pay more for slower hardware? Be informed that the fastest PC is faster than the fastest Mac. And there's a real simple explanation as to why...wait for it...more manufacturers! 'Also, there are updates you can do on Mac. Yes, the market is now as swamped, and it may be harder to determine compatibility because Apple does not help you find stuff they sell, but there is a lot of hardware that will actually work.' --And it's all made by Apple. It's a monopoly, which means higher prices and less peak performance. It's the competition in the PC market that perpetuates technological advancement and keeps prices down. 'The one good thing about not having so many part options is the it keeps the Apple brand consistent, which is one thing PCs surely do not have. Though, I would like to have more options to upgrade because I am a techie person.' --This is a double-edged sword. The same factor that serves for better interoperability also imposes a tremendous limitation. The fastest Mac is not as fast as the fastest PC. Of course all that extra power doesn't exactly go to waste on a resource hog like Vista, but Linux flies! And Windows 7 is supposed to implement the MinWin core.
@santuccie (3384)
• United States
23 Nov 07
I forgot to mention that it's simple enough to try out a piece of hardware, then take it back if it doesn't "play friendly" with your other hardware. ;)
@ersmommy1 (12588)
• United States
21 Nov 07
hI learned how to use a computer on a mac, then had to work on pc. At home I own both. Though my mac is getting a bit dated. I am in agreement with you.