Life for Bush after the Presidency?
By sumpter
@sumpter (214)
United States
August 29, 2008 5:48pm CST
For the last eight years, George W. Bush has had his way with this country. From squandering our economy, to decimating our military. How can a man live with himself after such destruction? The Bush Years will be known as a time of decline in American innovation, and an increase in widespread hardship. Those who have elected him must be kicking themseleves now. What do you think?
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4 responses
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
30 Aug 08
Frankly, I don't think Bush sees himself as the terrible person that you think he is. I think he honestly felt that Sadaam needed to be removed and that in the end the Iraqi people will be better off. I'm sure you're not aware of this, but we did find 500 tons of yellowcake uranium in Iraq that certainly made him feel he was right to invade Iraq looking for WMDs.
I think Bush will largely see himself as a man who did what had to be done. Truman waged an unpopular war in Korea during his term and he had issues as well. Despite that, very few people look back on him as a terrible or even a bad president. Bush will be remembered for the war, but only time will tell since many people now feel that Truman did the right thing and South Korea is a powerful country with excellent automotive and computer technology. If Iraq can improve and excel the way South Korea did after the war, he might be looked at in a decent way 50 years from now.
We haven't had any decline in American innovation so I don't know what you mean. We have made many innovations in technology over the last 8 years. How many people do you think had internet access better than Dial-up 8 years ago? This is what I was saying about citations. There is no evidence that we have been lacking innovation. Quite the contrary.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
31 Aug 08
"How many cars are built here versus overseas? How many factories and plants have closed in search of cheap labor?"
The trend of building cars elsewhere began with Clinton and NAFTA. The same goes for many factories and plants. those business have largely gone to countries that pay lower wages for the same work. The only way for this country to prevent that is to pay our workers less or give big businesses more tax cuts which most people are against.
@sumpter (214)
• United States
31 Aug 08
There is alot of literature out there that questions American Innovation. Every year, jobs have been lost and sent overseas to cut costs. That has an affect on American Innovation. How many cars are built here versus overseas? How many factories and plants have closed in search of cheap labor?
Please take a look at this for some insight...www.futureofinnovation.org/pdf/benchmarks.pdf
I mean it calls into question and lot and points out that a lot is not made in American anymore, but in China. Internet access is not the only marker of innovation. While important, if people cannot pay their bills because or fill their tanks because of oil dependence, internet access does not matter one bit.
@sumpter (214)
• United States
31 Aug 08
Also, Bush might not fell terrible about himself because he may just be out of touch with those he was supposed to serve. There is no way a human being can go through 8 years and completely turn a surplus into a deficit that we cannot get ourselves out. What president creates a mess and then tries to leave it for the next president? Whoever is elected, will certainly need 2 terms just to correct and repair a pre-GW Bush America. I am sorry, there is no defending this man when it comes to the direction of our country. I respectfully disagree. You can as honest as you want about something, but it does not give you the right to squander the resources of this country like a pez despenser.
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
29 Aug 08
I followed the link but was led to an article talking about Obama's nomination, whats that got to do with your post?
First off, welcome to mylot and the political forums, now for a survival tip, because others will eat this kind of thing alive. If you want to survive the political forums, don't come in and make general statements just bashing someone, bring fact snd numbers, stats, links to relevet articles and anything else supporting your point. this kind of thing will just get chewed up and spit out and you'tt find yourself getting tossed around yourself, this is a bloodsport ring.
welcome aboard.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
30 Aug 08
"I think it is clear what Bush has done and no numbers or stats are needed."
Numbers, stats, and/or citations are typically needed because many people will just make things up or make claims of lies they've heard in emails. If it's "clear" then it should be easy for you to bring citations to back claims.
Obviously your post is rather generic and there really are no sources that could support your non-specific claims so you wouldn't really need them here. It's largely just Bush-bashing which is now a popular pastime.
@sumpter (214)
• United States
31 Aug 08
American Unemployment - 4.8%
Operation Iraqi Freedom Lives Lost - 4,135 (updated aug 30)
Operation Enduring Freedom - 574 (updated aug 30)http://projects.washingtonpost.com/fallen/
2.8 million manufacturing jobs lost under the bush administration (AFL-CIO)
Foreclosure are out of control.
What other numbers do you need, because I can provide. I do not just come out of the blue with this. This is my life and I live it. I lost close families members in both operation Iraqi freedom and Enduring Freedom. I thought this was public knowledge. This isn't mindless Bush bashing, this is merely stating the facts this country has turned to the worst since he took office. If Iam living in a fantasy world please tell me.
@laglen (19759)
• United States
30 Aug 08
I voted for him (twice) and am not kicking myself. Keep in mind that it was a Democratic Congress. But in answer to your question, he could ask Jimmy Carter what he should do! Maybe philanthropy. Jimmy Carter has been a wonderful asset to Habitat for Humanity and has really made a difference there!
@sumpter (214)
• United States
30 Aug 08
That maybe so, but Carter has not done the samething that Bush has. Carter did not leave the country in the state or condition that we are in today. My point being, I think Bush will have a tough time coming back to society as a private citizen, much unlike any other president that we have had. Out of curiosity you really do not regret voting for him twice? What made you vote for him the second time?
@fordham08 (131)
• Philippines
30 Aug 08
History will judge the man. He will have to live with his conscience.
By the time his White House years is over, I'm sure he will have a lot to answer to. A lot to make amends and a whole life of what-if's.
