Evolving From Ape to Man - Have We Been Lied To?
By etnad0
@etnad0 (230)
United States
July 1, 2008 8:59am CST
The other day while watching the Science Channel, I really started doing some thinking about double standards when it comes to different opinions on how man came to be.
If two people are sitting together and both observe the same thing. One can conclude that people came from Apes and the other can conclude that a Higher Power is responsible.
One is considered science and the other is not. Scientists want believers in a Higher Power to offer some sort of evidence as proof, to which believers offer life itself as proof.
Scientists also offer life as proof of their theory of how we came to be. What's the difference?
Something else I've noticed while watching a lot of different programs on Science Channel, Discovery, and History is that scientists do A LOT of guessing without any actual proof, but its still considered science. I thought it took faith to believe in something that isn't "proven" yet? Maybe I'm wrong.
I've studied evolution for a while and personally, the more in depth I get into macro evolution, the more rediculous and contridictory it sounds. Most of the fossils have been fakes, which is a blow to credibility.
Sure, they've done experiments and created environments IN A LAB MADE BY MAN, which doesn't prove what would happen if just left alone to chance.
If things are constantly evolving, why do we only have just APES and MAN? We should actually have a lot of intermediary stages walking around today. According to scientists, evolution never stops, so why do we still have apes and man, but nothing in between?
Stephen Hawking has said on more than one occasion that all of his work points to a creator, but he refuses to accept that there is a creator. Why exactly is that?
4 responses
@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
3 Jul 08
Scientists don't offer life as proof. They have demonstrated the processes of evolution on a genetic, microscopic, and macroscopic level. Transitional fossils have been dug up, new species have been found (and created), and our understanding of evolution has allowed us to create medicines and antibiotics to fight off pathogens. Intelligent Design advocates offer none of this.
I don't know where you get your information, but most of the transitional fossils we find are quite real. Laboratory experiments are set up to mimic the environment in which phenomena takes place, though not all experiments take place in a lab. Most lab environments are quite accurate.
"We should actually have a lot of intermediary stages walking around today."
An intermediary stage is the stage between an earlier stage and a later stage. What your asking is illogical. However, we do have parent species that co-exist in the world with a species that branched from them.
@etnad0 (230)
• United States
3 Jul 08
very interesting. you say they have demonstrated it, can you please provide a link that did not involve a higher power? that means, no man involved, because if man is creating the conditions, that means a higher power is interfering to get desired results.
name transitional fossils that have been dug up in full and not found to be fakes... that will be an interesting read... please provide a link to that also... please don't post any THEORIES or HYPOTHESIS, i want to see links to actual bones, not plaster made to fill in empty spaces... which is what they use 90% of the time because they only find skull caps, teeth, a finger, or a toe and make up the rest as they go along...
wow that last part about no intermediaries takes a lot of FAITH for me to BELIEVE it because i have to IMAGINE that what you are saying is true without being able to see it for myself... lol... yet science scoffs at religion?
@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
3 Jul 08
very interesting. you say they have demonstrated it, can you please provide a link that did not involve a higher power? that means, no man involved, because if man is creating the conditions, that means a higher power is interfering to get desired results.name transitional fossils that have been dug up in full and not found to be fakes... that will be an interesting read... please provide a link to that also... please don't post any THEORIES or HYPOTHESIS, i want to see links to actual bones, not plaster made to fill in empty spaces... which is what they use 90% of the time because they only find skull caps, teeth, a finger, or a toe and make up the rest as they go along...wow that last part about no intermediaries takes a lot of FAITH for me to BELIEVE it because i have to IMAGINE that what you are saying is true without being able to see it for myself... lol... yet science scoffs at religion?
@LilyPad123 (377)
• Singapore
1 Jul 08
Than what made god?? I am not contradicting i just want to know thats all. Are there only one god? Than why are there so many religions?. Than how is it that people can come up with new religions as we speak. I am not against ideas, i myself am a pious person. But sometimes there are some questions we cannot answer. Science and technology is not a bad thing. It depends on the people who use it.
@LilyPad123 (377)
• Singapore
1 Jul 08
You got a point there. Yes stephen hawkin has said that his works points to a creator. But why does the creator need to be god ?. Whats your definition of higher power?. Yes scientist have thoughts and theories about evolution. But consider this first , the timeline. How long did it take for humans to evolve. Evolution occurs when there is a need for adaption. Consider human beings, there are people who are so much more resistant to cold weather than many are. Isnt this apart of evolution? If no than what your definition of evolution?. People can choose what they want to believe, wheather there is god , or higher power or something else. But what i do not understand everytime someone comes up with a theory there is always a contradiction to it. The fact is many of us choose to believe what we want to, many more of us let people make the decision for us. At the end of the day there are possibilities to such theories. Yes scientist do guess alot, you cannot blame them they are human. A simple idea can change world?. Most of the inventios that we are using or taking for granted today are part of guesses made people. We will never know maybe anytime soon who or what created us. Maybe in the future we might be able to discover. Mankind is still finding ways into space. Who knows what we might find.
@etnad0 (230)
• United States
1 Jul 08
I don't think that the Creator's name is "God" but that is a word we use to describe the all powerful being that we believe in. Any Higher Power would be "God" until we learn the true name of the Higher Power.
I was speaking of macro evolution. One species changing into something different. That simply has not been observed or proven by a reliable fossil record.
As far as our travels into space are concerned, we still only assume that our answers are in space.
