How do you feel about the Obama/McCain debate?

@shamsta19 (3224)
United States
September 27, 2008 12:16pm CST
I watched the entire debate and I thought both candidates made some good points. I would have to say I think Obama was under attack the entire night, and John McCain avoided some issues opting out to attack Obama's inexperience. Obama responded accordingly and respectfully. They got pretty heated when debating the war in Iraq and our stance on Russia's recent military actions. Overall I'd score one for Obama. What'd you think?
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• United States
27 Sep 08
Hi! I watched the debate last night and I really liked it. Both McCain and Obama presented themselves well. Just my observation..I think McCain won the "economic" debate because he clearly showed that he has more experience than Obama. But on the "Iraq" issue, Obama clearly won because even though McCain showed his experience, it was not enough to absolve him of the clear mistakes/decisions that have been made basing on the outcome of the situation. Obama spoke so well, in an awesome rhetoric way, but could he lead? McCain, on the other hand, was redundant with stressing his many years of experience, even boasting about his past bills and his political friends, but then does his experience show his capability to become president? The debate is good because everyone was given a glimpse of what's to happen next. I can't wait for the next series of debates on other issues. I am not even eligible to vote here in the U.S. but I am very interested with the politics here.
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
28 Sep 08
I commend you here. I would say the same about the debate instead of just defending my party member. You were honest about your opinion of the debates outcome and identified specific victories for both candidates (and I agree with them). I can tell you are speaking from an unbiased opinion and it is very refreshing in this discussion thank you.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
27 Sep 08
They both did well. I keep seeing some seeing that Obama was disrespectful because he interupted McCain, I guess they missed the parts where McCain was doing the same thing to Obama. Maybe they were off getting their kool aide at the time and missed it. I didn't watch any channel after the debate, I think that those opinions are just really anything important.
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
28 Sep 08
Mind you the moderator himself said they were even on time so this is hogwash anyway!
@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
28 Sep 08
Both candidates interrupted each other at times, but that is the nature of a debate. For the most part, McCain was rude by constantly attacking Obama and overtalking him way more than Obama did him. And the post debate analysis again is totally ridiculous.
@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
28 Sep 08
Actually, Obama started it, even impatiently trying to drown out McCains quiet voice with his booming loud one. It was only when Obama's interruptions got out of hand that McCain became more aggressive and also louder. Yes, it's a debate, but a public debate lets the opposing party have its talk time without interjecting in order to prevent the delivery of the major points the opposition has to make. Being that Obama has extensive legal training I would have expected more respectful and restrained behavior from him.
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@starr4all (2863)
27 Sep 08
I think it was pretty even with McCain barely winning it. I think there were plenty of attacks on both sides. No one came out sparkling. And what they heck was obama agreeing with mccain so much? All I kept hearing was obama agreeing with john?
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@starr4all (2863)
28 Sep 08
Here's where I would disagree. I felt during the foreign policy part that Obama showed his lack of experience and his naivety. I don't think his plans are feasable and keep our country safe. I think he was strong with the economy. I do recall him mentioning Obama's name but calling him senator obama, not by his first name.
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
28 Sep 08
He did agree with him on several points but I took it as a sign of good character. McCain did nothing but tear Obama down and attacked everything he said. I felt Obama, on the other hand, came off as confident and made some VERY VALID points when discussing the war in Iraq and Russia and with our foreign relations policies too. Obama's readiness to agree with McCain was a sign of his willingness to work with any party member and have open talks. I was impressed. I was slightly impressed with Sen. McCain as well but he seemed very closed minded as well.
@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
28 Sep 08
Do you think his plans are not feasible because John McCain said so? Understand our current foreign policy procedures haven't been to good in the past. Not saying our system hasn't worked but it has failed us many times as well (War in Iraq, The whole Kosovo fiasco, the current crisis in the Middle East, what about North Korea?) I don't understand why the American public is so comfortable with our government. I guess I am not getting enough responses from people like myself or they just can't afford computers maybe. OUR GOVERNMENT HAS FAILED US TIME AND TIME AGAIN!!!! IT IS TIME FOR A CHANGE ANY CHANGE!!! We need a new wave of thinking in our government or a complete overthrow if that is not accomplished. This is why I feel Obama has so many supporters because people are fed up with living the way we are while all the wealth and power goes to the rich minority. Why would anyone support a government that poisons its people and lies to them? Why would we support a government that would perpetrate the LIE of 9/11, kill thousands of its own citizens to fuel an anti Muslim sentiment in the Middle East and start a bogus war for oil, that we are paying for!!! I just can't understand why we continue to do nothing and why anyone would support that!!
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
27 Sep 08
I did not watch the debate. I know that people seem to have their minds met up and those who favor McCain say that he is the winner and those who favor Obama say that he is the winner. In reference to that, I was reading Ann Coulter and it said that the reason for those mortgage failures that it seems everyone was blaming Bush for was that the house Democrats were angry that Fannie Mae was not giving mortgages based on race, they were not giving enough to the blacks and the poor people who would have been considered bad credit risks because they did not make enough money. So the Democrats forced these mortgage companies to offer sub prime loans and that is where the trouble started. It is a thought to ponder. Make sure the blame goes where it belongs.
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
28 Sep 08
And I ask what did Obama have to do with this? I thought he had no experience? Putting his parties mishaps on his shoulders is completely unfair. No man should be made to carry the burden of his party ( especially Obama) when historically all governing parties were not concerned with our people to begin with. It's not like Barack Obama put these programs into effect, he has never been a president. nor has America EVER had a president of color running this nation. If his party is to blame so be it, maybe he will change the face of his party as well. Point here is same as I stated above. You cannot argue that democrats did this, republicans did this with any validity. None of that has anything to do with Obama or McCain. I guess everyone has a different approach to politics. If we were voting for a particular party as a whole then ok but we are talking about two individuals. I don't hold McCain responsible for every mistake his party has made (and there are millions) same holds true for Obama. Those issues are meaningless when we are talking about the two of these candidates and their individual characters.
@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
28 Sep 08
And what have republicans done to help out in all this? It seems with all there involvement we are still in a crisis. My solution, pick a new party.
@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
28 Sep 08
Very true although Obama would love to cover up that part or he indeed doesn't understand it. It's the 'everybody should be able to own a home notion' that got us into this in the first place. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o
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• United States
27 Sep 08
I don't know if either of them won. And the American People certainly did NOT win. Obama was blaming the Bush admin from the opening two minutes. I should have done a drinking game, everytime Obama said "in the last eight years", I would have had a good buzz by the time it was over. Of course McCain couldn't really blame Obama for anything since he hasn't really done anything. Advantage to Obama.
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• United States
28 Sep 08
Although I also don't have a problem with him blaming Bush, I'd like to say I like your idea of how to put the drinking game to good use. It'd probably would've made for some wild drunken parties for people watching the debates back when Giuliani was still in the race since he famously included the words "terrorist" and "9/11" in every other sentence. I reckon it'd be good for us Americans and how we deal with politics, would you agree morethanamolehill? Get us to loosen up a bit. Probably laugh at things a bit more instead of constantly getting bent out of wack.
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• United States
28 Sep 08
"...the most corrupt administration in history.." I've heard that so many times I almost believe it. xP...What does Giuliani have to do with anything?... If you had been there you might bring it up every now and then too. The sad thing is how many people want to pretend like it never happened and that terrorists are just misunderstood "freedom fighters"
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
28 Sep 08
Obama did some blaming of the Bush administration but it was warranted as we have watched the most corrupt administration in history pull off eight years in the White House. He did well by not turning the debate into the blame game and when he did he spoke accurately and scored a minor victory when "attacking" our current president on the war in Iraq. Advantage Obama.
@lvaldean (1612)
• United States
28 Sep 08
It was interesting. I think they both fumbled a couple of points and both did well on a couple of points. Neither, in my opinion was leaps and bounds better than they other. I think overall Obama was better prepared and is a better speaker, thus won the debate. I don't think that he made any great strides toward winning new voters in this debate. There was nothing new.
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
2 Oct 08
Neither one had a solid answer on how the fix our current economic crisis, though they Identified there was a need to and blamed each others party for the mess. Let the mudslinging continue! Still this is the most interesting presidential run I have ever experienced in my lifetime!
@xParanoiax (6987)
• United States
27 Sep 08
I actually liked that debate (I don't normally). But I liked it, because, it seemed VERY tense to me. I personally want to see them have at it with eachother -- but I always thought politics was more exciting when politicians actually get a little more..aggressive. But then, I'm the kind of girl who likes watching Japanese politicians get into physical fights over things...non-American politics tend to be more interesting because of the different dynamics. But I digress. I watched mostly video bits afterwards on the internet, I was a bit busy during the actual debate and rarely have the patience to sit through an entire night of mainstream media anyway. It was very give-take. I haven't seen any polls and neither have I been able to look around for blogger reactions though, so I'm not really sure how much the debate helped either of them.
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@starr4all (2863)
28 Sep 08
I thought both candidates seem to hold back and not go at each other too much. I want to see them get heated. Sometimes the truth comes out then. Plus, it helps to see some passion with the issues. Shows they care about them. I don't watch the after shows either. Usually ridiculous, plus I don't pay attention to the polls. Usually they are pretty biased dependant on what channel is doing them.
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• United States
28 Sep 08
Well, normally I look online for the polls...'cause this way I can find out the demographic..and KNOWING the bias for particular media stations, helps me calculate real thoughts especially when contrasting it with blog reactions. *has waaay too much time on my hands sometimes, I guess* xD though...I suppose this is less of a science as it is an intuitive art for me O_O They were holding back, yeah. But I think they're -close- to snapping at eachother. Getting impassioned and actually fighting over something would be very revealing, I agree! Because anyone can lie when they're calm, or paint things prettier at least. To lose your cool and argue though, a real piece of yourself is on display for all to see. And when considering they're our two most likely bets for our next leader, we could use more of that for sure.
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
28 Sep 08
I saw Obama get a little heated after he was again attacked on his foreign policy issues and the War in Iraq. He then went on the offensive and attacked McCain and the Bush Administrations handling of the whole Middle East fiasco. I was proud of him as instead of outright just attacking the man (as McCain was doing) he brought up FACTS! Burned McCain with the truth (after which he put his head down) and I applauded him for saying these things. There were two instances during this debate were I feel Obama got the better of McCain and one where the tables were turned and McCain scored a "victory" in the same manner. This was near he end when McCain attacked Obama inexperience and naivety.
• United States
27 Sep 08
I very much enjoyed the debate & thought that Obama was the clear winner. I must say though that I am an ardent Obama supporter. McCain supporters will say that McCain did the better job. I respectfully disagree. McCain never looked at Obama which I thought was completely disrespectful. Obama made his points well & acted very professionally. McCain was attacking Obama which is typical Republican behavior. Where was the maverick last night? I'm looking forward to the VP debate. It should be very telling.
@starr4all (2863)
28 Sep 08
But you didn't mention obama's disrespect as well. He was rolling his eyes and making faces while mccain was talking. Like I said earlier, neither one of them came out sparkling. Both were disrespectful to each other.
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
28 Sep 08
As am I. And I am really looking forward to see what Gov. Palin has to say. Is she going to bring the GOP to glory or leave with a foot in her mouth? I am more interested in her politics that that of Joe Biden at this point. I am still pulling for team Obama/Biden regardless, I just want to know more about Ms Palin and this debate is the perfect opportunity to delve deeper into her psyche.
@aquarina (172)
• United States
27 Sep 08
I'm totally with you on that!
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@cream97 (29087)
• United States
28 Sep 08
I feel that they are all just ganging up on Obama.. It is like they just hate to see a black man win this election.. That is why all of the bickering is going on.. That is just my opinion... Oh, and by the way, I am from Sumter, South Carolina.. Not too far from where you are at! Welcome to myLot!
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
2 Oct 08
Hey got a few friends in Sumpter. Never been though. I wonder if America is ready for a Black President?
@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
27 Sep 08
The debate outcome was pretty even and I don't expect it to have swayed any voters. McCain may have lectured Obama at times, but Obama was disrespectfully interrupting McCain several times trying to drown out McCain with a louder voice. With this behavior and the grimaces he made he looked a lot like a schoolboy wanting to point the finger at the fellow student in order to avoid trouble. I also didn't like that Obama practically declared war on Pakistan. They are both out of touch with the true reason behind the economic crisis (sorry Obama, it wasn't all Bush's doing, it started under Clinton and the notion that everybody should be able to own a home no matter what the income). They also don't know how to solve this crisis, just how to try and prevent it in the future with steps they practically both agreed on. Overall I conclude that based on the we have no money due to the economy state of our nation neither candidate will be able to do much anyway. While I liked McCain's spending freeze, there is really not much to freeze. Obama on the other hand, when questioned by Lehrer (which by the way means teacher in German, lol), while admitting that he could not go with all of his programs wasn't ready to admit which ones would have to be cut (actually, all of them). I personally feel Obama is pretty inexperienced and has the I want it now attitude that so many people display nowadays. He doesn't understand that this is not possible in politics all the time. He also doesn't understand the Russians and their adoration of Putin. Same for the leader of Iran. Although he didn't state this in the debate he did state at another time that Iran is such a small country, they aren't a reason for concern. He will be like an elephant in the porcelain store on the international level of dealing with heads of states from other countries. But then again, he wouldn't be the first one, lol. It is still a decision between who'll screw up less. And in that regard my money is on McCain.
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
28 Sep 08
I am not willing to count Sen. Obama out because of his inexperience. In that respect neither of these men has any experience running the country. I cannot understand how people who live in the US are not fed up with our current governing regime. I invite any and every change to our government. If it is proven that Obama is biting off more than he can chew, and his policies are impossible to implement, at least he is making an attempt to correct the unjust practices our government is responsible for at the present time. Obama made an excellent point when he said the world view of America has changed. It is important that we revamp our reputation as a nation. We were once viewed as the greatest country in the world and in the last 4-8 years that is no longer popular opinion. I do understand Obama as a politician has less experience than most but the "experienced politicians" who are currently running our government have had their chance and blew it. Look at the economic crisis we are in now. Chalk that up to experience I guess.
@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
28 Sep 08
McCain being upfront and still never gave any real solution to our economic crisis or how he would attempt to solve it. Neither did Obama for that matter. I get a little thrown off when McCain supporters say Obama is blaming Bush, It Clinton's fault, the republicans did this, the democrats did this. Understand I am identifying by no party as either represents me anyway. These arguments about who's at fault are not at all swaying my opinion of anyone. I chose to stand by Sen Obama not because he is Democratic, but because I believe he represents the much needed change that is necessary in this country. Maybe he's not the right guy but all the others were wrong. Every president we've ever had lied!!!!! I cannot name one president who was perfect ( and half of them were corrupt) so these arguments to me are pointless. Obama could've been running with the Whig Party and I stand by him for who HE is not his political ties.
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@jonesy123 (3948)
• United States
28 Sep 08
You do know that the economic crisis started big time under Clinton and the notion that everybody should be able to own a home. That's how the subprime lending started. Obama pointing the finger at Bush and making him responsible is laughable and shows very well his lack of understanding of the current economic situation. He even wants to continue spending when there is no money to spend. Even if he pulls out all the troops out of Iraq the day that he takes office, he won't have money left over for his pet programs. If he pushes them through anyway then be prepared to pay much more in tax than what you are used to right now. Yeah, you'll get your income tax cut but he'll get you elsewhere. At least McCain is upfront about what needs to be done.
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@NrgDfenZ (1810)
• Belgium
27 Sep 08
I laughed my as- off :D McCain was too scared to look at Obama :D Have a nice day ^^
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
28 Sep 08
They were talking about that on the news today. McCain never looked at him or mentioned his name during the entire debate. What is that about?
• United States
27 Sep 08
u must have watched CNN afterwards
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
27 Sep 08
I watched them to but got fed up with their ridiculous analysis of the debate. I saw the real thing why listen to them?
• United States
27 Sep 08
wasnt the analysis afterwards?
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
28 Sep 08
Yea and I don't get the point of the above response. I felt the analysis was redundant and some of the conclusions they draw are totally off base.
@mom2eli (32)
• United States
28 Sep 08
I just have to say that I think the entire this is disgraceful. From someone who live in IL and knowing Chicago has THE most corrupt politicians in the US, thinking we, as an education nation, would even fathom electing Obama is scary. Anyone can Preach "change"..but really what are you going to change in 4 years? Nothing..b/c its not up to him to change anything..these are just empty promises..tell the people what we (our political party) thinks they want to hear and when they get in office... they do whatever they want anyway. If people really wanted change they would go with someone like Ralph Nader..who makes educated decisions based on the situation and not on whats best for the "party". Come on people..these candidates are sooo rehearsed, do we really believe any of it. Its all political jargon. Everyone stands on their platform stating...we need to give to the poor, well of course..do you think it would be in your best intrest to say..lets let the wealthy make more money and screw the poor. No, we need to support the concept of "Giving" b/c it sounds good, but do you think they really care when they go home to their multi million dollar homes? At the same time, the politicians accept the money from their "rich friends" to fund their campaign with the underhanded understanding of the "kick back or the favor". In the end..who gets screwed...the working class, the majority. We all work so we can continue to pay for the poor, never having the option of making it anywhere near the weathly class. Its always a catch 22. The working people make up the majority of the nation and we are too stupid to join together and make a stand..when are the politicians going to take care of us? Heres the answere...never. They want to keep us where we are b/c without the blue collar folks they would be screwed. We are the balance to the nation..we are not "poor enough" to get any help, but we are the ones taking care of the poor via taxes and heck..we are the ones that literally take care of them on the streets and in the hospitals/schools/grocery stores..ect..we as the working class see the blatan abuse of the system while we are out working hard to provide for our family. We are not rich enough to give thousands of dollars to the politicians to lean bills in our favor to better us. They know blue collar people will..always go to work b/c they HAVE TOO..and will never reach any status above that. And thats what they want. So really, whos taking CARE of the Poor??? Its US not them. They sit around with their rich friends enjoying what we all provide for THEM. We give them their status and their luxury. Politicians would not be able to give out that many favors, if the middle class cont. moving up and hence the poor did the same. Where would they be then..standing on a platform with no one to "give" too...or no way of making them sound chairtable or human in anyway thus denoting their normal reputation. Then whats left...just a typical, greedy, underhanded politician with no smoke to cover the mirrors! Look at how much money Obama has taken from Fannie May...and we as the middle class, the ones who will feel the hit the most, have to pay for it. Come on, they poor wont pay for it..they don't have it and they rich don't care b/c well...THEIR RICH. Its crap! Anyone can state a pro/con for either side but they are all the same..looking out for their political party and NOT "THE PEOPLE" The Candidates do and say....what they are told just to get into office. After that, GAME on..all bets are off!
@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
2 Oct 08
I do feel your angst. Is Obama really to blame for these woes or are you mad at the Democratic party in general? You are entitled to your opinion and I agree with you for the most part. It is time for a change in our political system. I don't know if Obama is going to bring forth that change, I just know McCain will not. I do believe Obama is going to invite some type of changes and I welcome whatever they are as our current system is FAILING MISERABLY!!! Maybe Barack Obama isn't the answer to every problem but his sincerity and conviction have convinced me of his character. Whether he puts his words into action is yet to be seen.
@ms1323 (259)
• United States
27 Sep 08
I'd say it went to Obama as well. McCain definitely did some sidestepping of the issues, choosing instead, to point out Obama's lack of political and military experience -- over and over again. I found his redundancy in this area quite offensive and believe it was an ineffective effort to distract from the questions being posed. If he wants to show himself as the better candidate then he needs to focus more on what he CAN do for the country and less on what Obama hasn't done. Furthermore, I found his demeanor towards Obama extremely condescending and disreseptful. Most of us are taught, as children, to look someone in the eye when speaking or being spoken to, yet I don't think I seen him look at Obama once. It does make me curious to know if he treats everyone that he feels superior towards in that fashion, and if so, exactly how much of the American public does he think he is better than?
@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
28 Sep 08
You are right on all points here. A lot of people are commenting on the fact that McCain never looked Obama in the eye and kept attacking him, avoiding the issues. Does he think he's better than him?
@starr4all (2863)
28 Sep 08
But don't forget, Obama kept trying to put Bush and Mccain together on everything. Agree on the not looking at him while talking. What is up with that?
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@shamsta19 (3224)
• United States
28 Sep 08
I didn't even notice that until they reported it the following day on the news. When do you not look someone in the eye? When you fear them, when you are lying, think about it.
• United States
28 Sep 08
I gave Obama an A and McCain a C because McCain was stumbling in that debate.
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