Voting versus Not Voting

@starr4all (2863)
September 24, 2008 5:18pm CST
I've voted in every presidential election that I have been able to. I feel that if you don't vote you shouldn't complain about the situation. But, now I've sort of been rethinking my views on this. I found out my brother-in-law doesn't vote. It shocks me! But then again, with this election I actually thought about not voting. I don't like either candidate. So, both my husband and I thought about not voting because we are tired of voting the lesser of two evils. So, it made me wonder if there were other people out there that are not voting because of this. So, I think it's valid not voting if you don't like the candidates. But I still don't like those who just don't vote because they just don't. What do you feel about people who don't vote?
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8 responses
• Australia
25 Sep 08
In Australia, where i am from, voting is compulsory. I think this system works really well because it encourages all citizens to take responsibility to become informed, make decisions, and in the big picture results in a fairer outcome for the elections because all citizen's votes count.
• Australia
26 Sep 08
No offense taken. Technically you must register your name at the polling station on the day of the election, or else you get a fine. Of course there are exceptions eg you may be overseas and unable to reach an overseas consulate to vote, so which you are excempt. If you cannot vote on the day you are able to vote at pre-poll voting centres or by mail.
26 Sep 08
Thanks for not taking offense as none is intended. Is this considered a right in Australia? I mean, if you are punished (fined) for not doing what the government says we would consider that a statute not a right. I find that fascinating btw. What an idea. Of course it would never work here. Can you imagine what the U.S. would look like if you had to exercise your rights or be fined? Rofl. Take free speech for example. It is hard enough to get people to shut up and listen as it is now. :) I am no exception.
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26 Sep 08
How can voting be compulsory? Are you arrested if you don't vote? That seems kind of bizarre from an American perspective, no offense intended.
@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
24 Sep 08
Ok starr4all, do you realize what you said? If you don't vote you are doing exactly the same thing as someone who doesn't vote so what difference does it make then? That is really ridiculous! I don't like to hear that someone doesn't vote just because! But if you don't vote because you don't like either candidate and your husband doesn't vote then you are giving your votes to the wrong candidate. That is a very unintelligent reason!!! I don't like either candidate either! But I'll be damned if I'm going to let the wrong one get in whichever that one is and in this case I need to make sure that McCain doesn't get in so the Republicans don't stay in power and whether or not I want Obama doesn't matter because it I don't vote I'm giving the vote to McCain and so are you and your husband. You need to read your statement because it is plain stupid! I'm sorry, I don't mean to be offensive, but how can you say you don't like people who don't vote when you aren't voting either? Please starr think about it and read what you yourself wrote in your own discussion.
@starr4all (2863)
25 Sep 08
What I was trying to convey was that I can understand why someone would not vote at all if they don't like either candidate. I don't get it if you don't vote because you don't care. There is a difference. And I'm sorry but sometimes it really sucks if you have to vote for the lesser of two evils. We shouldn't have to vote between two bad people. As far as my husband and I, well, we had talked about it. We will be voting and it's NOT for Obama. So we'll end up voting for McCain. We don't like him but he's better than Obama. Oh, and remember, when people are DISCUSSING or DEBATING you negate your whole opinion when you resort to calling people stupid!
@starr4all (2863)
25 Sep 08
I'm sorry too. Sometimes I don't articulate myself very well. I'll be voting (probably) for McCain for selfish reasons. We are a military family. In the past the republicans have been the presidents who vote for raises for the military members. It's bad enough most military members are barely paid anything (we're eligible for WIC, welfare, and other programs for the poor). BUT, what we will do is each write down what our beliefs are and will choose the candidate that will fulfill the most. Some elections we don't agree but some we do.
@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
25 Sep 08
Your right, I apologize. The truth is I feel exactly the same as you do. I am so disgusted with the 2 choices I really don't want to vote for either of the 2. I don't like Obama much either. I just don't want to see the same thing happen for 4 more years. That really scares me. So I am sorry that I got so upset and I truly apologize. It's really out of character for me! I'm not even into politics.
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@jend80 (2071)
• United Kingdom
24 Sep 08
the problem with not voting is that you've got no chance of changing anything - if enough people voted for an independent candidate in the US election maybe, just maybe it might send the signal that people are sick of the two party system.
@starr4all (2863)
24 Sep 08
I've thought about this but without a massive amount of people voting independent, it feels like a wasted vote.
25 Sep 08
Have you looked at the independent candidates? I am an independent and frankly, as poor as the two main choices are I consider the independents worse. People who have no one to vote for should vote against whoever they really distrust. There are always issues that mean something to a voter. Like this election. I like McCain because, in part, it will weaken the extreme right wing of the republican party. Remember they opposed him. Show that a candidate more towards the center can win and you will stir debate in the GOP.
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@starr4all (2863)
25 Sep 08
To be honest I haven't really looked at the independents running. We had thought about it, but it felt like we would be throwing our votes away. I do wish that enough people would vote independent. Maybe it would be a wake up call to the dems and repubs that they need to get their sh*t together.
@GemmaR (8517)
25 Sep 08
I think that you should only vote if you have an opinion. If you don't really mind who wins, then you shouldn't waste your vote, as it will cancel someone else's out who actually has an opinion. If you do have an opinion though, you should definately vote, and don't leave it to pure chance that the person you want to win will win.
@fasttalker (2796)
• United States
25 Sep 08
I think this election will have a lower voter turnout for the reasons you stated. A lot of people are not really crazy about either of the candidates. But as you make the point if you don't vote you are taking away any right to have a voice. No matter how small you are taking away ANY chance of changing anything. It's a hard decision this year. And you are far from alone. There are still a lot of undecided voters.
@frogers (10)
25 Sep 08
I am registered to vote, although I have only done it once. I really don't follow politics at all and feel as if I would be voting unprepared. All I know is that over the years, I have seen no difference in my personal life based on the president-democrat or republican. There is so much that I disagree with as far as the US govt, such as passing the laws and tossing in unpopular issues etc. I believe the world's fate has already been written, so my vote really isn't going to change anything. Besides, when was the last time someone said "If only they had one more vote."
• United States
24 Sep 08
I kind of have the same feeling; I am 25 years old and this will be my second Presidential election, although I have participated in other elections in my state of California. I think very much like you; I wish more people could get invovled. That's why I think this election is special because no matter who your supporting, there are people who would normally never get involved voting for the President of the United States. I think that you should find a candidate who you can support, whether it's an independent or one of the two main candidates, You should let your voice be heard; I believe, maybe naively, that every vote for an independent shows that more and more people are tired of the normal games of the two-party system. Anyway you choose, or decide to go, good luck to you!
@mr_mlk (364)
25 Sep 08
I'm not American and I don't know the US political system. But I agree with the "people who don't vote have no right to complain" - unless the US is completely a two party system you must have other people to vote for, independents, the Green party and the like. Protest vote for one of them. They are not "wasted votes", they show the main parties that if the want your vote, this is the line to take. Vote for the group that supports the general goal you want to support, so (UK wise) if you support green issues, vote Green and ignore the socialist side, they have no chance of getting in and it the main goal the big two will look at taking on board.