MORE PROOF : Anthropogenic GLOBAL WARMING is real !

United States
February 9, 2008 9:18am CST
Yes, it is true! The coldest winter and the deepest snow in 50 years in parts of China is more proof of anthropogenic global warming in the minds of the man made global warming hysteria crowd. Here's a report from China on how this global warming is making it hot for the Chinese. http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2008-02/09/content_6446987.htm Now, that you have read the article, do you understand how this is actually more proof of man made global warming? There is obviously an increase in the volitility of the earth temperature time series as is often the case before dramatic shifts in trend. In other words, the colder it gets, the more proof we have of man made global warming. Are you buying this BS? Or, do you think man made global warming is a crock of nonsense? What is your opinion?
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@uath13 (8207)
• United States
9 Feb 08
If you look at the earths history you'll find several ice ages & periods of warming planetwide. It's part of the plants natural cycle. This latest temperate period has been the longest to date & is due to eventually end. Mans interference is only speeding up the process. I wouldn't call it man made global warming , I'd call it man accelerated global warming. We couldn't stop it but we could lessen the amount of fuel we add to the fire & thus slow it down & keep our present comfort level a little longer. My region has been experiencing springlike weather in the middle of winter & even had some nasty tornados come through earlier this week. Our winters have become much milder over the past years & the summers much dryer. The evidence is all there.
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• United States
9 Feb 08
The amount of time by which mankind could delay or accelerate global warming would best be measured in minutes, maybe even seconds or nanoseconds. We are that insignificant compared to the influence of the sun overall as the furnance which heats the earth. All man can do is very slightly affect the R value of the insulation (atmosphere) that retains the heat of the earth. Given that insulation (atmosphere) is not homogenous in nature and that weather constantly alters, moves, stirs, and percolates that insulation (atmosphere), any measurement or alteration of that R value is only minimally effective at best. Changes in the sun's output and alterations in the earth's orbit that takes it either nearer or further from the sun are the only things that really affect the temperture of the earth in a meaningful way. Honest scientists have been saying this for probably 100 years. Yes, I now think the scientists advocating man made global warming is real are intellectually dishonest and liars. Tornadoes! I live 8 miles from a town that got hit. I live 15 miles from a town that was destroyed. There is a small amount of debris such as housing insulation, roofing tiles, and office files here and there on my property. Given the nearest destroyed house is 8 miles away I found this surprising. Apparently, tornadoes can blow wreckage a long ways away.
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@uath13 (8207)
• United States
9 Feb 08
I wouldn't call our effect insignificant, but I don't believe it's ANYWHERE close to what the environmental activist would like us to believe. Like in many debates with two oposing sides the truth probably lies somewhere in between. Of course for the activist to get any attention they have to greatly exagerate anything. I say we should take "reasonable" steps to minimize our effect on the climate. If it buys the earth another 5 years the people living during those 5 years would greatly appreciate it. We don't however need to go nuts about it.
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• Philippines
9 Feb 08
The weather really is getting weirder, isn't it? This winter, it was the first time I heard about a snowstorm in California! It was also the first time I heard about tornadoes occurring during winter!
• Germany
9 Feb 08
I am not sure that man can make global warming. Of course, we do a lot of harm for the nature, but we know nothing about cosmic process, we only have theories. And who knows may be they are not correct
• United States
9 Feb 08
You are right that in the final analysis, no one knows.
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@Adoniah (7515)
• United States
11 Feb 08
Good one Red! Did you notice something else a little off about the article? Whoever did the translation was definitely not Chinese. It is the Year of the Rat not the mouse! They do not have a year of the mouse! Dips! I am really over this Global Warming garbage. The weather is really flukey yes. We are going through a definite warming trend, but these things happen. They have so much proof of this happening through core samples in the various parts of the world that all scientists know that it happens periodically. It is what killed the Wooly Mamouths for cying out loud. Instead of whining about it and laying blame, they should be finding ways to survive it and ways to get water the areas that are quickly going arid. The oil companies should be fined until they come clean and admit that they have been ripping us off and start building the alternative energy plants that they know how to build. And, stop putting ethanol into cars that were not made to run on them. The ethanol puts out more CO2 than gasoline does and is harming us more. Idiots! Shalom~Salaam~Peace
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• United States
11 Feb 08
Well, I might be over this global warming garbage now, but I definitely was not earlier in the day. I got sucked into one more thread as someone said people were stupid who did not think there was 'man made' global warming. I utterly failed to get the man to understand there are plenty of intelligent reasons to not buy the man made global warming arguement. I give up. As to everything else you say in this response, it looks about right to me. Thanks, for responding.
• United States
10 Feb 08
seems like their is a shift in the regular climate..maybe this is just the cycle and eventually it will all repeat itself in a hundred and or thousand years? i think michigan where i live have warmer weather since i grew up..but i live in the Monroe, Mi..area..southeastern Mi and it has been very pleasant until just recently..and now we are getting our "winter"..a lot of stuff is new to us and like you said .."man".."made" ..i blame the news media for blowing things out of preportion..sometimes the news is just so much hot air...that is the global warming
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• United States
10 Feb 08
I grew up in southwest Michigan, Kalamzoo. So, I know its cold where you are.
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@Destiny007 (5820)
• United States
9 Feb 08
No I don't buy the BS that man made global warming is real, nor do I think the earth is warming, since it has been cooling since we 1998 after that big el nino then. The important thing is that the lawmakers believe this crap and they are passing laws based on false premises... laws which will have a negative economic impact and cause many power shortages, thus driving up heat and light prices. It has also been found that the so-called green fuels (biofuels) will actually create more carbon to produce then using regular old fossil fuels will... so there is no advantage to using them at all. Finally, if it wasn't such a serious issue for everyone, it would be laughable... CO2 is NOT a pollutant... it is plant food. What fools these greenies be....
@uath13 (8207)
• United States
9 Feb 08
Actually plant food is called fertalizer. If there aren't enough plants due to deforestation then we'll be up to our necks in "fertalizer". Your right though , most of those greenies are fanatics & end up causing more harm than good.
• United States
9 Feb 08
Actually plants take in CO2 and release O2 in a process called photosynthesis... in other words they live one carbon dioxide and release oxygen which is exactly opposite from animals and humans. Just as we breathe oxygen, plants breathe carbon dioxide... so there is no way it can be called a pollutant, or even a greenhouse gas... because it is necessary for our mutual survival... it feeds the plants which in turn feed us.
@uath13 (8207)
• United States
9 Feb 08
The problem lies in the fact that there has to be balance. If we're producing more of it then the plants transform back it builds up. Eventually that build up becomes toxic to us. Ever heard of the expression "too much of a good thing"