Still NO SUNSPOTS!
@redyellowblackdog (10629)
United States
June 10, 2008 7:41am CST
Here's a good article about a recent conference of scientists who study the sun. A topic of discussion was the current lack of sunspots. Not covered in the article is that a sun without sunspots is a cooler sun. Forget about your man made global warming! Unless the sunspots return, it can't happen.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080609124551.htm
What do you think of this conference and these scientists' opinions and concerns?
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@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
10 Jun 08
I think it is a lot more realistic approach to understanding our climate and what actually determines what our climate is going to be like.
It makes a good point about solar inactivity and global cooling, and is a much more likely reason for climate change than man's puny contributions.
This is what we should be concentrating on instead of trying to destroy the worlds economy with unproven theories.
A common sense approach on environmental issues with the understanding that the environment and the climate are two distinctly separate concerns would be the correct approach.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
10 Jun 08
The environment and climate are not completely distinctly separate. Almost, but not completely. Nuclear explosions in the atmosphere do slightly cool the planet! I noticed when going over the Hadley data that near the end of WWII the planet cooled slightly for a short time! Of course, one instance of this is not proof, but it is quite a coincidence.
"LIGHT BULB GOING OFF OVER HEAD!"
If the planet starts to heat up, lets dig a larger wider 'Panama canal' and use nuclear bombs instead of bulldozers! We can solve 2 problems at the same time!
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@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
10 Jun 08
Short of declaring thermonuclear war with our favorite enemies, my point was that responsible environmental stewardship should not include destroying our economic and industrial base on the basis of unproven theories that man man made CO2 is altering our climate.
I believe it is possible to keep our environment clean without falling for the lie that we are responsible for climactic shifts.
I see environmental concerns so be one issue while climate change is another issue entirely.
We can change the environment in that we can control the amount of pollution.
However, pollution alone does not make major changes in the climate, and unless something approaching the magnitude of a nuclear explosion is introduced, it would have no real overall effect in our climate.
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@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
10 Jun 08
Ah... now I see what you are saying. Thanks, for the clarification.
As to the nuclear weapons altering temperature, it is a very short term effect and is only detectable with precision instruments. Even an all out nuclear war would have much less effect than most people think, though you would notice it.
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@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
10 Jun 08
Redyellowblackdog you are no longer number, have you lost you edge and become politically correct. Now to your discussion, I do wonder when we are going to start seeing the effects from the lack of sun spots? It takes time for new light to make it to the Earth, of course I am not a mathematician so I do not know the answer to this one. I also wonder when we can stop hearing about global warming. Of course all we will hear is how the great enviromentials stop the earth form warming. Remember when Obama told his supporter that because of his victory the oceans would stop rising and the Earth would heal itself. If Obama became President before the Earht started to cool itself Obama can claim victory, and it was his "godlike" powers that stop the Earth from turning into a gaint ball of fire.
@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
10 Jun 08
I don't think I've lost my edge. What I think is that whoever had it in for me has left myLot or mellowed out. Which is it? I don't want to know.
As to when does the earth start to cool off? It has already started, I'm not kidding. These things aren't not dramatic, but yes, global temperatures are already slightly declining. I've already done a thread on that subject. Normal solar activity would be expected to reverse the cooling trend, if it happens.
I gotta agree with you that Obama would try to take credit for beneficial climate change.
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