sweet but unrealistic?

@cher913 (25782)
Canada
October 27, 2008 9:47am CST
The show '17 and counting' is on The Learning Channel (or TLC) sometimes and it is about a family that has 17 kids and one on the way (isnt that enough already???) anyways, last night, the oldest son asked a girl to marry him and they decided that they wouldnt have s*x until they got married (which i did and truly believe in) but they also decided that they would not kiss until they got married too! they also go on dates with a chaperone as well...i think that is a little overboard or is it just me? i am a follower of Christ and my hubby and i were engaged for 2 years before we got married, we didnt do anything physical - we waited til our honeymoon, but sure, we kissed and we also didnt have a chaperone either. thoughts???
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7 responses
• United States
28 Oct 08
Not kissing until married? O my gosh. I don't think that is really dating if you just do things platonically. Where is the romance?
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@cbreeze (1205)
• United States
27 Oct 08
I couldn't see myself doing this and I am sure my children wouldn't put up with it, but I find it kind of sweet that this is what they chose to do. Maybe it's there way of ensuring they at no point become tempted before they are actually married. More power to them.
• United States
28 Oct 08
I agree completely. I honestly believe that if I hadn't been fooling around I wouldn't have married my first husband (who cheated on me and divorced me in 1 yr). If they want to have that many kids and they can afford it(which they can) then more power to them.
@cbreeze (1205)
• United States
28 Oct 08
It really disappoints me to see how people criticize this family for being so large. If they are not the one taking care of them, why should it bother them. The criticisms are usually twofold. People feel their is an issue with financing such a large family and they feel their is an issue with giving the children the one-on-one time they need for healthy development. But the solution to it is the same as the so called problem. This couple didn't have 17 children in 1 or 2 years. The children are various ages and are at various stages in their lives. Some of the children are old enough to work and contribute to the household. Being brought up in a loving home, it is only natural that older children have a vested interest in the younger children. I'm quite sure the older children spend quality time with their younger siblings allowing the parents to have one on one time with each child as they need it. I have six children and I am a single parent. All my children live at home with me. Three are adults and three are minors. The older children take a personal interest in what's going on with their younger siblings. They take it upon themselves to do spend time, have outings and even spend money on their younger siblings. Whenever something comes up and I can't be there because of commitments elsewhere, my older children always step up to the plate and fill in. Any time any of the kids, older or younger, have a milestone or an achievement in their lives we all come together and celebrate. Believe me, they don't feel lost in the crowd or feel as if they aren't in someway uniquely special. I'm sure this family operates the same way.
• United States
27 Oct 08
I say, to each his own. I would rather have more Duggars in the world than the ones who get pregnant at 16 years of age, get disease, go on welfare, etc.
• United States
28 Oct 08
Thank you for saying that.
• United States
3 Dec 08
In a normal situation, even a normal christian situation, I would agree with you. In this day and age with all the s*x on tv that teenagers with raging hormones would be tempted to at least kiss, no matter how good their initial intentions are. Notice I said in a normal situation. This man has a strong message not to do anything. This message is blatantly pushed in his face day in and day out. His 16 brothers and sisters!!! (plus the one on the way) He sees what promiscuity can get him, even if his parents weren't all that promiscuous. Living with all those kids in the house, having to help out, I can pretty much believe that he doesn't want any of that in his life for a long while. I'm not even sure if this guy will want to kiss on his wedding day, or even have s*x on the honeymoon lol.
• United States
27 Oct 08
I saw that show last night for the first time. I have no problem with their moral stance on dating and marriage if that's how they choose to conduct themselves. With so many unwanted children being born today and STD's running rampant it's actually a good idea. I was rather touched by the young man's thoughts about trust. He said something about, if he can commit and control himself with her then she would be able to trust him without question in the future. I probably would be more inclined to trust someone who was willing to share such restrictions out of love and respect. The problem I had with that family was the number of children! I have a huge problem with bringing that many children into an already overpopulated world! To me, that is immoral and incredibly short sighted. Especially since people from large families tend to have large families themselves. If estimated statistics hold true the world population will be 12 billion by 2042. If people think that the world is in a mess now just wait until food and clean water supplies start running low. We're willing to invade countries for oil now, how many wars would be fought over land just for a sustainable food and water supply? I have a big problem with any religion that holds to the biblical "be fruitful and multiply" mantra as meaning produce as many children as possible. Back when that was written infant mortality was incredibly high. Having 10 kids meant that maybe 2 or 3 might make it to adulthood. That still holds true in some parts of the world. But not in developed countries where MOST offspring will reach an age where they can reproduce as well. In today's world it's nothing short of selfish and irresponsible to the future of humanity to have that many children. Maybe it's a good thing they believe waiting until marriage to procreate is appropriate for them. The longer they wait the better as far as I'm concerned!
@Marie5656 (336)
• United States
27 Oct 08
Oh gosh, you mean the Duggers? Did she already have the 18th? Or is it still on the way? I know the in the Bible, we were instructed to "Be fruitful and multiply"..but I think that while it was an appropriate directive then...in order to populate the earth..now it just seems ridiculous. I mean, can you imagine how much it costs to run a household that size? And how much waste they generate every month? I know they shop frugally, and make many of their own clothes, or buy at thrift stores, but still. It seems now the older children are just there to be responsible for the younger. I attend church regularly, read my bible and all, and try to follow a good path. But, this is no longer the "old days". It is 2008. I think people can live a Christian lifestyle, while adapting it to today. And there are many familys who share the big family lifestyle. More power to them. I could never do it, that is for sure.
@cher913 (25782)
• Canada
27 Oct 08
no, not yet. not sure when she is due. i feel bad for the kids because i bet they get next to no 'one on one' time with the parents...
@Sillychick (3275)
• United States
27 Oct 08
Waaaayy overboard. I mean, there is nothing wrong with having time alone before you are married. That is how people get to know each other. How do they expect to be happy in a marriage if they have never spent any time alone together? Admirable to remain celibate until they are married, but the rest is not necessary. It's as if they have something to prove. Having a chaperon is like having someone to vouch for them in case no one believes they did not have $ex before they were married. That is not necessary, because they are the only ones who matter. Let others believe what they want.