What if Satan is actually God, and God is actually Satan?

satan lucifer and all his other names refer to one being the "devil" and well "God" is used for a good positive being in all religions

Ultimately, it's semantics. Whatever you worship as a positive is positive no matter what you call it. People aren't going to change what they want in a religion because of what someone else believes about their definitions. The followers of God that are doing the evil you speak of, are wanting a God that lets them do that. This God of theirs is as good as the people who created it. (Oooo, that's controversial, right there!)

There is that possibility. I would wonder what this would do for religious teachings and "morality". I realize morality isn't from religion only, but the question still stands. If God teaches love, kindess, compassion, hardwork (just throwing out things here)... and if God is actually Satan... wouldn't the teachings actually be things humans should avoid? Shouldn't people be doing the exact opposite of what is said in holy scripture? Instead of loving your family, your neighbors, instead of practicing "good", people would practice "evil". Could you all imagine a situation like this? Even if this inverted view of religion was moderated... there may still be those who would follow it, and others who would simply do the exact opposite out of fear of "Satan" and the Inferno. Also note that religion has been used in the past to control the masses and has been subject to human revisions (which can still be questioned in terms of validity). It could be reasoned that the deities are reversed but in order to keep society stable, the commandments, laws, codes are still as they were. But again... the truth still isn't known and still left to questioning by the people. Instead of love, there is hatred. Instead of peace, there is war. Instead of cherishing others, there is only focus on the self. Hmm... sounds rather familiar... Perhaps humanity has followed the wrong path for thousands of years either by choice or involunarily. And again with humanity, there is the perversion of religion for selfish means or to accomplish some other end (but I've seen some relate this to false God or zealotry). It can also be possible that both deities exist but neither is evil. The only evil that can be proven is the evil deeds of humanity across time. Thanks for the thought exercise Liber.

Well as they say in the bible that satan or lucifer is the greatest lier and deceiver that there is ,so i imagine that if it were true that we were tricked into serving the wrong God , then the right God would forgive us anyway.. ..

I wouldnt even second guess if god isnt god. I'm prety strong in my faith. And through my life I know that god is god and satan is most defiantly satan. I cant really explain why i feel this way. Just by faith.

what if you an idoit? lol nah im kidding but seriously tho its no backwards lol satan lucifer, etc... and all his other names refer to one being the "devil" and well "God" is used for a good positive being in all religions

Very good question and one that deserves lateral thinking. Humans are definitely subject to a darkside, and as I commented to theprogamers post, without the dark side we could not know the light. Effectively that makes Satan an employee of the Head honcho, Almighty Divine Spiritual One - God if you will. Or he is the dark side of the light - that which is one being which is God. Satan gets allot of bad press, there's no doubt and the human lesson is not to get caught in the games of Arhiman. Ahriman is by the way known as the Prince of Darkness. Religious preachers, priests etc., talk about the Underworlds, the Dragon, the Serpent as that which is a 'no go zone.' Yet it is by going to the depths of ourselves that we will reach the heights of ourselves. The test is not to get caught in the darkside. Doesn't mean we don't go there. In fact I'd debate we as a human species already have a large part of our foot in the underworlds and are in denial. We are puppets and Arhiman is the puppeteer and most people have no consciousness of it. I believe we are both God and Arhiman in one, we have choice and our lesson is to find the God inside us, while navigating our way among all that is a temptation of our senses and the decisions of our silly minds. Owning your darkside and putting light into it is what is required to reunite with ourselves. You cannot have dark if you turn a light on.

I do believe God exists. the universe may start from one single element but this element won't just pop out of nowhere if nobody creates it. The thing is not all of God's creations end up serving the very purpose they are created. Just like we create machines to produce good parts and somewhere down the line some of these parts are defects. Some of these parts may be repairable, some have to be dumped in garbage. When it comes to right or wrong, I believe we were born with this knowledge. What happens is different upbringing, life experiences etc have shaped our thought and consciousness to a certain degree different from others. This is how difference of opinions and perceptions arise. For example we know killing is wrong, but some agree that it is necessary to defend themselves while others will never take other person's life and the rest actually makes a living out of it. If what you think or believe is wrong, something will happen that will make you change it. Some people find out by keeping an open mind and try to put themselves in someone else's shoes, others listen to their heart - whichever way you choose, you will eventually know the answer of this very question you asked.

i think a mind with a lot of influence of satan could think a thing like that i believe both in god and satan so i can differentiate in thinkings.

You don't believe in a God or a Satan? Then how could "we" get it wrong? I think you are very confused about these matters.

I don't know where do you get those ideas, guys,,, But just to discuss your idea,,, supposing that we are worshiping the wrong God which means that there are other Gods!!! Where are they??? Why never sent us prophets??? Why don't they try to get back there throne??? Why don't they try to get us back to the right path???? Simply because we are on the right path,,, One God and always existed and Satan is just a creature of different nature that has the evil as its path,,,

There are people who worship Satan so to them Satan is their god.

cant you see they are both God.satan is god of all evil and God the father is the great creator.they were even in the same side before until satan or lucifer started to get greedy on power.which i think started the idea for God to create man to prove to lucifer that he is far more superior than him.cant you see the real truth that man is just an experiment of more superior beings from other planet.the alin being is God.

LOL you are so close to knowing the truth that it hurts! Even Christians (which I am one) don't even know the full truth of this one. Okay I will tell you this, I know it will not make a difference to you one way or another, at least not right now, But... The one thing Christians don't get or even know about is the the name most often used for God is Elohim, a masculen plural. Although when this name is ued for the god of isriel it is used with a singular verb. Like the english word fish. It can be plural or singuler depending on how you use it. The bible talks of other Elohim and the Sons of Elohim, And then the SON of Elohim, But beside the unique Son of God there is another that is spicificly mentioned a few places, His name is Helel,or Helel ben-Shakar and means "the Shinnig One", or son of the dawn. He fell befor the creation of man, and refused to bow befor man. Now I'll let you in on a secret. Every body knows the verse about the garden and the serpent right? okay, let me ask you one thing, Why didn't Eve jump out of her skin when the 'serpent' spoke to her? Remeber the name I mentioned befor? Okay Helel was a 'nachash' this hebrew word again can be translated as a noun, serpent, But.... in Isaiah and Ezeckiel retales the same story without a serpent. The word can have three other meanings in hebrew. and in perticular can be a substantive particle rather than a noun, and thus can be translated as "the shinning one", So satan (wich is not a noun in the old tesament, meaning the advasary) Is a God, or more persise a son of God, and after the flood when many of the sons of God did things that were forbideb for them to do, the nations were devided at Bable into 70 nations and were also divided among the "sons of God" to rule over for the disobidience of man, except for Isriel, which was for ha-Elohim (the God) So your point of veiw is very near correct depending on the God that you willingly or unwillingly serve. ROFL!!!

In that case, I would be YOU and YOU will become ME!!

i am not a religious person though i was baptised a catholic.i dont go to church and i dont pray too often.but i sincerely believe in GOD the father in heaven and i never, not for a second doubted His identity.and i know why, its because of my faith in Him.for me,its better to believe that somebody's got your back than to feel alone and helpless. besides,what if Satan is tricking your mind right now to think of this question that you have asked? sometimes, when nobody is guiding us,we think and do things without knowing if its right or wrong. So sins like stealing,killing,lying,cheating and others are natural for you?do these things will really give you freedom?

Dear friend, I do hope the Satan could do something good may be God make one thing better. Any how this world is full of limitations. Hence I feel God limitation is expressed through Satan inference. If we too have that Godly attitude I hope that Satan would never be able to interference in God's roles as long as we are along united with God. Unless one beleives in God the experience these experienes can be felt. As long as Satan prevails we all are fallen in provocations.

Maybe Satan works for God as the Hell's Judge for Heaven Department of Justice?

I don't believe in Satan. Satan was MADE UP by the Cristians to try to convert witches/witta (simple country folks) into thier church. They took the wihtches "stag god" of the forrest..turned his buck rack inot horns and made him look like a man. There is no Satan.-Just greedy Christians that STOLE our holidays and turned them into their own. For instance..Jesus was born in MARCH, not in december. So they stole out Yule and called it Christmas. Just like they STOLE our Samhain and turned it into All Saint's Day the next day! Christians are thieves!And they will do anyhting to keep their lands and buildings! There US a God/Goddess..and SHE would be horrified at what people have done to each other here on Earth? but ..NO SATAN. Be at ease. There is no sin. Only learning experiences to learn from. We are born..we grow and learn..then we pass to a better place and learn even more! It is all good!

I'm an Atheists so either way it's the same for me.