Should I stay?

United States
September 18, 2008 2:46am CST
I am Married to a guy who repeatedly declares and in some ways shows he loves me practically every day,but has Wilson's disease which affects/impairs judgement. This means He has lied about things he's done/not done,He has no ambition to get a better job to help us financially, and though He usually doesn't mean to do this and frequently apologizes for them, often does stuff that frustrates his employer and myself on the job, and at home that cause problems, and more work for me. He also forgets a lot of things which cause problems financially and personally. He also will not even eat right(He hates all green vegetables and both him and his younger brother will retch at the mere smell of a banana. He dislikes fruit as well!)This causes him to not have much energy and the need to sleep a lot. He started out by lying to me about the things that were important to him. He continues to make excuses for what he does wrong, and will not change his mind about doing the things to improve our situation or life. My friend(Employer's wife) has said he has told tales about me(tales were untrue) all over that she has heard from others, so I know that he has told them to his family, both local and afar(He has relatives in other states around the country) so they believe these tales and do not know any better, since I do not tell tales about him to everyone around town, and especially not to his relatives(Experts in Marriage tell people not to do this sort of thing to keep a marriage strong). There has been physical confrontations where he has hit and I hit back and many times the police have been called(I am sure they are totally sick of it by now) We have gone to counselling(the young lady just didn't quite understand how to help us) I have pretty much given up and do not feel that I love him,even when we can get along and are communicative with each other. It looks like we are happily married to outsiders, and it lasts for a while but then he will do somethings that causes problems and it starts all over again. I do not want harm to come to him, I only want to get away and move on with my life, Yet when we do get along, it makes me wish that the things I needed him to have or to be important to him would be true. I have 2 medical conditions that will eventually end my life and need to straighten and improve things with them as well as getting things straightened up financially both for my health and living situation and for my furbabies health and living as well. There are soooooo many details of my life that I cannot share here... but: What would you do in my situation? plrpetfrnd
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4 responses
• United States
18 Sep 08
My question for you is: Does he do these things because of his condition?
• United States
19 Sep 08
Hello Danielle: My husband has Wilson's Disease which is a genetic based disease that runs in families. My husband got it from both his dad and his mom.Physically it is his body's inability to effectively process the copper mineral through the body and gain the benefits from it, In his body it is like eating riesin! It poisons his system and builds up affecting everything from his brain function(in this case his brain stem was already affected irrevocably prior to diagnosis) to his basic nerve function and his equilibrium. He can lose his balance easily and fall all by himself for example. There is fuzziness of thought(disjointed thought and speech and forgetfulness while in thought or speech-at least that is what I have seen- I am not sure if it could also be intermittent deception on his part to not respond in conversation or discussion) I do know that some of this IS from his disease in some of the judgements and actions. I feel that the remainder of this comes from both his upbringing and how his first wife(yes, He was married before, I have not been) was not a partner to him and didn't reign in his urges to behave badly, I think she either let him get away with too much or perhaps was powerless to stop his bullheadedness including the influence of his Mom(I am thinking that due to what his mother possibly had been told-probably lies as well, she reacted to the information she thought she knew.I am not disrespecting my mother in law, I am thinking that based upon the false information She got, she reacted protectively like any mother would-heck like I would!) Others have told me that he Adores sympathy and attention and loves to gain the compassionate feelings of others. I also think that his disease has outgrown the current amount or type of medication he has been taking for years(I do know that a body will build up resistance to medication over time-Even insects do that! so I wonder and observe the effectiveness of the medication on his behavior and action. There is a new medicine out for those recently diagnosed with Wilson's, it causes me to consider how it might work for those who have outgrown their old medicines' efficiency. I also wonder what medicines are in the labs now that might be discovered to work on Wilson's as well. I hope that gives you a better idea of what I am dealing with here.
• United States
19 Sep 08
I am also married to a man that has been married before, as well I have not been. It seems in that respect we pay for the ex's mistakes and it's not fair it's just how it is. I grew up in a household with my sister and mom both disabled, my sister is now passed away, g-d rest her soul. I would say most of what he does is due to the disease, however this isn't a excuse so if I were you I would see if some of the other medicines could help him. This may ease the problem.
@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
18 Sep 08
This is a very difficult situation. The important thing is how you feel about it. If you feel that you do not love him then you will only hurt yourself in the long run if you stay. You need to decide what is best for you. If he is lying about things to other people you will end up getting hurt by it. I do not know anything about the illness you say he has but does it really make him lie or he just using that as an excuse to explain his lies? Just because he says he loves you is no reason to stay if you do not love him. Love is two ways not one way. Besides if he really does love you why does he do things that hurt you. It sounds very strange to me.
• United States
19 Sep 08
Hello Sharral: Thank you for your kind and caring response about this. I agree with it, and like I responded to an earlier"Lotter", I think I just needed to hear it "said" out loud. I have decided to leave him and just need to get the resources together to move(I am about to start another job(my second job), so I need to hang around until I get the money together, get another vehicle, get the Uhaul truck and vehicle trailer and move my stuff and furbabies out, find a place to live and pay for it, and then leave. This was my first marriage, so I will be very careful if there is a next time. I may even go through a matchmaker to find the right guy if there is a next time. I do appreciate your input, it is wise and intelligent as well. I have thought those very things for months because I didn't want to act impulsively and unwisely. I hope to keep in touch my new Lotter friends and seek to help with things I know about. plrpetfrnd
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@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
19 Sep 08
It is always difficult to know when to stay and when to leave. In the end you need to do what is best for you. One of the biggest problems that women face is that they are often told they should try and make things work and they end up causing themselves a lot of misery. I used to help out in a refuge for women who were running away from abusive husbands and the catholic priests were always coming around and trying to convince the wives it was their duty to go back to their husbands. They did not seem to care that thee husbands abused their wives and children. All they cared about was that since they had married the guy they had to stay with them it was a sin for them to leave. Just another reason why I do not like the catholic church. Women need to look after themselves and do what is right for them.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
18 Sep 08
This is a really hard situation to be in. I feel torn for you, the best gift in life is to have someone you love who loves you, but if you don't KNOW how he truly feels because of a medical condition, then trust is at stake. If he cannot control his behavior or actions, and he doesn't even realize what he is doing, then I don't know if this relationship is good for both of you or bad. I have to tell you the fruit and veggie aversion is not uncommon, there are many many people, especially guys who are strictly meat and potatoes. This may not be healthy but it IS normal lol. The physical confrontations bother me. When a relationship degrades to the point where there is physical violence, there are other issues underlying, things that have nothing to do with the fighting. There may be hurt, resentment, feelings of insecurity, anger, and that's how it comes out. Your spouse is supposed to be your lover, friend, protector, supporter. When they are not those things, you have to examine whether your life is better with them in it or not. He may not be ABLE to be what you need because of his medical problems, and no matter how much you wish he could be what he isn't, he may never make it. I'm just not sure how long you can let something like this go, it is your life but you only get one. Your physical, emotional, and mental health, stability, and safety is important, so please make a decision in order to protect yourself. Love doesn't change somebody who has problems, no matter how much you want it to.
• United States
19 Sep 08
Hello Mommyboo: Thank you for your input, I agree with all you said and havejuggled these very issues myself!(Can't stop looking at these!)He loves the "Victim" role soooo much and is sooo much into the self pitying("oh woe is me") routine and yet at this very moment His dad(who was abusive to him early on in life,but they have come to an understanding now) is in the hospital and his condition is degrading to the point of coma(not there yet though) His mom is having to deal with this and with all the other stuff in the whole family as well. I have been in a "holding pattern" these last few months trying to come up with a way out(which I am about to start gaining from(a second job which is online and looking for a third job -part time) this way I can get a car and have the money to get things together to move out and leave this all behind if I choose to. I do not believe he every knew how to be a good husband(only his mom's idea of what a good husband is-which isn't- since she never had a true partner with his dad) I am not speaking ill of his dad while his dad is in trouble medically, I do happen to know a bit about what she has gone through from my husband and it certainly wasn't a loving partnership at all. My husband and I are NOT partners either. he lied about who he is to get me here and then when I tried to make the best out of the situation and tried counselling and even tried to force him back into church-it didn't work,again!-I had hoped that guilt would get to him, he is too far backslid to bother) We don't share anything in values so it is like living with an alien being. I have wanted to leave for a while, and now with his dad possibly dying(multiple strokes, heart problems(including diabetes), and generally his health is degrading, this puts another problem out there as he goes between saying he needs me and saying he'll be glad when I go. It affects my health to deal with him daily I have degraded as well which isn't great for my medical conditions(heart and diabetes,also) I had begun neglecting doing what I had planned to do about improving the health situation, it will take me getting away from him to be in a better situation with that. I have to stay until I get the money together to get my own car( I sacrificed my full size truck to travel here early cos he said he needed me to get here earlier than planned.that was stupid- I got it as soon as I got here.) I will be doing whatever it takes to get out of here, and hopefully he will not cause trouble I know his family will not cause trouble since they believe the lies he gossips about me to them. I am feeling sooo impatient right now but I have to be disciplined and work through this. Everything you have said I have already considered, It is correct and wise. I only need to get the resources together to get out of here and it is sooo hard to wait. I will do it however, I got here on my own(He couldn't help financially so I had to do everything,as usual.) I will stop feeling sorry for myself and just get to it.
@chabawel (329)
• Philippines
18 Sep 08
Is your husband taking any medication regarding his illness? How were you able to cope up with his on/off switch all these time? I feel sorry for you because it's as if you're living with somebody with two personality like Dr JEKYLL and MR HYDE. You have a medical condition yourself. If you stay in your marriage, will this help you? That's probably one thing you need to ask yourself. Will you be able to survive life just to be in your marriage? I can't help you, but YOU can help yourself by realizing what is your first priority in life. What's important worth saving - Is it YOU or your HUSBAND's whose having identity crisis? Do you have a close friend you can stay for a while you think things over about your marriage? You need space to think too. Just a suggestion. Hoping for the best for you and your husband.