if your BF/GF doesn't allow you to go out with friends, would you lie to him/her

Guam
February 23, 2008 10:10pm CST
The other day my friend invited me to her wedding, and I haven't seen her for almost 8 years. Now my boyfriend is very strict, I have a hard time asking permission to go out with friends, which I only do for like 2-3 times every two weeks. Before I could go out with them, my boyfriend gives me this irritating attitude like, "It's your life, go out with them all you want/ Ok, I'll go out with my friend tonight too, I'll go home tomorrow..." He gives me this attitude when I go out with my family too... So this time, I said a little lie that I was gonna go out with my family, so we would skip that whole argument, and I went to the wedding. If you had this same problem, would you lie too? or tell him/her the truth even if you;re going to go through that stupid and tiring fight?
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@ebsharer (5515)
• United States
24 Feb 08
Sounds to me like you are in the begining stages of an abusive relationship. This boyfriend is control happy and you are letting him be that way by "aking permission" you don't have to ask permission to do any thing. You can let him know what you are doing or tell him but for no reason in the world should you say honey can I go to the movies? You really need to look hard into your relationship and see the other things he does I'm sure there is more. Ask a trusted friend to tell you honestly what he or she thinks of the boyfirend. My bet is if your friend is honest he or she will say the boyfriend shoud go. If you have to lie to the person now to be with him what do you think would happen if you got married? Do you think it will get better? Because it won't I promisse. Good luck and really take a look at your self you don't deserve to be treated like a child.
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@ebsharer (5515)
• United States
25 Feb 08
You say he isn't abusive because he doesn't cuss at you or hit you but there is so much more to abuse then that. There is this thing called "mental" abuse. And thats what he is doing to you. He is mentaly abusing you. Distanceing you from your friends and family is his way of abusing you. There is NOTHING right about making you feel guilty about spending time with your friends or especally family. (please see my other comments)
• Guam
25 Feb 08
With or without his permission I still do what I want, just as long as I have the permission of my parents. Its not abusive like, he never cussed at me, hit me or shouted at me. For one thing I'm the nagger. I just hate it when he gives me that attitude whenever I go out.
• United States
24 Feb 08
Personally if your bf/gf won't let you hang out with friends or family without freaking out. That isn't someone you would want a relationship with. That shows that they don't trust you and trust is everything in a relationship. I say either break up with a person who is like this or lie to them. If i was in this predicament i would either find them help or dump them but thats just me.
• Guam
24 Feb 08
hmmmm... I already broke up with him for this reason before. But we just keep getting back together, we love each other, but I guess he doesn't trust my friends. He often tells me he sometimes wants to hide me from the world, and I tell him that isn't healthy, because even if we're committing to each other we still need space.
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• Guam
24 Feb 08
I know... sigh... thanks...
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• United States
24 Feb 08
Well if you are sure that you want to be with him and you do love him then you need to try and make him understand what he is doing. This is a common problem in relationships, one of the people in it believe that their partner should only be focused on them and there is no reason for anybody else in their lives. You can tell he believes this from what he said about shutting you off from everybody else. Try to talk to him about it and really make him understand, if you have to threaten to break up with him. If this doesn't work and you still want to be with him then get professional help.
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• United States
24 Feb 08
first off i think maybe your asking yourself the wrong question. What if you marry this guy? Don't you think he will become even more controlling than. Apparently he has not trust for you if he gives you such a hard time that you actually have to lie to him about where you are going. If it was me I would not put up with these things. You are not a little girl and he is not your father. You are more than capable to make your own decisions and should be able too without getting a hard time
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• Guam
24 Feb 08
to tell you the truth, I think of moments when worse comes to worse, what if this is only the beginning and that when we get to that married stage I'll become a battered wife. I hope not. I am still willing to give him a chance.
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• Guam
25 Feb 08
i hope that doesn't happen. I'm a student nurse, and I have seen battered wives in the ER.
• United States
25 Feb 08
Thats basically the point I am trying to get at. You deserve so much better. Do not get yourself in the position where you are stuck with him. You said your a registered nurse, so you are a smart educated woman, don't let a man run your life. You can do so much better. you deserve only the best and should not be settling for less. Stop letting this man run your life. You have the means to make it without him. I wish you all the luck with what ever you choose.
@jhl930 (3601)
• United States
24 Feb 08
Well my problem starts with what you said at first...ok..first of all he's your boyfriend not your dad(and your not five years old)I don't really understand why you have to ask him to go out with anyone....and second of all no i wouldn't lie to my girlfriend...I would just say I am going to a wedding and you can come along and if she didn't want to I would say well I ll be back tonight...
• Guam
24 Feb 08
that's a nice thing to say... but he's really closed minded... and yes, he acts like my dad. This is how its been since the start, and we've fought about it a million times... I can't bring him out with my friend, I tried it out and he hated it and I hated it because he had to say stupid things like, "Why did you have to bring me along/ Aren't we going home yet?/ Let;s have a separate table from your friends." I don't want to lie, but I'm driven to.
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• Guam
24 Feb 08
I know, I feel so guilty that I lied, but maybe one day he'll realized that he's so uptight and strict...
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@Ravenladyj (22904)
• United States
24 Feb 08
"and how is he supposed to realize that if you keep giving him control over you?" EXACTLY!!! I'm sorry but the day ANY MAN thinks he "OWNS" me or tries to "control" me will be a funny day indeed...I'm a GROWN WOMAN...I make my own decisions and need to "ask permission" from NOBODY!! There is no way in hell I'd stay in a relationship like that! Thats NOT EVEN a relationship...its a prison as far as I'm concerned.....
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@anawar (2404)
• United States
24 Feb 08
Hi. I read every single one of the posts and your replies. Many people on this site are intellegent and caring. I think you got some excellent advice; leaving him. All of your responses justify or defend your boyfriend's controlling behaviour. You mentioned physical abuse. If you think he might hurt you, he will. Of course, everyone has given similiar advice. I was wondering if you have other relationships where you allow people to treat you this way? Perhaps it's time for you to ask why you feel you deserve to be treated this way? Sometimes a childhood trauma; ie: issues with a dad or brother, often cause women to end up in relationships like yours. It's possible you feel guilty about who you are, or perhaps you seek someone to control emotions and feelings you cannot. In the end, it's your decision. I would be terrified to live with this man. Let me encourage you to talk to someone about your feelings. Everyone on mylot is trying to help you and you're resisting. No one can help you if you continue defending him. Please consider everyone's warnings carefully. If you learn more about who you are, you can make sensible and safe decisions regarding all relationships in your life. Good luck and take care.
• Guam
25 Feb 08
I'm sorry, if it seems like I'm defending him, I am really thankful to all the people who are trying to help. As I said, I will think about it. Right now I'm overwhelmed with the comments I'm reading. I've been thinking a lot, for real...
@jaredlp (418)
• United States
24 Feb 08
I starting to wonder how long she has been in this relationship. Like you mentioned her past is important also, all is involved with the overall conditionaling to accept controlling behavior.
@anawar (2404)
• United States
25 Feb 08
Hi. You don't have to apologize for anything. I agree with you; you've had so much input, it's time to rest and digest. Take care and remember you are the most important person in this relationship.
@thea04 (13)
• Philippines
24 Feb 08
i'm always honest with my boyfriend,i always ask permission to him if he will allow me to go with my friends or cousins. i'm doing that so that he will do the same..
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• Guam
24 Feb 08
i guess you;re right. I feel so guilty. But what can I do, I was in a rush, the wedding invitation was sent to me last minute.oh well, I hope I won;t get into this kind of situation where I'll be tempted to lie again.
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• Guam
25 Feb 08
I am hoping that he treated me more as a best friend than a girlfriend.. he keeps having this idea that i'll replace him with a better guy. i told him, if he doesn't change, I might be driven to.
@jaredlp (418)
• United States
24 Feb 08
if he was your bestfriend instead of boyfriend would you be tempted into lying or would you just say how it is and let them deal with the results
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@jaredlp (418)
• United States
24 Feb 08
H0nestly i would be saying bye bye that person. First off i never see the need to ask permission from some one to go out. Im an adult and make my own choices. Remember a relation ship is a partnership, equal partners. One partner shouldnt be makeing all choices for the other, that includes picking fights over going out. I personally was the oppisite i was always saying my ex wife should go out more wasnt right for her to be stuck in the house when i while i was at work. If i found myself in the sitution you are in i would be getting out of it, i believe Ebsharer touched on it, it is the begining signs of an abusive relationship, cut off from family and friends, then demoralise and lower self esteem. I wonder if that has started, little comments about what you wear, eat, or do.
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@ebsharer (5515)
• United States
25 Feb 08
I keep seeing the words "allow" "demand" "permission" and "ask" you my friend need a reality check! Because you are the one in the relationship you don't fully see it. You need to look at your relationship like a friend would. You need to think to your self if this was the boyfriend of my best girlfriend what would I think of him. It sounds to me like you need to see a counsler. This relationship is NOT healthy at all.
• Guam
25 Feb 08
I know... sigh. i still got my head straight.ai adai I am overwhelmed with the comments I'm reading. I don;t think I need counseling, I still in touch with friends. Actually, I do look at my relationship as if I was one of my friends. I still evaluate on things I want. I told him before, if he keeps doing this to me, he will lose me.
@palonghorn (5479)
• United States
24 Feb 08
First off he wouldn't tell me where or with whom I could go out with, we both have times that the other doesn't go. He has retirement parties and meetings and dinners he goes to without me, I don't tell him not too. I have a dinner with my work peers and he is unable to go, he's not going to tell me not to go. As well as I'm going to my daughters and she and I are going to a weekend retreat with an ocean view, he thinks it's great that I'm getting away before I go back to work, I work as a seasonal wildland firefighter for the forestry. So basically we trust each other and we don't ever have that argument. However I wouldn't lie to him, I'd just tell him I'm going, that's where I'll be, and that's who I'll be with, see ya when I get home, and if you aren't here, ok.
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• Guam
25 Feb 08
its not all that bad. he hasn't hurt me or shouted at me, he just gives me that irritating look that puts me in a bad mood. I envy those relationships where BFs get along great with the girl;s friend and vice versa. My closest friends want me to bring him along so he won't get the idea that they don't like him. He says he feels like my friends get really conscious and look uncomfortable when he's around, I told him if he smiled and talked once in a while maybe they'd warm up to him.
@jaredlp (418)
• United States
24 Feb 08
You have a great healthy trusting relationship, I hope she sees the difference between hers and yours and realises that change isnt going to happen in hers overnight or over next year or two really. everything i just read in her responses has me wondering just how bad its gotten.
• Singapore
24 Feb 08
I'm not sure how close is your relationship with your bf but I feel that he is controlling what you do. In the past, I would have done the same thing as you do. But problem is that how long can you lie when similar problem occurs again?
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• Guam
24 Feb 08
of course I can't keep doing this... what to do, what to do... sigh. I know he can be very controlling, well I am his first serious relationship... but even though, sigh, I just wish he'd understand that sometimes I need space and a world of my own. I won't cheat on him, I guess he's just paranoid.
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• Guam
24 Feb 08
thanks for the advice, I will try to talk to him
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• Singapore
24 Feb 08
You need to let him know how you feel about him controlling you. Both parties need to give and take in order to maintain a good relationship.
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@2btrueinu (700)
• Philippines
24 Feb 08
before I answer your question let ask you first what is his reason why he is not allowing you to go out I know he tell you his reason. To tell you frankly there is problem with both of you, in a relationship you must have trust and it's very very important. Or maybe you did something in the past, that he is not allowing for not doing it again. Now if this is not the reason then why? When I got a boyfriend way back then they allow me to go with my friends there is a limit of course you know what's your limit isn't it. I did not do any thing to take away his trust for me. If you hide anything from him soo he will know about it and will be more angry with you. Talk, discuss it with him tell him that you need to go out with them sometimes epecially in special occassion try also to invite him to go with you. You must be open to him yes he is strick as you said but he will understand you if you tell him what you feel about the things he do to you, tell him that you need air to breath that he is holding you to the neck so tight and you cannot breath. I know he will understand try it.
• Guam
24 Feb 08
well I've told him several times, if he'd only be more open minded that sometimes I need and want to spend time with friends, then I wouldn't have t0o hide things from him... but his answer, "You hang out with them almost everyday at school, son;t you guys run out of things to talk about?" Sometimes I think he's jealous with everyone I talk to and spend time with.
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@freakym (16)
• India
24 Feb 08
i dont hv a gf. so no damn peoblem. i go out with my frnds whenever i want to
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• Guam
24 Feb 08
i experienced that when I was single, I miss those days, but right now, I have someone I really care for and I want to work it out as much as possible.
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@shypoet80 (112)
• United States
24 Feb 08
From the bottom of my heart I say this. And I know it might be hard, and I know how love can be when it keeps pulling you back. But....RUN! RUN FAR FAR away. Like a few people have said, it gets worse after marriage. I know, my Dad was like this with my mum and me. He didnt let her go anywhere without him, or his permission. He Would give her grief when she went anywhere without him, even school. Family gatherings were a pain, cause he complained about going. Everything that wasn't what he wanted to do, we never heard the end of. As I got older, I wasn't allowed to go out, I wasn't allowed friends, or to use the phone. I was a 15 yo girl, who wasn't allowed to be a teenager. Men like this, if they don't get help, will only get worse over time. I know it's hard, and you love him. It took my mum 17 years to leave my dad. But you are young, and you need somebody who will respect and trust you. Without trust, you have nothing. I will pray for you
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• Guam
24 Feb 08
the run, run, run, far, far away made me laugh... sigh, he might not be like that... anyways, I hope I'm right... he will change for the better... once everything in his life straightens out...
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@ebsharer (5515)
• United States
27 Feb 08
Abusers don't change they get worse! Mental abuse turns into physcial abuse. The longer you give him permission to abuse you by staying with him the longer he has to get worse. If he truly loved you he wouldn't treat you like this. Men that are like this are not capaiable to love correctly. (with OUT abuse of ANY kind)
• Guam
25 Feb 08
I don''t think he'll kill me... He never lifted a finger on me. If this doesn't change I will leave him. I don't want to be controlled with everything I do.
• United States
24 Feb 08
I didn't read all the replies, so I apologize if this has already been said... Listen, if you have to lie, your relationship is not what it should be. You can say you love each other all you want, but the fact is, if he treats you this way, he does NOT love you. He wants to control you. Love is not about control. You said you can't take him out with you because he complains the whole time. He gives you a hard time when you want to go out without him. I'm sorry, but this is NOT healthy. He has very little respect for you if he puts you in a position to have to chose between living your life and being with him. (Like it or not, those snide comments and the whole attitude is doing exactly that.) I don't know how long you've been with him, or how old you both are. It doesn't really matter. This sounds like he could very easier progress onto worse things. OK, you lied to him. (Sorry, a small lie is still a lie and it violates trust...not that I think he has any for you to begin with.) What happens when he finds out about the lie? What happens, if say, your friend sends you a thank you card and he sees it? Do you tell another lie to cover up the first one? Is this really how you want to live your life? I've been where you are. It started out as a small inconvenience with occasional fights. It ended with me being beaten up, having three broken ribs, a messed up jaw and two eyes swollen shut. He then went on to murder someone is currently sitting in jail...it could have been me. When people who seek control do not get it, they find other ways to do so. It's usually never good. It could turn to physical abuse, or could stay verbal and mental. (If you ask me, mental abuse is worse...bruises heal much faster than a damaged psyche.) He is mentally abusing you, even you don't see it. A mature, healthy relationship is all about compromise and FREEDOM. The two of you should have your own individual things that you do apart, as well as things you do together. There should never be any of what you're having to deal with. There should certainly be NO need to lie, regardless of how small the lie may be. To answer your question, no I wouldn't lie. I'd tell him exactly where I was going and if he didn't like it, he can watch the doorknob don't hit him where the good lord split him on his way out. Or he could give me a GOOD reason why I should consider not going. "Just because" don't cut it.
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• Guam
24 Feb 08
Actually he found out, he was mad at first and it took me the half of the day for him to warm up to me... Well I promised that I won't do it again, I felt really guilty. He is very controlling but I pray that soon he'd change...
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• Guam
25 Feb 08
Well sometimes if he doesn't allow me to go, I don't go, not because he didn't allow me, but I'm not in the mood to go out, or I have promised to go with him somewhere. But as I said, when I want to go out with friends, I tell him and ask permission, and if he doesn't like it, I'd go anyways. its just this time, I ,lied cause I didn't want to go through that whole questioning thing.
• United States
24 Feb 08
So now he may question you whenever you tell him you're going somewhere. Or at the very least, he's going to doubt what you say. You hope he's going to change? While it would be wonderful, it's not likely. What is more likely to change? You. You're acceptable level of his control and your decision making when it comes to going out. When it comes to relationships, the way I see it, if you can't take the person AS THEY ARE, you should move on. You don't deserve to be controlled like this. I pray it doesn't get worse as the years go by...
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• United States
24 Feb 08
First of all if you have to lie, you are in the wrong relationship. Secondly invite him along, and if he does not want to go, then ok I will see you later tonight. Does he invite you out? He is just a boyfriend, where is the contract you signed that makes you his property?
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@ebsharer (5515)
• United States
27 Feb 08
He doesn't think your friends like him because they probably don't. I'm sure they see that he is an abuser. Be careful ... every one here is telling you the same thing. Maybe you should look at it from some one elses point of view.
• Guam
25 Feb 08
yes he invites me out, I get along great with his friends, I don't know why he doesn't with mine. I brought him along with me like 3-5 times, after that he didn't want to go anymore... He once told me he thinks my friends don;t like him for me. I told him to take it as a challenge and prove to them that he deserves me
@nowment (1757)
• United States
24 Feb 08
To me I would not need permission, if the boyfriend is that strict, it shows signs of being to controlling, to the point of abuse. I personally wouldn't have to worry about argument, I would go with my friends, I would still live my own life, if he has a problem with me seeing my friends while we were just dating, and was that controlling then it shows that he would have some serious issues later on. No I wouldn't lie, I would go to see friends and if the boyfriend felt he needed to give permission on this issue I would tell him to go get counselling, since he obviously has issues and he needs to grow up and live in the real world. If he still felt the need to control me that much then for me the relationship just wouldn't work, I would be gone.
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@joyce959 (1559)
• Philippines
24 Feb 08
I think having a relationship with someone who over-control you and doesn't trust you going out with friends is an unhealthy relationship. I guess you have to think it over seriously if you really want to forego your relationship with your over-controlling bf. You don't have to lie. Just tell him casually that you are attending a friend's wedding and ask if he wants to come along. If he doesn't want to go with you, then fine. He is just your boyfriend, not your father or husband.
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• Guam
24 Feb 08
That's our only problem, we get along great but when its about me going out period! he makes a big fuss out of it... I do try to get him to come with me, but whenever he comes, something wrong happens and whenever he doesn't come he acts like a kid as if I'm his mom who left him at home. I feel that its very unhealthy for him to be this way, and for me to hide things from him. I am trying to make him understand.
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@manya_pearl (1901)
• Singapore
25 Feb 08
Hmmm... its so difficult for me also to have that kind of bf. It seems he turned to be possessive to you. For me, its better to solve with him, say to your bf, be relax... anyway, you're human and you need to socialize with other person not only your bf. :))
• Guam
25 Feb 08
yes, I do talk to him, there are times he's ok with it, but most of the time he doesn't want to hear it. he did admit to me that he feels he;s obsessed of me.
• United States
24 Feb 08
You shouldn't need your bf's "permission" to do anything, especially see friends. If he had a dinner or something planed I could see him being upset, but that's it. He's a control freak and will not change.
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@ppooja03 (67)
• India
25 Feb 08
my boyfrnd is very possessive so sometimes i lie to him !! sometimes i go 4 a date with other boys too !! jus 4 change !!
• Guam
25 Feb 08
i did that too, sometime in my life. Its nice to know a range of guys. But then, its nothing like cheating, mostly just to get to know others, right. In the end, its still him you want.
@jaredlp (418)
• United States
25 Feb 08
this made me think of something we talked about back in psy 101, the lack of dateing by todays generation. we are so quick to just go out with one persn, form a relationship with one person, get serious with that one person. Often times this is at the lose of going out and "playing the field" now in the class i was in we wasnt meaning sleep around when we said play the field we ment go out on dates. go out on first dates, go out on second dates. Enjoy meeting new people. Today we meet someone, and half the times we start a relationship with them before we even know them. We hurry for attachment without knowing what we attached too. so what the discussion ended on what that we need to slow down, and not be so exculusive in our dateing, meet people get to know them, move beyond the puppy love stage and see true person that they are
@belle538 (33)
• United States
24 Feb 08
I think the real question is, how come you have to ask permission from your boyfriend? You should be able to make your own decisions and he shouldn't be able to rule you like that, it's unhealthy. I wouldn't let any person, especially man, control me, especially when it comes to family and friends. I could understand his jealousy if it was other men, but it seems very innocent and he seems jealous.